Qhimm.com Forums
Miscellaneous Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: DarkestDream on 2009-09-08 21:59:51
-
I recently completed the game last night. it a good game. i like the Sphere Grid system. but my hearts still love FF7 :)
Anyway. after completeling it last night. There is one part about Fayth appear in Tidus dream and claiming that Tidus is made from Fayth's dream. Make sense to me, right? but wait if Tidus is really a dream, then why Jecht (Tidus' father) is real and able to go to Farplane, and Jecht still see Tidus as his real son? I havent got the opportunity to play X-2 (im not really sure if i really want to play X-2). and at the end of the credit, Tidus got revived by Fayth. ok im really confused about this part. is Tidus is really a dream or Tidus just happen to died then become a "dream spirit thingy" then got revived?
I dont care if there a spoiler, just tell me, i been almost up the whole night trying to figure out about Tidus dream thing.
-
Auron died but remained alive as a ghost to watch over Braska's daughter Yuna
I thought he was going to watch over Tidus? Thats what I understoof anyway. And yes like Hermoor said DON'T BUY FFX-2!!!! I have yet to beat it, and I never will.
Only reason I liked FFX was the switch players in and out of battles, and the Sphere Grid System, and how badass Auron was I never let him out of my party.
-
Meh FFX-2 wasn't that bad :-P, as long as you remember that it can't really be judged as a main series game. I found it quite fun. It doesn't come anywhere near FFX, but I don't think it was really meant to.
-
It was a long time since I played the game, but wasn't there some kind of connection between Sin, Jecht, Tidus? Jecht got sucked up by Sin 1000 years ago when Tidus was just a kid. And came to the future and went with Auron and whatever his name was Braska? They defeated Sin together...Braska died, Auron died but remained alive as a ghost to watch over Braska's daughter Yuna.
Jecht defeated Sin and somehow got reborn as Sin? I don't remember. But he is Sin...then Tidus gets sucked up into Sin's mouth. And Auron watches over him too. Because he promised Jecht to come and get him. Then Tidus meets Yuna and her destiny is to defeat Sin (Jecht). Then a lot of random stuff happens....
In the end Tidus fights his father Sin. And by defeating him he destroys the only connection he had to the world, Sin? His father, Auron and Jecht returns to the farplane right. And that is where it all ends....I don't remember anything about Yu Yevon.
Auron is quite a awesome character when you think about it. And don't buy FFX-2, worst Final Fantasy game to date...I repeat DON'T BUY IT!! Even Final Fantasy XII is better than that.
I understood that part, already got that in my mind but why Fayth claimed Tidus is a dream? If Tidus is from the past and carried to the future, then why he is not an actual spira human being other than a "dream" as fayth create him?
I must be overlooking thing
-
*SPOILERS*
This is something the game never really deals with. Jecht and Tidus are part of the Fayth's dream, not from the past. Something happened almost 10 years before the story began and some sin managed to pull Jecht from the dream into the "real world" where he became Brasca's guardian and the Fayth for the "final aeon" that would destroy Sin, kill the summoner, and eventually become the next Sin. During this, he somehow sucked the unsent Auron into the Zanarkand dream. Once he actually became sin again (10 years later) he was able to access the dream world and the real world and managed to pull Auron and Tidus into the real world again. Again, something the game doesn't explain how he's able to do these things.
In summary; Jecht was also part of the dream and somehow got pulled into Brasca's world. We're not told how or why.
Tidus was always a dream character too. When Yu Yevon was defeated, the Fayth "woke up" and the dream ended. This includes everything that was part of the dream (ie. Tidus). X-2 introduces the impossible plot hole of the "guy that never existed is still alive and you can bring him back!"
*END SPOILERS*
This, along with several other elements, makes me hate this game. Too many things don't get answered and I just ended the game asking more questions. I enjoyed nothing about this game except turning it off and selling it back to GameStop.
