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Title: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-14 13:59:31
Hi, it's me again with the buster sword...
I've finished the opening menu pic that someone (sorry, I forgot who) asked me to make for the PRP project. so here it is.

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8537/ff7openingmenubyyongkykmz0.th.jpg) (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff7openingmenubyyongkykmz0.jpg)

Note: Anyone who uses this pic may erase my deviantart link and my email, but please give me some credit by not redistributing it outside of this forum without my consent.

Thanks... input and critics are welcome.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Terid__K on 2008-06-14 17:13:58
Looks great, but why is the light on the floor inclined? That looks weird.



Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-14 17:14:50
Looks kinda like the light is shining onto a hill, but it is great work though. :-)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-14 17:19:09
That's because I cheated the light on the floor, it's supposed to be much more elongated, but due to the fact that I'm making this with the original art as reference, well, this is what I come up with. In the original art, the spotlight looks like that as well, so I cheated the lighting a bit to match that odd shaped light on the floor.

edit: btw, please give me some input as to how I can improve the look of the image. Do you think I should try and make my own version of lighting setup with basically the same angle as the original art rather than settling for that stupid looking light on the floor?

Or if you guys want to see it from a different angle or different position, drop me a line right here in this thread. Thanks for the comments.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-14 19:35:46
Yeah, change the light. You can do your own version instead of mimicking the funky original one.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-14 21:14:55
So, here it is, the revised version.

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8242/ff7openingmenubyyongkykwn1.th.jpg) (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff7openingmenubyyongkykwn1.jpg)

Personally though, since the position of the sword itself is not that interesting, it really doesn't temp the artistic part of my brain to work. So I myself don't really like this piece. Which means... again, give some input here guys. thanks in advance.

PS: here's the same buster sword in its WIP state which some of you might have seen.

(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1945/still05zp1.th.jpg) (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=still05zp1.jpg)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Mattie on 2008-06-14 23:13:29
In my opinion, the sword you say is in WIP has a great angle. Especiallly how it is stuck in the ground kinda like AC style. Maybe try that with the new version of the sword? Just a suggestion.

BTW nice work :)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-14 23:25:51
The WIP one is awesome. The other one looks awkward cause it's just floating in midair, not dug into the ground. lol

The WIP sword itself doesn't look at sharp at the other one, but overall the pic looks better.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: squeeble on 2008-06-15 01:39:32
Yeah I agree, use the style you used in the WIP one, just use the old buster sword, and use those lighting effects as well they're very nice.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-15 02:20:06
Great work dude! It's better than the one I did with my WIP  :roll:

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_StartScreen.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/StartScreen.jpg)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-15 07:00:52
well yours look much more faithful to the original art, apzfreak. I'll try and make some adjustments, and I'll post the result later. Thanks guys, keep sending comments :)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-15 09:21:51
The first picture is actually the way it looks in the game, tilted light and all. Something about it though doesn't quite seem right. I can't place it. It's a nice picture for sure, though.
In your last attempt, you should try to change the shadow, so that there is shadow underneath the tip of the blade. The lack of shadow there it what makes it appear to be floating.
Hopefully this made some sense.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-15 10:13:23
Hi
Nice work like i say in the last topic

but the if you really do want to make the menu screen. Then none of them here will do.

If you want to make one then you have to look at the buster.tex in the menu lgp
As there is a limit on the size and it needs to be in the right place


Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Borde on 2008-06-15 11:53:03
Are you sure there is a limit in the size ice_cold? I never tried, but since all the other textures can be pretty big I thought this one would be the same. But there is another problem: the color depth. You must use an 8-bit image.
By the way, I think the WIP one is the best. Great job.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Destiny on 2008-06-15 17:39:39
If i remember correctly buster.tex is 256x256 but the image is something like 95x95, but im not sure about it i dont have my pc right now.
Anyway just like Borde said, it is 256 colors (8 bit)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-15 21:39:20
woa, 256x256? That just won't do, man! Are you sure about that? making it into 256 color in itself is a real heart breaker to me. Now I have to scale it down to 256x256? How come it's in square pixel aspect ratio? Isn't it supposed to be in 4:3 (TV) ratio? Well anyway, here's the latest version... comments please  :-D

