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Just wanna know if it's possible.
Maybe a PSP emulator?
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Not yet.
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no psp emulators for nobody. you might be able to play one or two games, but that's it.
don't bother searching for one.
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Can PSP games be 'ported' to normal PSX?
I know normal PSX games like FF7/8/9, Gran Turismo, etc, can be played on the PSP.
It should be possible to reverse the process...
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i've never heard of it, and i doubt it.
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i am pretty sure a PSP is alot more powerfull then a PSX and thats why it can emulate a PSX i very much doubt it could ever be done the other way round. (i dont have a PSP and i dont know the stats but this is my guess)
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The PSP can run PSX game through a emulator (just like on the PC). Games aren't translated. It has a somewhat similar main procesor, but as far as I know that's where their likeliness ends. The video hardware definitely has nothing to do.
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Can PSP games be 'ported' to normal PSX?
I know normal PSX games like FF7/8/9, Gran Turismo, etc, can be played on the PSP.
It should be possible to reverse the process...
No that's impossible. They don't run the same games, the PSP emulates the PSX environment!
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So, it's like PS2 runs PS1 games (emulation), but PS1 cannot run PS2
I guess that's it... Dammit! I want to play Crisis Core... :cry:
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Could you get it to run on a PS2?
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Could you get it to run on a PS2?
not without a emulator (which doesnt exist), And i also dont think a PS2 would be powerfull enough either.
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hm... I don't that's possible too
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i think the only way to currently play CC (at the current time of this post) is to buy or borrow a PSP there is no other system at current that can play it.
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Could you get it to run on a PS2?
not without a emulator (which doesnt exist), And i also dont think a PS2 would be powerful enough either.
you're saying the ps2 isn't powerful enough to emulate psp?
it certainly is, only problem is there isn't an emulator.
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Wow...just wow.
OK, I'm not an expert on emulation, but there's one thing I have noticed. For a machine to be able to emulate another one, the one with the emulator usually has to be much more powerful that the one being emulated (if anyone out there is an expert on emulation and knows better, please prove me wrong). It might be possible for a machine to emulate an only slightly less powerful one, but I imagine that would require an amazing emulator and no-one is going to bother making one of those for an obsolete console. In any case, there isn't going to be a PSP emulator on the PS2.
So anyway, wait a few years and you might have a PSP emulator for the PC, or even for whatever incarnation of the PlayStation is out then.
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Kudistos Megistos I think your pretty much right there (i am also no expert but your opinion is pretty much the same as mine).
Could you get it to run on a PS2?
not without a emulator (which doesnt exist), And i also dont think a PS2 would be powerful enough either.
you're saying the ps2 isn't powerful enough to emulate psp?
it certainly is, only problem is there isn't an emulator.
well i was under the impression the PSP is clocked at 333Mhz and the PS2 was 299Mhz so i didnt think it would be capable to emulating it (well not at a playable speed anyway) But like i said above i an expert so i very well may be wrong, I dont own either so i am unsure.
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:mrgreen:
http://jpcsp.org/
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Riiight, and my name is Peter Parker.
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I can play PS3 games on a nintendo 64. :?
lol u noob i can play ps3 games on my nes :-D
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Actually, thinking about it, I'm sure I can play 360 games on my Game and Watch.
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Kudistos Megistos I think your pretty much right there (i am also no expert but your opinion is pretty much the same as mine).
Could you get it to run on a PS2?
not without a emulator (which doesnt exist), And i also dont think a PS2 would be powerful enough either.
you're saying the ps2 isn't powerful enough to emulate psp?
it certainly is, only problem is there isn't an emulator.
well i was under the impression the PSP is clocked at 333Mhz and the PS2 was 299Mhz so i didnt think it would be capable to emulating it (well not at a playable speed anyway) But like i said above i an expert so i very well may be wrong, I dont own either so i am unsure.
psp is indeed clocked at 333MHz and the ps2 is indeed clocked at 299MHz, but the ps2's graphic engine is much more powerful than the psp's. also, the ps2's cpu is much different than the psp's one, as in it's much better (more cores with different tasks, etc.)
i'm not an expert either, but the psp is a ps2 made worse as far as i can see.
:mrgreen:
http://jpcsp.org/
it says there, "it can run a few games at a decent speed". by few i get it as 4, 5 and by decent speed i get it as, what 70%, maybe 80%.
EDIT: saw the compatibility page, it displays 7 games which aren't very well known (astonishia story, bust a move deluxe, breath of fire 3, blokus portable: steambot championship, puzzler collection, puzzle quest: challenge of the warlord, super fruitfall) most of which (if not all) don't run at full speed and still have several issues.