I was close to deleting the following because I'm mostly certain it'll get moderated and removed. "But wait," I said to myself "the Internet is a place for expressing oneself without fear of bodily harm as a reprisal like in your Elementary School days. You should feel free to give negative statements in the hopes that someone will actually read it before it gets erased forever and becomes impossible for anyone to see it and actually think critically upon the subject." That was enough to convince me that I should leave it so you too can discover the benefit of reacting to criticism. If nothing else it will, hopefully, make you into a better critical thinker and encourage you to pick your battles. Which, in turn, will allow you the opportunity to develop the dormant skill of forming constructive and convincing argumentative rebuttals. Who am I to rob you of that educational process?
I also can't stand the androgynous fanchilds that can't defend why they like FFX so much. They're just whiny brats who love the fact that it's one of the first games they got on their PS2 because it was a Final Fantasy game and they can't get past those two words on the title. Voice-acting, high-poly counts, pretty music, and made-up-languages-that-are-really-cyphers don't make a good game! If you think that's all it takes then good for you for finding enjoyment in a game where the story was the element that was given the least amount of attention. It's a narrative RPG for crying out loud! The first 2/3 (or more) of the game is told like a campfire story because it practically IS! The story is what drives me to walk half-way around the planet chasing after some freak hermaphrodite wearing too much make-up (read: Kefka, Kuja, and Seymour). If I don't want motivation for going from point A to point B killing everything I meet I'll play Quake, Doom, or any number of ID games where the principle game-play mechanic was actually the thing that was given the most attention (eg. killing everything that moves and a few things that don't). If you CAN defend why you like it and don't believe that any other game that ISN'T FFX is a waste of the media it's printed on, then my hatred doesn't apply to you. At that point I just stop taking anything you say about the "quality of games these days" seriously.
Likely to get modded for my Ben Croshaw impression even though I'm not calling anyone in particular out,
NFITC1 ;)
PS - Subsequently I archived this in case anyone is interested in reading it after it's gone. :(
-
That one thing i like about FF series, it allow you to guess thing, assume which the story really fit right. that the reason why i love FF7 so much because during the timelime of FF7, there is lots of question un-answered but you still can guess what it really like. For example, what is the true purpose for Vincent Valentine to be Chaos, it answered most of the time in Dirge of Cerberus (great game in my opinion), why WEAPONS is there for, many other thing most of them can be found through finalfantasy.wikia.com. but i like the feel of questioning but make sense in the book. Compare to FFX, after completeling the game, i went WTF! it didnt make sense to me about Tidus and Fayth related. That is why im here to ask you all. i still feel there is more to it.
And i did research about X-2 is like. one of the game site said it based on mission. many many many of missions. after reading that, i was like it didnt have a feel of RPG to me. it didnt really follow what FFX is like. so im curious what X-2 is like
-
Wow, it seems like we're all in a bad mood today! :-D
I actually really like FFX, although for a different reason from the fans NFITC1 is calling out (I prefer having no voice acting in RPGs, and graphics aren't a big deal for me; my first game was Super Mario Bros :-P)
X does have a weak storyline, and I didn't like any of the characters much (although Lulu and Rikku made good eye candy), however, it's great fun to play. I liked the sphere grid as a character growth system. It meant that characters would nearly always have their own strengths and weaknesses, but it wasn't as constraining as the traditional job system; the characters could be customised however you wanted.
Also, it's a lot more "expansive" than the other FF games; by this I mean that there's a lot more to do in terms of side quests and such. The monster arena where you fought all kinds of monsters that you'd caught or that had been synthesised from them was a great idea, because it greatly increased the game's lifespan, as did the Dark Aeon side-quest; it was ages before you'd finished off every enemy that was in the game, and the challenge lasted much longer because the characters could go up to 99999HP and the enemies could be powered up accordingly. Usually, FF games become boring when you're at level 99 and you've beaten the one or two non-recurring super enemies, because there is no longer anything that can even put up a fight. In FFX there was nearly always something that could give you a decent battle, even after you'd beaten everything once. Unless you'd spent months getting everyone up to their maximum for every stat, the more powerful "original monsters" in the arena would always be able to stand up for themselves. Ph, that reminds me about another point; a lot of the monsters simply couldn't be beaten by holding down X or having a good setup; you needed a strategy to beat them. Not necessarily a complex strategy, but always something :wink:
Well, that's all I can be bothered to type for now
-
FFVII had VERY few unanswered questions. Most of the more obscure answers are in hidden scenes scattered throughout. I don't think DoC had that great a story, but it was fun to play. Its story seemed very forced to me, actually. FFVII's story does have problems of course (mostly poor translations), but you can't play a fantasy game without some imagination.