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2150/ff7openingmenubyyongkykso1.th.jpg) (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff7openingmenubyyongkykso1.jpg)

and the same pic in 256 color 8-bit format:

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/629/ff7openingmenubyyongkykef2.th.png) (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff7openingmenubyyongkykef2.png)

Hope you guys like it  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-15 22:01:14
To be fair, the 8-bit one still looks a hell of a lot better than the original game one.
I like all of your different versions, although I do tend to like the ones where the sword actually appears to be in the ground and not just floating there.
Good work though. :-)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-15 22:02:36
Flip the sword so it's edge is down, and it's pretty much perfect. If you want perfectly like the original, the blade is lower in the pic just a hair so that New and Continue are centered in the screen just above the Buster Sword. Too bad the engine can't handle your original  :oops: That looks really good.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Synergy Blades on 2008-06-15 22:22:40
I don't know what you're using to downgrade to 8-bit, but Photoshop does the job nicely converting to an indexed image using 100% diffusion, only being a tiny bit obvious on the gradations of the light glow:

GIF image (click) (http://www.alaunus.com/sb/yongkykso1.gif)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Prince Lex on 2008-06-15 22:26:39
I love the last version you posted. How do you put that in-game?

Sorry if thats a stupid question!
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-16 01:43:17
I would be willing to convert for game use!
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-16 03:03:25
To synergy, since it's an old windows game, I thought that I needed to go with the windows system standard. If not then yes, photoshop does have a great indexed preset for 256 color. Localed, if I'm not mistaken. So, you guys like this one eh? Apz freak, let me turn the edge side down, then please do convert it for game use. Thanks in advance. Be back in a jiff.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-16 03:07:35
I personally like this one more: http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=still05zp1.jpg
I like how the sword is dug into the ground.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-16 03:14:52
Alrighty, I'll see what I can do. BTW, how big does it need to be? I'm using the hires patch so I thought that for the sake of crispness of the picture I needed to render it @ 1280*1024. So how big is it supposed to be? I'll still post the hires along with the 256 color for the next version and since some of you wants to use it, I'll make the text smaller...
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-16 04:18:15
I actually don't think the hi-res patch makes a difference on the title screen. My guess is that if you insert too large of a picture, you'll simply only see one corner of it, and the rest will be off screen. I hope I'm mistaken though.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-16 04:19:50
Well, here it is. Comments are still welcome.

(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8600/ff7openingmenubyyongkykfa0.th.jpg) (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff7openingmenubyyongkykfa0.jpg)

256 @720x486
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2849/ff7openingmenubyyongkykvu4.th.png) (http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff7openingmenubyyongkykvu4.png)

And I had this strange vision in which I added Sephiroth's masamune sword behind this one and make them both create an X mark. I know it's cheesy, but hey, if it's done right, it can look very good.

Anyways, if you guys think this is good enough, then, apz freak would you please do your magic? thanks guys...
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-16 04:22:54
Perfection.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-16 04:47:58
Perfect!
And try the masamune thing. Sounds cool.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-16 06:37:54
aww... thanks a lot you guys... I'll make the model first, should be easy since it's a pretty normal sword.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-16 06:56:38
That still not right sadly as i as i said before look at the buster file i will upload it today so you can use it

Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-16 08:50:34
the formatting you mean, or the composition? please do post it here as I don't really know how to extract the .p files. How about the 256 color one? I know it's a tad bit big, since most files from ported games like this one is at 320x240 or something.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-16 11:08:11
oK here we are there the full size and where the sword needs to-be
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/theicefox/buster.jpg)

Looks small right

Like i said there are limits
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-16 12:16:48
Quote from: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-16 11:08:11
Like i said there are limits

After seeing that picture, the only thing I can say is "No sh*t". That's a pretty huge limit haha.

