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Title: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: Bluegrass79 on 2009-01-07 21:44:03
The problem I have is that ff7 starts out playing good. After about 15 minutes you notice the game is running Little slow. After 25 minutes you notice that everything is slowing including going into your menu. I notice battles getting slower and slower. Eventually around 30 minutes or so of playtime your game will freeze at any moment including during battle, when picking moves, and/or when doing a move. It will freeze also during conversation moments or just while your running around on the world map. The freeze doesn't STOP THE MUSIC OR SOUND EFFECTS of you picking your spells or such NOISES. The game seems to actually still be running about 5-7 seconds after the screen freeze but does eventually become unresponsive.  This bug has been tested to be active with ff 1.02 straight up with no mods or with any of the mods working. I first thought one of the mods to the game was causing the problem so I ran it clean and still came up freezing after 30 minutes of play. I can leave the game on the MENU screen for 30 minutes or so and not do a thing and I will still get the screen freeze.

The biggest problem is 80% of the time this leaves my PC unresponsive and I have to shutoff the PC. I'm using a geforce 7900, dell 710 PC  WITH A REAL COPY OF THE GAME.                Anybody know why this game wont run for more than 30 minutes without freeze time?
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: dziugo on 2009-01-07 23:59:11
Try the 92.91 forceware drivers. That, or use software mode.
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: Bluegrass79 on 2009-01-08 09:00:34
the old drivers did the trick. no more freezing! thanks man :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: dziugo on 2009-01-08 11:54:36
All credits go to Seifer Almasy (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7956.msg95831#msg95831). He got into trouble of finding the working solution (and correct drivers).
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: Bluegrass79 on 2009-01-08 16:40:11
Wow thats wild! Man I'm glad I mentioned my card version. Same exact problem for the exact card. Well anyway I now have every mod you can think of running smooth as silk. I paid 85 dollars for this game and the strat guide so I'm thankfull that I can play through without interuption. Thanks again
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: Terid__K on 2009-01-09 00:09:55
All credits go to Seifer Almasy (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7956.msg95831#msg95831). He got into trouble of finding the working solution (and correct drivers).

Excuse me?

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7317.msg89618#msg89618 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7317.msg89618#msg89618)

I answered this same issue multiple times before. And Seifer_Almasy is also very wrong about the issue. Any driver newer than 163.75 will cause some sort of memory leak with FF7 AND FF8. You can use any driver in that range that it will work just fine (for older cards, that is. Newer cards don't seem to have this problem.).

Topic creator, you should use the search button next time.


Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: dziugo on 2009-01-09 01:02:44
Obviously I missed your posts, the same thing you did for Seifer's thread. And while I knew what I was looking for, I missed yours one more time when looking for a solution. Won't happen again on this specific issue, can promise you that.
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: Terid__K on 2009-01-09 01:59:38
I just had to correct you, since your solution wasn't entirely accurate. Sorry if I sounded rude or anything.

92.91 is a beta driver, and it seems to me that Seifer_Almasy only tested with that driver and immediatly jumped to conclusions. This issue has been further looked into here: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7404.msg90091#msg90091 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7404.msg90091#msg90091)

As you can see, the conclusion is that something was added in the 169.21 drivers that caused this memory leak problem with GeForce 7 series or earlier cards. I have no idea what it was though. As far as I know, the problem still remains even on the newest drivers.

But the bottom line is that the newer drivers are meant for Next-Gen cards. I see no reason to use a driver newer than 163.75 (I use these myself. Very stable) if you have a GeForce 7 series or worse card. It's not like those cards are able to handle Next-Gen games anyways.

Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: dziugo on 2009-01-09 15:13:10
Definitely worth remembering. On a side note, these types of fixes should go directly into The Great FAQ. There were some really useful "discoveries" since the last update. If there was someone to revise it, and the only thing that mod would have to do is to sticky it, it wouldn't take more than a month (:P) to get a fresh new FAQ. Most people won't read it, but it's for those who actually want to find a solution, not just ask questions and wait for an answer.
Title: Re: 30 minute ff7 freeze
Post by: Bluegrass79 on 2009-01-09 15:56:23
new january 8th drivers are out. 181.20.  Hopefully a fix. Im about to try it out. Wish me luck

UPDATE:   still freezes using 181.20 certified and also freezes using 185.20 beta.