Wow, it seems like we're all in a bad mood today! :-D
I actually really like FFX, although for a different reason from the fans NFITC1 is calling out (I prefer having no voice acting in RPGs, and graphics aren't a big deal for me; my first game was Super Mario Bros :-P)
I've actually had a very good day. Telling people why I hate FFX makes it better. ;)
X does have a weak storyline, and I didn't like any of the characters much (although Lulu and Rikku made good eye candy), however, it's great fun to play. I liked the sphere grid as a character growth system. It meant that characters would nearly always have their own strengths and weaknesses, but it wasn't as constraining as the traditional job system; the characters could be customised however you wanted.
I'm going to slightly disagree with you there. The Sphere grid was an attempt at forcing a class system. My problem with it was the "leaking" that happened if you took the time to really beef your characters up (as I did when I played). I'm more partial to the License Board that allows you to determine your characters' rates of growth rather than forcing a class on them at once. The virtues that I like about both is that, given enough time, all the classes literally balance out (with the exception of summoner and Blue Magic). But the Sphere Grid allows you to go through one path as one character, then that character goes backward through someone elses. One example: Wakka can become instantly unbalanced if he's ignored before you get a level 2 key sphere and allow him to get to Flare
Also, it's a lot more "expansive" than the other FF games; by this I mean that there's a lot more to do in terms of side quests and such. The monster arena where you fought all kinds of monsters that you'd caught or that had been synthesised from them was a great idea, because it greatly increased the game's lifespan, as did the Dark Aeon side-quest; it was ages before you'd finished off every enemy that was in the game, and the challenge lasted much longer because the characters could go up to 99999HP and the enemies could be powered up accordingly. Usually, FF games become boring when you're at level 99 and you've beaten the one or two non-recurring super enemies, because there is no longer anything that can even put up a fight. In FFX there was nearly always something that could give you a decent battle, even after you'd beaten everything once. Unless you'd spent months getting everyone up to their maximum for every stat, the more powerful "original monsters" in the arena would always be able to stand up for themselves. Ph, that reminds me about another point; a lot of the monsters simply couldn't be beaten by holding down X or having a good setup; you needed a strategy to beat them. Not necessarily a complex strategy, but always something :wink:
Well, that's all I can be bothered to type for now
The monster arena was a horrible pain for me to keep up with and it was too repetitive. In order to get all the synthed monsters (aka, Nemesis), you had to capture 10 of EACH common encounter monster. By the time you get the capture weapons you're more than half-way through the game. This means going back through all the boring parts that you went through before getting in battle after battle hoping to capture ONE MORE of those rare monsters that show up in 1/16 chances.
The only other "side-quests" I remember are the cactaur "village" (which I thought was disappointing), the Chocobo Race to the East of the Calm Lands, that ludicrous Blitz Ball that was 20x more complicated than it needed to be, and getting each characters' "special weapons" (which weren't that great) and all their overdrives.
-
X does have a weak storyline, and I didn't like any of the characters much (although Lulu and Rikku made good eye candy),
I don't agree, it had a better more original storyline than most of the older games. To be honest, I can't really think of another similar story in history. Someone will probably give me a example after I have finished writing this.
It's much more original than Final Fantasy VII for example. Final Fantasy VII is about as unoriginal as you can get.
Original =/= good
I'd rather see an old theme done well than a new one done badly.
