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Title: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-17 23:33:23
Well, With a Lot of time and hard effort, i managed to create This:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/Qhimm-1.png)
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/QhimmII-1.png)
Within the next couple of days, i should have some screenshots of ingame :D

However, i am ACTUALLY considering to release this as a patch to people. Granted, it's no-where near as good as what it was inspired by, but i just had to show anyone who may click onto this :D I'm pretty sure it would make people happy  :wink:

Anyway, feedback is appreciated :D and comments on whether to release it or not..?

The thread which started my project:
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7451.0

Thanks a LOT apz freak! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-11-18 01:29:47
yes please release it! so very nice! i would love to have this so much! ^^D

hey btw, are you only planning this remodel for cloud?
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-18 17:00:44
well, i'll see how it goes after i import it. if it all works perfectly, theres no reson i shouldnt start on sephiroth at some point :D and i guess that goes for Most FF7 models availaible in KH2 :D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-11-19 01:11:04
haha soo nice man..looks like soo much work to do..sigh..wish i could help you with the modelings but i can't 'cause I'm a totally noob at that..good luck with this though..hope you could really release it by then..many people would be soo much happy! ^^D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-11-19 10:26:11
If your taking models from KH2, I would advise against a release.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-19 16:23:45
You're right, and i agree, however, i dont want everyone to have to go through what i went through :/
I mean it took me FOREVER to make this, since i was overcome with wanting apz' model :P and i dread to think of what people do if they Dont have the capabilities to make their own :/ at least they can settle for a "second-best"
maybe i'm the one who cares...
...but i dont think so. so for now, illegal or not, i think i'm going to release it :wink:
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-11-19 17:59:34
If you truly want to help people, wouldn't it be better to release a tutorial written by yourself?
So that anyone who wants it so badly will be able to make it themselves instead of relying on others to do the work for them.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: NameSpoofer on 2008-11-19 18:13:15
if he really wants to release then please let him release it, why are you trying to prevent him?
most people are gamers not programmers, they dont even know what char.lgp is.

Btw neocloudstrife, im having trouble with the khdump.exe. I drag the kh.iso and the kingdom.idx into the khdump.exe, then it starts dumping and shows the list of mdls files dumped but after its done the khdump.exe closed and i cant seem to find the mdls files anywhere. Do you know what the problem is? Should I instead use 3d ripper and a ps2 emulator to rip the models?
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-19 18:53:00
If you truly want to help people, wouldn't it be better to release a tutorial written by yourself?
So that anyone who wants it so badly will be able to make it themselves instead of relying on others to do the work for them.
possibly, possibly... however, pirating $200+ 3D modelling software, which is essentially what you need to do (not saying i did that  :wink:), is slightly more illegal than a few dissasembled models... i dont know...
if he really wants to release then please let him release it, why are you trying to prevent him?
most people are gamers not programmers, they dont even know what char.lgp is.

Btw neocloudstrife, im having trouble with the khdump.exe. I drag the kh.iso and the kingdom.idx into the khdump.exe, then it starts dumping and shows the list of mdls files dumped but after its done the khdump.exe closed and i cant seem to find the mdls files anywhere. Do you know what the problem is? Should I instead use 3d ripper and a ps2 emulator to rip the models?
there should be a folder somewhere. if teh thing came up dumoing the models, search for a folder nearby named "Dump_kh2".
PCSX2 currently does not support 3dripperDX, you get a 2D mess :/
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-11-20 05:47:38
You ought to modify it just a little so his top spike stands a bit taller. Maybe not necessarily as high as in the original battle model, but close. Also if you're looking for nitpicking, his lower body, where the bottom half of his belt is, seems too small. His upperbody just suddenly expands outwards and looks strange. His suspenders seem a bit off as well.
Minor nitpicking  :-) Looks really good, much better than anything I could ever pull off with my lack of 1337 skillz.

If you truly want to help people, wouldn't it be better to release a tutorial written by yourself?
So that anyone who wants it so badly will be able to make it themselves instead of relying on others to do the work for them.

Let's take down FF7Music and add a tutorial for coding it in C++ instead, and let's take down the FF7PRP too and make a tutorial as well. Let's also forget about FF7Voice and tell people how to alter their voice so they can make their own voice over patches. YAMP, High-Res patch, and avatar patches need to go too. The patch that alters spell names should go as well because the names are content from other games.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-11-20 12:22:20
If you truly want to help people, wouldn't it be better to release a tutorial written by yourself?
So that anyone who wants it so badly will be able to make it themselves instead of relying on others to do the work for them.

Let's take down FF7Music and add a tutorial for coding it in C++ instead, and let's take down the FF7PRP too and make a tutorial as well. Let's also forget about FF7Voice and tell people how to alter their voice so they can make their own voice over patches. YAMP, High-Res patch, and avatar patches need to go too. The patch that alters spell names should go as well because the names are content from other games.

