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Title: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 01:48:12
I am sure you have all heard this one before...
But here it goes... I have searched the forum over and over again...
It might be that i am looking in the wrong place... or something.. but

I cannot get Final Fantasy VII to work on my other computer!

It works perfectly on this one...
This one is Vista...

The specs are (of the one that doesn't work)

OS: XP
512 MB of ram

253 MB video card (Nvidia)

and when i start the game all i get is a blank screen!

Um I am using Aali's drivers
And running the movies from my the FF7 directory...

And i am playing the game off a disk image of an iso i made awhile back...
On Daemon tools lite.

I don't know what to do.. i have tried just about everything!
Well not everything xD.....

So please, any assistance that you can give would be highly appreciated!
:D *dances* and if you help.. I will give back all of your materia!
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-21 01:57:26
On XP I had to run it in... Windows 98/ME compatibility I think?  Also make sure that the affinity is only using 0 or 1, not both.  Aali's driver works perfectly fine with XP as long as you use the correct one (x86 or x64).   Maybe also try downloading Grimmy307's opening movie that replaces eidoslogo and sqlogo and see if it will run

Outside of that you haven't really described what is happening...
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-21 02:03:51
I have XP and i have it normal. in config Display is 640x480 NVIDIA and the TNT thats what i have.
But mine is off the internet.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:14:57
Okay!
I have tried to re-install it...
(and don't tell me it might not work on your PC cause its older..it can run Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion.. so i think it can handle FF7)
It worked.. but... I get upside down movies... and all the words.. and textures are off balance...

here are some screen shots... THis is after i hit new game...

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss295/Wildsai/FF7XPproblems.jpg   (right by the train)

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss295/Wildsai/moreXPproblem.jpg   (in the menu)

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss295/Wildsai/yetanotherXPproblem.jpg  (before the reactor)

This is with Aali's Drivers

and i am running it in compatibility mode for
windows 98/Me


System Specs ( I wrote them down this time)

OS: Windows XP support package 2
Memory: 512 MB of ram
Processor: Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 CPU 300 GHz (2 CPUx)
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 5500 (256 MB)
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:23:51
i have the 1.02 patch implemented yes

I am tempted to use the 1.4 XP animewolf patch (or what ever)
But i am not going to... It is suppose to work... but
I don't know what its changing.. and it uses programs that they didn't make
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-21 03:33:42
The Animevamp patch is a piece of crap. It fucks up your gm.dls so that MIDIs sound wrong in EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM THAT ISN'T FFVII. Other than that, it offers no features that there aren't better patches to do the same thing.

Also, the problems in those screenshots are all related to textures, if that helps any.

Also, have you made sure you have the latest drivers for your video card installed? nVidia updates them pretty regularly, and so having the latest version can make a big difference for a lot of things.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:35:02
That PC isn't hooked up to the internet.. and i have no way of doing so! :(
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-06-21 03:37:57
I know the issue, You didn't add the extra \ at the end of the movie path, Should be, if movies are in the FF7 directory in a folder called Movies, (not sure if it matters on capitalization, But i would just to be safe)
C:\Program Files\Square Soft, Inc\Final Fantasy VII\Movies\

Not the final slash at the end.

Edit is located in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SOFTWARE > Square Soft, Inc. > then click (don't expand) Final Fantasy VII

Change the movie path to the one above, and it'll work perfectly

Just read your other issue, let me work on looking into that.

Pretty sure it does but maybe the GeForce 5500 doesn't support OGL 2.0?

Have you tried updating your graphics drivers?

Link to most recent: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:38:52
i already did that...
*dot dot dot*
...
:(
Thanks for attempting though! *gives Hellbinger a big hug!*

*dances about*

I guess i will just have to keep playing my FFVII game on my Vista....... *Sighs*
i will just have to switch back and forth... cause i can't do a lot of my Modding on this PC..
If i want to do the KH stuff... i have to go to my other house..... ugh!

lol

*dances* oh well.. no use worrying about it i suppose!
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-06-21 03:42:04
Hellbringer* haha

And update your drivers, see if that does anything (unless thats what you mean by you did it already)

And your card has OGL 2.0 support so thats not the issue.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:42:50
i can update my drivers without internet???
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-06-21 03:43:51
Download and move to the other PC VIA CD/USB drive

If you aren't update to the lastest version of Aali's driver. Because last i knew that only plagued older versions.
If that doesn't work post your app.log on Aali's thread, He should beable to figure it out
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:45:43
How do i do that???
wow....
I just click update drivers in the control panel!
how do i get that to the other PC????