And I'm sorry to say this to all you fan boys out there, but it's overrated.
Wow, you're the first person ever to call FF7 overrated! For all your talk of originality, you have an awful lot of trouble coming up with an original criticism (well, overrated is a judgement rather than an actual criticism :-P)
There are two reasons why Final Fantasy VII is as popular as it is, and the other Final Fantasy games are not.
1. The villain design is very appealing to teenagers...aka emos.
2. A lot of sexual themes...teens again.
3. Set in modern times, especially people from the cities can much easier relate to it. Most people live in cities today.
>There are two reasons why Final Fantasy VII is as popular as it is
>two reasons
>two
:lol:
And aren't you a teenager? So I'm not sure why you're complaining about it being appealing to teens.
BTW, since when does Sephiroth appeal to emos? Oh, since Advent Children, which is probably where most of the "lol Cloud and Sephiroth are emos" crowd first saw the characters :-D
This is just what makes the game more popular than the others. If you would add the above things to Final Fantasy VIII, IX, X. They would easily beat Final Fantasy VII.
FFVIII? What? If I'm not very much mistaken, your "reasons" apply far more strongly to 8 than to 7. Plus in 8 the main character actually was an emo, not the weird definition that is currently used (I think most people on the Internet use it to mean "anything I don't like").
But 8 wasn't as popular. Clearly, there must be some other reason for FF7's greater success... :-P
The monster arena was a horrible pain for me to keep up with and it was too repetitive. In order to get all the synthed monsters (aka, Nemesis), you had to capture 10 of EACH common encounter monster. By the time you get the capture weapons you're more than half-way through the game. This means going back through all the boring parts that you went through before getting in battle after battle hoping to capture ONE MORE of those rare monsters that show up in 1/16 chances.
Meh, the boring stuff was worth it, and it certainly wasn't as bad as something like grinding to level up or learn spells. Also, to be fair, there were incremental rewards; it didn't take long to get any of the area conquest monsters. By the time you had a few of those, you were halfway to getting some of the species conquest monsters, and by the time you'd got those, you already had a few of the original monsters :wink:
The only other "side-quests" I remember are the cactaur "village" (which I thought was disappointing), the Chocobo Race to the East of the Calm Lands, that ludicrous Blitz Ball that was 20x more complicated than it needed to be, and getting each characters' "special weapons" (which weren't that great) and all their overdrives.
I liked Blitzball :cry:
It's apparently something that depends greatly on your tastes, and the first game was far too hard, but I thought it was fun; comparable to Chocobo racing in 7 or playing cards in 8 :-D
-
I beat the first game... 7 to 0... xD. i played it like 100000 times just to win...
(*is lame*)
-
I liked Blitzball :cry:
It's apparently something that depends greatly on your tastes, and the first game was far too hard, but I thought it was fun; comparable to Chocobo racing in 7 or playing cards in 8 :-D
Yeah, well, I hated Blitzball because of that first game. If the developers actually wanted to make a side-game that I cared about, why did they make the first time you play it so dang hard?
I never had any problems with chocobo racing, but Triple Triad was fury inducing since the rules kept changing. :P
-
I agree. The first blitzball game wasn't just hard, it was the *hardest*. No decent abilities, no good players. Even if you managed to grab the Jecht Shot, you never have enough points to actually use it that early on...
FFX was quite lame for TWO reasons.
1) Lousy plot, it was like the developers tried too hard to make it original (MGS2 anyone?). It just never grasped my attention, I never felt immersed into it like I do with other FF games.
2) *Terrible* character design. Making the main character a weak annoying sissy with no strong suits (first original attack you learn is cheer? really?) is NOT a good idea. The strongest bloody character fought by throwing a volleyball for Christ's sake...
3) It robbed me of my ability to count.
I could name a bunch, but those are the main reasons. Sure FF7's story was unoriginal, but I'd like to think it was pretty original at the time (or maybe I was just too young when I first played it to recognize/care about cliches), but I certainly appreciated the fact that it was immersive, emotional, and well-done. There was a lot beneath the surface (symbolism, undertones, etc...) that satisfied even those who loathe unoriginality.