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Of course its not going to be able to play ANYTHING, yet. It's latest build is named version number v0.3. But it is by far not a DEAD project so maybe one day you will see crisis core on a pc for you hopefuls out there
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it's a year old and it's still at 0.3. i can't see it going anywhere.
and also, if you need a quite good system to run NDS at full speed in EVERY game, i wonder what kind of computer you need to have to run EVERY psp game.
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It took the PCSX2 team several years to get something to go beyond the first couple of screens of any game (not to talk about displaying remotly correct 3d graphics...). Cut them some slack, I think they are actually being pretty speedy. I see some problems though. Maybe It's just me, but I don't see an emulator programmed in java running at decent speeds (unless the machine running it it's a really powerful). Of course I'm talking about games such as Crisis Core, all those simple 2D games can run even on relatively weak machines as we've seen.
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It took the PCSX2 team several years to get something to go beyond the first couple of screens of any game (not to talk about displaying remotly correct 3d graphics...). Cut them some slack, I think they are actually being pretty speedy. I see some problems though. Maybe It's just me, but I don't see an emulator programmed in java running at decent speeds (unless the machine running it it's a really powerful). Of course I'm talking about games such as Crisis Core, all those simple 2D games can run even on relatively weak machines as we've seen.
i also thought of it as very very weird when i saw that that psx emulator is written in java, while most are written in c, c# or c++ i think.
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There's more than just clock speed to keep in mind. It also depends on how similar the graphics and sound architectures are. Furthermore, there's a huge difference, for example, between a 300MHz Pentium, a 300MHz ARM, and a 300MHz PPC.
Just look at Snezziboy on the GBA. It plays Super Mario World at full speed. This is because the SNES and the GBA are similar enough that a lot of tasks that would be done in software on most emulators can be handled completely by hardware.
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PCSX2 started the project right after the PS2 was released.
And it still can't play many games...
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you're saying the ps2 isn't powerful enough to emulate psp?
it certainly is, only problem is there isn't an emulator.
yes, ps2 is not powerful enough to emulate psp.
psp definitely loses in raw cpu power comparison against ps2. ps2 has monstrous bandwidth between cpu, system ram and gfx ram and can process insane amounts of data on-the-fly. that was the main goal of ps2 design.
but it won't help with psp games, since they do not have such requirements. also ps2 architecture is mostly optimized towards 3d transforms of non-repetitive data, which also does not help with emulation (keep in mind that ps2 snes emulator does not achieve full framerate in most games), which is usually a complex operation of repetitive data, usually requiring a lot of caching.
psp is designed to be less power-hungry and it has totally different design. in that department psp is slower, because it was designed to conserve power, and be a small device (low power, low heat)
that said, keep in mind that psp has a dedicated multimedia chip, that can handle dvd resolution h264 movies. i'm not sure what can it also be used for. and the main psp cpu has higher clock speed than ps2 cpu.
in order to properly emulate totally different cpu you usually need a machine few times faster. the more differences between host and emulated hardware - the more overhead.
also keep in mind that emulator itself takes some ram. after it would start, you would have less than 32mb of ram left on the ps2. i'm not sure how much ram do psp games actually use, but that would already be a problem.
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Yeah the only feasible platform to emulate a PSP on would be modern PCs.
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A PS3 could easily run PSP games....if Sony ever decided to write an emulator for it, that is...
The hardware used in PSP's and PS3's are similar, but different (not as different as between PS2 and PSP, however...don't quote me on this though, I haven't looked this up)
And a modern PS3 CAN emulate PS2 games, which run natively at higher resolutions than PSP games, but put a roughly equal strain on the graphics device.
That being said, there's no reason why a PS3 (which has a built-in Upscaling mechanism) can't emulate and upscale a PSP game.
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A PS3 could easily run PSP games....if Sony ever decided to write an emulator for it, that is...
The hardware used in PSP's and PS3's are similar, but different (not as different as between PS2 and PSP, however...don't quote me on this though, I haven't looked this up)
And a modern PS3 CAN emulate PS2 games, which run natively at higher resolutions than PSP games, but put a roughly equal strain on the graphics device.
That being said, there's no reason why a PS3 (which has a built-in Upscaling mechanism) can't emulate and upscale a PSP game.
Well yeah there's no other problems but the fact you can't run homebrew on PS3 and Sony will never make it run PSP games - they removed PS2 compatibility pretty fast because the PS2 is still selling like hotcakes. If they made PS3s run PSP games, it would certainly hit PSP sales hard.
Thus, like I said, there's no other option than PC.
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i have searched AND read, every result i got under the ext searches
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i have searched AND read, every result i got under the ext searches
1 song
2 music
3 auto play
4 automatically play
there was nothing available for instant song play on home page.
any ideas?
thanks
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Website I designed for no fax payday loans (http://www.paydaytown.com) company.