(and this is the girl.. who made her own pC xD)
(and i have the latest version of Aali's driver's)
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-06-21 03:48:14
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html

Download that, then put it on a CD

Do the same with this

http://backup.ninjaloot.se/share/ff7_opengl-0.6.9b.zip


scratch that one then.

Dumb question, You ran the Regkey right? (so it opens in a res other then default pretty much)

Make sure you are running in a multiple of 320*240
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 03:49:41
Thanks I will go try it now! :D
*gives HellBringer another hug*

xD
xD

*dances*

Thanks again!


YOU ARE MY HERO!
That worked absolutely perfectly!
THank you so much!
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-06-21 04:13:46
Anytime.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 04:16:44
Now on to phase two....
getting the FMVs to work.
:S

the screen goes blck... and it skips the first FMV...
but i can still move around and stuff..


like i see the first dialogue "c'mon  newcomer"

then its all black..
if i run head long into the first fight.. the color comes back..
or if i just open the menu...

but thats not the issue...
I can only get the FMVs to play in windowed mode... and then they are upside down
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-21 04:19:00
There is an upside down movies patch.  But I would think Aali's driver would have that implemented...
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-06-21 04:21:54
I guess i worked out lucky as all i did was put on Aali's driver. worked like a charm.

I'd try the upside down movies patch Obesebear is talking about.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 04:25:41
Okay.. I will!
But..
I wonder why they don't work while i am playing on the full screen..
hm??

Well thanks so much for all of your input!
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Aali on 2009-06-21 12:22:14
If your movies are playing upside-down then you're probably not using my driver.

Probably another case of Vista's VirtualStore or UAC screwing you over.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-21 14:49:43
yes yuffie, disable UAC completely....  it is a menace.  I used a program to disable it, I haven't looked into how it is done manually.

But here>>

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-user-account-control-uac-the-easy-way-on-windows-vista/
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-21 15:14:42
They changed UAC on Win7 so that its' exactly the same except harder to disable. I miss the days of XP, when there was no UAC to worry about.

But didn't she say that PC was running XP? UAC wouldn't be the problem.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-21 15:48:15
They changed UAC on Win7 so that its' exactly the same except harder to disable. I miss the days of XP, when there was no UAC to worry about.

But didn't she say that PC was running XP? UAC wouldn't be the problem.

Which build do you have?  With 7201 whenever the UAC pops up there is a small link provided, you click that link and you can set the UAC to very high, or very low.  I've got a ton of different programs installed and after turning it to very low, it hasn't bothered me since
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 15:50:01
I am playing THe game on XP...

I said it worked perfectly on my Vista..

I am having trouble getting it to work on my XP

lol..

but i am going to go fiddle with it today..

Hopefully it works

:wink:
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-21 16:07:01
They changed UAC on Win7 so that its' exactly the same except harder to disable. I miss the days of XP, when there was no UAC to worry about.

But didn't she say that PC was running XP? UAC wouldn't be the problem.
Which build do you have?  With 7201 whenever the UAC pops up there is a small link provided, you click that link and you can set the UAC to very high, or very low.  I've got a ton of different programs installed and after turning it to very low, it hasn't bothered me since
I turned it off, but I didn't notice the link in the dialog boxes. I had to navigate Win7's mess of a control panel to find it. I miss older control panels, where everything was either its own item or a tab in another one, rather than having to navigate a bunch of links and separate dialog boxes to change anything.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 16:42:16
set it to classic view Covarr.. there is an option for that to the left.. when you first enter control panel..
its like this for Vista.. and WIndows 7 i think
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-21 18:43:00
I know about classic view. The problem is, even from inside a single control panel, you have to go through a maze of links and dialog boxes to get anywhere.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-21 19:19:55
I'll tell you what, Covarr, it has gotten annoying trying to navigate around all the options. 

The solution I found is to always use the search function in the start menu.  It ALWAYS guesses what I was looking for.  The only drawback is some internal programs like regedit have to be typed in fully to show up.
Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-21 19:23:09
Okay... everything is working now... except the FMVs...
the game itself still plays.. just some of the FMVs won't play at all.....
Like when the game opens... you here the chugging of the train.. and all the sound effects.. just a black screen though..
then a text box appears.. "c'mon newcomer." (still black screen)
i open the menu.. and all the color floods back...

it seems to just skip over the FMVs instead of freezing..


*edit*
its Grimmy's FMVs that aren't working...
it can read the movies fine from the disk.. and if i put the FMV on the hard drive...
its Grimmy's HQ fan-made videos that are the problem...
 :|

Title: Re: YES I know I am An utter NewB
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-22 01:15:45
If the FMV aren't renamed as "avi"  it will do this and if the FMV fails it will do this also :)