But it wasn't the worst...you know a game is bad when you can't be bothered to even beat it...and this happened to me for FFX-2 (how the f**k did i even manage to get to the last stage at lv 30??) and FFXII (why? why must the dungeons take 2 hours to navigate? and what the hell is up with the countless unnecessary status attributes? disease? really? wtf sqare? I was dead before I even realized what it did and that there's no way to heal it)
-
2) *Terrible* character design. Making the main character a weak annoying sissy with no strong suits (first original attack you learn is cheer? really?) is NOT a good idea. The strongest bloody character fought by throwing a volleyball for Christ's sake...
Wakka is very strong person in the game, same as Kimahri. Kimahri is highly customizeable, you can make him take any path of each character. i took Kimahri to Wakka path because of higher str.
And one thing is REALLY bugging me in FFX... Who is the leader in the group? On the cover of FFX game, i see Tidus, so i assumed he must be the leader of the group but when i progress in the game, i realized there is no de facto leader in the group. i noticed Auron is the leader but no one claim it. I know Yuna is somewhat a "leader" because she a summoner and the rest is the guardian. but Heck i strongly feel Auron the leader because he the one who guide them. That why i feel a little disappointed in FFX. i know Square usually have leader like Cloud, Squall and Sora (KH/KH2). but why FFX dont make it happen?
-
I always got the impression that Tidus was just along for the ride. Yuna is the true leader of the group, but Tidus is the main character.
3) It robbed me of my ability to count.
I'm assuming you're talking about the Lightning Plains. What really bothered me is that piano BGM that sounded to me like elevator music waiting on a VERY boring ride. But yes, 200 dodges when it strikes about 4 seconds apart is infuriating. It took me about 5 minutes to find a "sweet spot" that lightning would strike often. Then I got all the way up to over 180 or so dodges and I blinked and got hit! It bothered me that it didn't get "easier" after so many dodges.
At least it wasn't as vicious or annoying as the Jump Rope game in IX. *gag* That's the one mini-game I hate from IX. :(
Let me guess you are either a emo or stupid. No offense,
How can that be anything but an insult? Again, this is what I was talking about. DEFEND YOUR OPINION WITHOUT SAYING OTHERS' ARE STUPID!
but calling the plot of Final Fantasy X lousy, in my opinion it's a masterpiece. Like matrix ghost in the shell etc. It raises a lot of philosophical questions, and for the smart guy it's not hard to understand. Final Fantasy VII is a great game, but admit it. The main reasons it's so popular is because of the "coolness" of it all. That is why it's so popular among teens...it's probably the coolest FF game, but 10 is better. Maybe not the character design or the fact that they erased the world map. But look at the storyline and music.
Not the defense I was talking about. The whole "Look! It's awesome because it's awesome!" argument doesn't hold weight with me. You also can't tell someone why they're "emo or stupid" by saying that "in [your] opinion it's a masterpiece". I don't have time to get into this right now, but your logic is incomplete. You've yet to extol the virtues of FFX's plot.
-
Wow. You completely missed the point. I know the plot, I just don't think it's good. Don't tell me what it is, tell me why it's good.
-
RE-POST: Ya know, I'd really like to explain why I don't like it, but I don't want to waste everyone's time (it's a LONG reason). I deleted what I had here and hope that no one reads it. If anyone did, know that I'm in a bad mood because the latest WM/PrC update has gotten me confused about what to do with the string editing in AI scripts. :(
Suffice to say your post, Hermoor, didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I don't like how poorly the story of FFX was told. It had epic potential, but poor acting really killed it for me. No, there's no evidence that Tidus/Yuna had sex in that scene. That was also my least favorite part about the game.
At least Squeenix got smart with XII and left out any major love-story even though the kids in Rabanastre hint that Penelo and Vaan have something together.