Where's TheSainT when you need him to work more high resolution magic?
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-16 13:06:02
Woa.. are you sure about this? coz as far I know, the sword is supposed to be on the bottom right side of the screen. apz freak where are you man... I need your help here.  :-D
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Destiny on 2008-06-16 19:10:40
i suggest to use irfanview to resize and to scale down the bits. Anyway i said buster.tex is 256x256 but you must scale your image to 95x95 and then paste it in a black blank new page 256x256
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-17 08:39:56
There are  two images like Ice cold informed us of the original size of the picture...
The first one like created By Youngkykun, and the second with more blue flash of light like the original stuff from the SquareSoft's team.

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5634/buestersworddemotn8.jpg)(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3428/buestersworddemoxe8.jpg)
Created by : Yongkykun
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-17 15:04:16
Gee... thanks Theclad! So how do I put it into the game?

Btw, the name is Yongky, not yougky hehehee.. minor mistake.  :wink:
Title: Release NEW TITLE 0.50
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-17 18:26:34
===RELEASE 0.50===
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7237/testou2.th.png) (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testou2.png)


I Have Succeed to put in the game, i'm happy because it's my first work in the world of mod in FINAL FANTASY VII.

So this is the LPG to put at  [letter]:/program files/Square Soft,inc/Final Fantasy VII/data/menu

To Download : http://rapidshare.com/files/123142580/Menu_US_LGP.zip.html
==============
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-17 18:36:52
Wooo hoooo!!!! Thanks man!

If you were a girl and lives in Indonesia, I'd come and kiss ya.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-17 18:38:19
Sorry I will just be a 18 years old man in August and I Live in France !  :lol:

But It's your work ! Congratulation ! :)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-17 18:45:38
Em.. I think it still need to be a little more to the right...

like so:

(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7673/testou3rc3.th.jpg) (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testou3rc3.jpg)


Is it possible?

Thx
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-17 20:57:57
Everything are possible  :mrgreen:

I'm just sad, because we have just LOST versus Italia ...  :cry:


In my next POST I Will give you a link for download ! :)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-17 21:14:44
 :-( I think the WIP version of the sword looks better.
Maybe you will make 2 versions of title screen? :? :-)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-17 22:14:18

===RELEASE 0.60===
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5876/buestersworddemong5.th.jpg) (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=buestersworddemong5.jpg)


The Second version release, i have some difficulty due to something like a BLACK SCREEN on the Left and on the right on the Title MENU.

So this is the LPG "menu_US" to put at  [letter]:/program files/Square Soft,inc/Final Fantasy VII/data/menu

To Download : http://rapidshare.com/files/123189756/Menu_US_LGP.zip.html
==============
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-17 23:06:55
Now, your new mission in life: convert your buster sword into a model for use on the NPC-RP field model and in battle!  :lol:

Just kidding man, but if you did that I'd be psyched. It's more work to do though so it's up to you whether it's worth the time.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-18 03:18:24
To squallff8, the WIP is not possible since it has a soft volumetric light.

Actually, Tsetra, it's much easier than you thought. Could have done it within minutes. But that is something that apz freak has already done and he did a very good job at it plus he published it here: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7451.0
So, I'm not going to make a lores version in respect of apz freak's work.  :-) I mean, why bother making something that someone else has already done a good job at?

Theclad, thanks for the effort. Looks like it's pretty hard after all  :-P It still needs to be a little more to the right. Just a little bit.  :-P
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-18 09:02:16
If I move a little bit the Buster Sword to the right, a party of the sword will be Hiding !
I'm so sorry, but it's just my first work and i'm not accustom to this file !
I hope I will find a solution ! :)
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-18 17:37:22
don't be sorry, I apologize if I make you feel bad.. take your time. I'm sure the solution will present itself in time.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-18 20:43:56
Well he beat me to the punch! But I only have one computer and my girlfriend's been hogging it lately! :roll:
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-19 07:15:37
Hi it nice that you got the sword done
 but i think you can post LGP files of the game here. You have to post the file by it self.
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-21 16:33:50
The clad? You're still working on the patch? Or are you having some difficulty? How can I help?
Title: Re: New title menu pic for PRP project for those who are interested
Post by: ModHelp on 2008-11-04 22:50:24
can someone make me a title screen using this pic plz

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/topballer95/CloudundZack.jpg