The Legend Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The only reason Zelda gets number 1 over FF7 is because of Nintendo fanboys.
I take it all with a pinch of salt, I know which is the better game. I dont need some poxy fanboy infested site to tell me.
I take it all with a pinch of salt, I know which is the better game. I dont need some poxy fanboy infested site to tell me.
Just curious; do you own a mirror?
If one looks at it objectionally, there can be no doubt that FF 7,8,9 and 10 are all better than ocarina of time, and so is MGS1 and 2.there is no way to look at that objectionally.
QuoteIf one looks at it objectionally, there can be no doubt that FF 7,8,9 and 10 are all better than ocarina of time, and so is MGS1 and 2.there is no way to look at that objectionally.
comparing different classes of games made for different systems is apples-to-oranges type of comparison. it's impossible to be fair, and everybody has his own biased opinion.
Graphics, in which case FF7 has to win since that is a fact and a demonstratable scientific fact at that.that would depend on the capabilities of the hardware game is running on. i personally find ff9 and vagrant story much superior, as far as visuals are concerned on psx, for example.
I take it all with a pinch of salt, I know which is the better game. I dont need some poxy fanboy infested site to tell me.
Just curious; do you own a mirror?
If I was a fanboy I wouldnt be highly critical of the series since the enix merger, nor would I see faults in FF7 and seek to correct them. An FF7 fanboy is someone who sees no problem with the game and actually tries to stop people criticising it. I have criticised FF7 translation and certain aspects of the storyline. I have also criticised some of its graphics but that is understandable given the budget at the time. I don't see FF7 as a perfect game, but I do see it as the greatest. I am far from a fanboy. Sadly you are a wind up ;) and not a very good one.
Graphics, in which case FF7 has to win since that is a fact and a demonstratable scientific fact at that.
You can judge a game base don music, and although this is open to more speculation, it isn't impossible to judge melody and compare it. The same way you can say Mozart was a genius and it is widely accepted.
You can judge a game based on side quests and you can count that number and again FF7 comes out on top.
You can judge a game based on how long it is and again FF7 comes out on top.
You can jusge a game based on storyline and length and again FF7 comes out on top.
These aren't opinions for the most part, they are documentable, observable facts.
To disagree with the above is to simply throw out the facts because they don't suit you.
QuoteGraphics, in which case FF7 has to win since that is a fact and a demonstratable scientific fact at that.that would depend on the capabilities of the hardware game is running on. i personally find ff9 and vagrant story much superior, as far as visuals are concerned on psx, for example.
i don't see any "demonstratable scientific evidence" to ff7 superiority over all other games.
comparing games across consoles, just like you said with ff7-ff10, is difficult. personally i find it almost impossible.
Ok, great spot to jump in. obesebear, thank you. :-D I support your "fanboy" comment greatly!
Seifer, while I disagree and hate almost everything you are, I agree with you here almost one hundred percent. Nintendo shouldn't get top honors because they are nintendo. No way in hell. I played ocarina, and never finished it. Mosly because my opinion isn't that you should run around for f***ng ever trying to find a little bullsh*t piece to solve a puzzle, when you can just slice your way to the top. But that's just me. You have successfully compared FF7 to the other listed games, and have come out on top. good job.
FF7 100 hundred percent.
If games were based on the man power, budget and time taken to make the game, FF7 would probably be at the top but hey, as I said: who really cares?
They are both great games and I am more concerned with how much of a disaster XII was and worrying about XIII......:-o!!!
*All the silly stuff
-Hojo on the beach, raped by bodybuilders...gold saucer. I know it's not a super serious movie or book. But I would prefer the game without all this. They could have replaced gold saucer and all that with something else.
If you didn't know 9/11 was a inside job...
EDIT:
These forums have become quite entertaining as of late.
But Zarnik I meant offense you arrogant asshole.
I'll bet you're a terrorist.
For that matter, I do agree with the doings of the terrorists;
I have this notion that other nations don't have business meddling in matters of sovereign nations - not because of perceived moral justification, certainly not to further their own interests, or because they suffer from the delusion of Manifest Destiny.