It's a freakin' ROLE-PLAYING GAME! If I'm forced to play the role of a character I don't like then don't FORCE him to cling to one character if there are AFFECTION POINTS that alter how the girls respond to him!! Lulu happened to be my partner the only time I played this game and Yuna still wouldn't leave Tidus alone with her!
At that, I'll save you from a wall of text and just retire from this thread all together. Just thinking this deep about X makes me feel ill.
-
Ahh wasted some minutes on typing that... :-D
Yeah, you did. Wanna know why? Because you could have copypasted that summary of FF7 from any angry Kefta fantard; we've all heard FF7 being described that way a million times :-D
But moving on, I'll show you a trick that you can use when arguing about FF games; it's super effective!
The plot of FF10 is this: Whiny teenager has father issues, falls in love with high-status girl, saves the world by beating the big bad and then dies; every bawwws about it.
The plot of FF9 is this: Ugly queen treats beautiful princess badly, princess falls in love with a rogue and runs away with him, they beat the bad guy and everyone lives happily ever after.
Do you see what I did there? I over-simplified the storylines of those two games to the point of inaccuracy and now they seem very crappy and unoriginal; the way I made it sound, FF9 is the most unoriginal storyline ever and 10 isn't much better. But the real storylines were a bit more complicated than I made them sound. This is exactly what you just did with FF7.
BTW, what do you mean by "emo"? I ask because we seem to have very different definitions of the word. The way I understand the word, Tidus is over 9000 times more of an emo than Cloud is. Actually, sod that; we've already established that you don't know what emo means :-P
-
And darn you again, Kudistos! It's YOUR FAULT for bringing up that character name thingy in the AI! If I hadn't known about that they'd both be released TODAY!
I am, however, glad you told me because it is definitely something that needs to be fixed. I'm still working on it.
-
Meh, I'm willing to sacrifice an early release if I can have 10% more awesomeness in my .bin editors :-P
And maybe you can think of it this way: since you're fixing a problem that would have come up sonner or later and may have required different versions of your programs, you're not releasing 1.3 late, you're releasing 1.4 early.
I hope you found that argument convincing, because I certainly didn't :-D
-
Let me guess you are either a emo or stupid.
I always find it funny when people throw around the word "emo" as if they knew what it meant. Or as if it had any bearing to the conversation whatsoever.
No offense, but calling the plot of Final Fantasy X lousy, in my opinion it's a masterpiece.
I also find sentence fragments and following insults with "no offense" hillarious.
FFX *did* have an amazing soundtrack. Possibly the best of the series. But the game was just too dry. As you mentioned, the "coolness" factor was missing, but the game was just overcomplicated... It was as if Square got carried away after they discovered that they could make graphics really detailed, then decided to make *everything* really detailed. Including the plot and leveling system. Don't get me wrong, the sphere system was followable, but if I'd wanted to spend half an hour trying to level up my players optimally, I'd play a text based game. The plot was followable as well, but over complicating it just robs the game of it's feel. With a game like FF7, you're given the illusion of making the decisions of the game yourself, whereas in FFX, things just happen, then the characters explain to the player what the hell's going on.
Case in point with the whole Yunalesca fight... I had *no* idea why any of it was happening until the characters explained it after the fact. Inclusion of a world map would've helped this a great deal, as the ability to freely roam the world makes it seem less as if things just *happen* and more as if you're making them happen.
-
Let me guess you are either a emo or stupid.
I always find it funny when people throw around the word "emo" as if they knew what it meant. Or as if it had any bearing to the conversation whatsoever.
Hey, I called him out on inappropriate use of that word first, you bandwagon jumper! :-P
-
Matrix is complicated, it's bad? Lord of the rings is complicated, is it bad?
Methinks the man doth exaggerate a bit...
-
Ok tell me what I left out...write a description of final fantasy VII as detailed as I wrote about X.