My two pennies worth.  I meant ripping models from KH, NOT original creations.  If he wants to release them, he can.  if you want to take what I say the wrong way, I couldn't give a toss. :-)
EDIT: And also, what's giving a guide to ripping models got to do with coding?  Jesus H.  Simple post and all of a sudden you have an army of one trying to make you look like a dumb ass.

Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-20 16:21:14
You ought to modify it just a little so his top spike stands a bit taller. Maybe not necessarily as high as in the original battle model, but close. Also if you're looking for nitpicking, his lower body, where the bottom half of his belt is, seems too small. His upperbody just suddenly expands outwards and looks strange. His suspenders seem a bit off as well.
Minor nitpicking  :-) Looks really good, much better than anything I could ever pull off with my lack of 1337 skillz.

thanks for the suggestions :D
should have some gameplay pics up later today or tomorrow.

EDIT: I need someone who can Get a Tex File of my textures for me if i send them it. for some reason, whenever i do it, it always is untextured ingame. kind of annoying. i wonder how apz did it...
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-11-21 01:52:00
If you truly want to help people, wouldn't it be better to release a tutorial written by yourself?
So that anyone who wants it so badly will be able to make it themselves instead of relying on others to do the work for them.

Let's take down FF7Music and add a tutorial for coding it in C++ instead, and let's take down the FF7PRP too and make a tutorial as well. Let's also forget about FF7Voice and tell people how to alter their voice so they can make their own voice over patches. YAMP, High-Res patch, and avatar patches need to go too. The patch that alters spell names should go as well because the names are content from other games.

My two pennies worth.  I meant ripping models from KH, NOT original creations.  If he wants to release them, he can.  if you want to take what I say the wrong way, I couldn't give a toss. :-)
EDIT: And also, what's giving a guide to ripping models got to do with coding?  Jesus H.  Simple post and all of a sudden you have an army of one trying to make you look like a dumb ass.



Well you know what they say, it's not what you say, but how you say it. So yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who took that the wrong way. By your response you clearly "give a toss", but if I mistook your statement I apologize for that.
But in a lot of ways, this mod wouldn't be much different from the ones I mentioned, even considering the big KH ripping scare. Cause if you want to get REALLY technical, modifying the game at all is illegal. If they REALLY wanted to, they could come down on every project here. Even a program like FF7Music, which doesn't alter the game at all, well I'm pretty sure most people are playing it with FF7 PSFs they downloaded off the internet rather than ripping them by themselves.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-11-21 07:14:26
But with all the other mods, you don't get Squeenix AND Disney coming down on you. :-)
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-11-22 11:34:48
hmmm..yeah..disney..so what's your thought neocloud? still going' for a release? :|
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-22 20:50:28
Yes, i believe so.

Having a few problems with textures at the moment, that and im lazy, so heres a work in progress kimera screenshot:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/cloudlatest-1.png)
As you can see, the only thing left to do is the Feet :D

By the way, would it interest anyone if i Continued to Upgrade Another little project of mine that appears in this picture?:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/HONOURDREAMSZACKRENDERSIG.png)
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-11-23 01:35:32
oh yeah..looks very nice as expected..hahaha :evil:
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: One-Winged Angel on 2008-11-23 12:21:21
Hi there, I recently signed up here, but I have been keeping a eye on this, it looks ossum, I hope you do release.

I'm good on Maya, so If you need any assistance, I'm happy to help.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: DarkVenomandCarnage on 2008-11-23 16:34:50
Cool!!! [bandage buster could be the ultima weapon!, and if you have KH1, Cloud's got a nice cape for Vincent]
Looking foward to in-game screenies! :-D [Don't have the PC edition :-( but PSX is a nice version!]
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-11-23 23:42:59
if you dont have the pc version than im sorry to say that this is not for you :-)
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: DarkVenomandCarnage on 2008-11-24 01:29:16
I know, but I love eyecandy! :lol:
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-01 19:47:40
Although this project has been overshadowed tremendously by APZ's new cloud model, i am going to continue. i haven't updated much, since i have been busy and what little time i do have has been given to fixing up a few little flaws with my cloud.

More is on the way!
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-12-01 20:05:34
I wouldn't say that at all, I'm still looking forward to it and your drive to remodel is encouraging. Besides, there's nothing wrong with choices.

Regarding your other topic, have you seen the "FFVII-2" Ultima Weapon by TheTong? That's a really good render - true to the original and very, very attractive. I've been thinking of trying to recreate that myself as a foray into modelling for the game.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-01 20:19:12
You're right, that is good :D

hehe im warming to FF7 modding :D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Enoehttonmi on 2008-12-03 18:51:39
O...M...G, This is awesome! If you will release it, I **WILL** use it. :evil:
Will this model work on game without The SaiNt's High Res?

Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-03 19:30:31
I'm Pretty sure it'll work with whatever patches and whatnot you have on  :wink:

Also, I've Made slight improvements to cloud, and i'm going to make a Zack Model as well for a "Zack Patch" type thing :D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Jonnylossus on 2008-12-03 19:35:01
Why don't you change the uniform too? I would like to see a bigger protector (or even a shield) on cloud. :P
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-03 19:42:49
Because I want to make The Model(s) so that they are true to the FF7 storyline, like how Square-Enix would make them now, if they sucked at making 3D models like me :P

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IWI7peXGAi0&fmt=18
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=thsnDqQu0mQ&fmt=18

If i did it right (i didnt, lol), my cloud should look EXACTLY like the cloud in those :D

sort of...true to the original, while being more realistic, Crisis core style.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Jonnylossus on 2008-12-03 19:56:01
Ah, ok.. Yeah, it looks nice, but i guess the old FF7 is the best. I am using the better NPC patch atm though.^^

Btw, did you see this video?

FF VII-2 by Tong...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wpgQ_Zzj7AQ (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wpgQ_Zzj7AQ)


 :-o
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-08 21:54:59
Ok, this is where i need as much help as possible.

im roundabout ready to import cloud into kimera properly. so i need some last feedback before i go ahead with its, so its as good as possible:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/Qhimm-1.png)
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/QhimmII-1.png)
please, comments, constructive criticism, anything?

 :lol: :-D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-12-09 02:26:23
hmm..i think the his back need a little more..umm..'beefing up'?..add more humps to him lol! but nice work cloud..i say go for it! ^^D
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Alkor on 2008-12-09 07:42:13
Remake movie from "FF7 remake for PS3"
Orig u can see here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=thsnDqQu0mQ
Old news can read here:
1) http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614859p1.html
2) http://ps3.ign.com/articles/709/709775p1.html
3) http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q2-2006/052706a.html
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: Enoehttonmi on 2008-12-09 12:53:33
I think that his left leg is quite longer than his right leg, but maybe it's because of his pose. The belt in the first model has black front :?. Will you also put this model on the field (outside battle)? Also, you are going to remake other main characters aren't you? If yes then I cannot wait to see a new Sephy! :wink: Anyway, good job!
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-09 15:44:22
Yes, im pretty sure  the leg thing is his pose, i'll double check though. the Black square on the belt is an error that only 3DSmax can fix, and i only use that when importing into FF7 :P
its a remnant from an old belt he used to have.

and at polaris, what do you mean by "beefing up"? i think i know what you mean...like making the bottom half stick out a bit more?

anyway, in a perfect world, i plan to make a battle and field model for every version of cloud. Then im gonna remodel it a bit and do this for a "zack patch" kinda thing too. then im gonna use that zack in the regular cloud story, and use the cloud in the zack story. after that, i'll move on to sephy, if i can.

good comments, keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: JordieBo on 2008-12-09 18:22:57
RELEASE IT!
If you do, i WILL have sex with you.
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-09 18:47:25
XDD
that comment made me really laugh...in a disturbing kinda way :P
anyway, i'll see how it goes. if it works out all nice and lovely then i guess i will :D

EDIT: Here, have a rather arty preview of zack :D

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/ZACKWIP.png)
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: polaris_027 on 2008-12-09 23:49:31
and at polaris, what do you mean by "beefing up"? i think i know what you mean...like making the bottom half stick out a bit more?

Yup! his back's too flat..gotta pump that ass man..haha

this looks very promising cloud..i like you..if you were just a hot girl...kaka'ntute'n k'ta :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-10 14:52:26
:D duely noted :P
anyway, disregard the spelling error in the first picture, lol.

BTW, chibi field models are gonna be quite hard., what with blinking and all...i need a new texture that KH2 cant get me. so a remake by me wont look too great...

also, regarding chibi field models, hands open, or closed???

apz freak has both types and i dont know which one...
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: Enoehttonmi on 2008-12-10 15:18:23
Chibi models? How about field models like in NPC style...But I like Chibi too!
Hand's closed...IMO

BTW
Have you seen this..  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UHxjbWEDWWk   :lol:
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: Jonnylossus on 2008-12-10 15:34:33
Chibi models? How about field models like in NPC style...But I like Chibi too!
Hand's closed...IMO

BTW
Have you seen this..  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UHxjbWEDWWk   :lol:

Quote
Mom laughs as kid almost dies

Yeah, it is funny to see people in fear of death.. :roll:

(that was sarcasm, of course).

She was grabbing the edges of the rollercoaster (?), because she didn't want to fell off.. And that's funny? Not really.

What do you mean with field models in NPC style? They are looking like the NPCs, or am i wrong?
Title: Re: Cloud Strife FF7 PC Re-model: Crisis Core Secret Ending Style [UPDATE]
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-12-10 15:52:25
He meant as in the NPC patch...but i'm not really fond of them. they're too unproportionate to how the game was supposed to be and too...tall :/ i'll consider it, however.
also, dont get offtopic here guys. you can post that in a different area, i'm sure. but this thread? kinda odd, considering this thread has nothing to do with that.

anyway i'll keep going with the models :D

EDIT: Chibi model almost done :D

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/CloudChibi.png)
Credit goes to Apz freak once again for the face. i...dont have one yet :P