Does it have to be as detailed as this (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8941.msg117733#msg117733)? :-D
No thanks, even I don't have enough time for that :-P
However, I will say that you missed out any real information on Shinra and their relationship to the story, especially their relationship to Sephiroth. Hojo, one of the most important characters in the game, only seems to get mentioned when he is referred to as "some scientists".
You don't mention any of the relationships between the characters or any aspect of the story that doesn't relate to Cloud; you don't even say anything about the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris love triangle. In fact, you don't say anything about Tifa, how his relationship with her (and especially his promise at the age of 14) has affected him and his actions since he was a child, and how she is his link to the past he'd forgotten, nor anything about Aeris besides the fact that she gets killed by Sephiroth. This also means that you miss out on the symbolic importance of Aeris and of her death; Sephiroth does a lot more than just killing a flower girl when he stabs her. In fact, when you understand what Aeris represents in the FF7 world, you'll see that her death has far more impact than Kefka's near destruction of the world in FF6.
Finally, saying that Cloud just "forgets everything" is so inaccurate that I'm starting to wonder whether you've actually played through the game yourself. Seriously, nothing about Cloud watching his hometown burnt down, his childhood best friend nearly killed and his mother actually killed by a man he'd idolised since he was a little boy? Nothing about him being kept in a Mako tube for 5 years and experimented on, with the result that he gets severe Mako poisoning? Nothing about him watching his new best friend get shot dead by the company he works for? Not even anything about his inferiority complex after he'd left town saying he was going to join SOLDIER and then failed.
If I wanted to do so, I could make a ridiculously tl;dr post like you did (I realise it's a little tl;dr already :-D), in which I could do some actual justice to the storyline instead of summarising it to the point where it's just barely accurate, but I can't be bothered. :lol:
and I know what emo means. Teenager with personal problems, that pierce their noses cuts of their eyebrowns and are proud of it. A good role model would be sephiroth. Because of his design...final fantasy vii is popular among emo kids.
Please tell me how that has anything to do with Sephiroth at all. I can't remember him piercing his nose or cutting off his "eyebrowns" whatever they are. His eyes aren't even brown FFS! :lol: Could it be that you think Sephiroth is an emo just because he wears black? Because that's the only connection I can see. And BTW "teenager with personal problems" reminds me a lot of whiny b*tch Tidus :-P
-
Lol, to keep it short. in Fnal Fantasy VII everything circles around two characters. All the other characters and sub plots exist around these characters, and that is sephiroth and cloud. If you remove sephorith from the game, what do you got left to tell? Not much right...
They are central to the game, but the other characters are still developed. The game isn't just about those two; it's also about their relationships with the other characters (who still do get their own stories).
In Final Fantasy X you can remove Tidus or Seymour and still have a complicated story to tell.
Yes, but in some ways that's a bad thing, because it means that the game doesn't have a strong hero or villain.
-
Let me guess you are either a emo or stupid.
I always find it funny when people throw around the word "emo" as if they knew what it meant. Or as if it had any bearing to the conversation whatsoever.
Hey, I called him out on inappropriate use of that word first, you bandwagon jumper! :-P
:oops:
In my defense, I started that post before you made yours.
-
In my defense, I started that post before you made yours.
First come, first served :-D
I don't know why I said that, but I'm sticking to it! :lol:
-
In my defense, I started that post before you made yours.
First come, first served :-D
I don't know why I said that, but I'm sticking to it! :lol:
Man, Kudistos, you sure have been fiesty these past few days. Hmm, why my friend?
-
In my defense, I started that post before you made yours.
First come, first served :-D
I don't know why I said that, but I'm sticking to it! :lol:
Man, Kudistos, you sure have been fiesty these past few days. Hmm, why my friend?
People have their days. Somedays people just rub me the wrong way
-
In my defense, I started that post before you made yours.
First come, first served :-D
I don't know why I said that, but I'm sticking to it! :lol:
Man, Kudistos, you sure have been fiesty these past few days. Hmm, why my friend?
People have their days. Somedays people just rub me the wrong way
Heh, we all do have those moments. And its funny how when you have those moments, there's always some jackass to say something... Unintelligent, lol.
-
Man, Kudistos, you sure have been fiesty these past few days. Hmm, why my friend?
Yeah, I have been a bit more feisty recently :-D
I'm not sure why ???
Perhaps I'll calm down soon :-P
-
Oh I just love threads like these!
I liked both X & VII. I thought each game had it's own strong and weak points. I also disagree that without Sephiroth there wouldn't have been a story to tell... the character development and dynamics between all the main characters are part of what made the game for me. Sure, the game would be completely different without Sephiroth, but so would X without Sin... which is really the main villain in the end, no? Seymour's just a pain in the ass getting in the way. I thought X had a great story too. I was immersed in the worlds of both VII and X, they entertained me in two completely different ways.
I also don't think VII is overrated. I will say it's probably my favourite Final Fantasy going by my initial feeling when I first played it, so I may be biased. Being really immersed in this amazing story and having to find your way around. Getting excited when you beat a boss and moved on to the next location to advance the plot. Just dying to know what happened next. The shock when Aeris(th) died. I can honestly say I've never felt anything like it when playing another game, though I've had similar feelings for other Final Fantasy games, they just weren't as powerful. I think it's entirely possible that a lot of people that have played through FF7 have said it's overrated because they've played it after hearing the story or perhaps even after seeing/hearing about Advent Children. I played it when it first came out in the UK and no one I knew had ever even heard of it. I feel lucky now because I had this chance to play through it as a fresh experience before I even had dial-up to realise there were other people that actually liked this amazing game. I feel sorry for the people that didn't experience it this way. Spoilers ruin things people!
X had a great story too in my opinion. I'd say I preferred X to IX, though I liked IX too. X got interesting for me story-wise after Luca and then I was immersed in the storyline.
The beauty of Final Fantasy is that they are all completely different games, so I find it difficult to argue about which ones were better than others. I can say which ones I liked more, but that's only stating what my personal preferences are. For example, I enjoyed playing through FFXII, but nowhere near as much as I enjoyed playing through any other Final Fantasy (I include all from I - X, I've never played XI and I don't intend to play XIV either). I think my favourites are V, VII, VIII, IX & X. That doesn't mean I didn't like the other FF games, I just enjoyed these more.
-
at least we all agree that XII and X-2 sucked. :wink:
-
at least we all agree that XII and X-2 sucked. :wink:
XII doesn't suck. It's just different. I happen to like what it is for what it is.
But yes, X-2 sucked.
-
at least we all agree that XII and X-2 sucked. :wink:
XII doesn't suck. It's just different. I happen to like what it is for what it is.
But yes, X-2 sucked.
That's true, I just didn't like the turn they chose to take when making it. I feel as if it was geared more toward FFXI fans...
-
That's true, I just didn't like the turn they chose to take when making it. I feel as if it was geared more toward FFXI fans...
This is true. I don't know if they were trying to alienate the more traditional players or give them the experience of playing online without actually BEING online.
Regardless, I can completely understand why people don't like it when they expect the more traditional gameplay. I think that even if the game weren't called "Final Fantasy" I'd still enjoy it as much as I do now. Maybe now that I gave this a chance I should re-evaluate Rogue Planet...
-
at least we all agree that XII and X-2 sucked. :wink:
XII doesn't suck. It's just different. I happen to like what it is for what it is.
But yes, X-2 sucked.
Damn you, just when we were all about to agree! :-D
I think it's entirely possible that a lot of people that have played through FF7 have said it's overrated because they've played it after hearing the story or perhaps even after seeing/hearing about Advent Children.
Pfft, that's what I've been saying :-P
Actually, I think that a lot of the people that complain about the game being overrated, Cloud being an emo and Sephiroth being a mummy's boy have missed out on the "playing it" part* and have just watched Advent Children and pieced together the story from what they've read in Internet fights between various FF factions. That would explain a lot of the weird things that I hear time and time again, especially as a lot of the criticisms of the characters remind me more of how they are portrayed in AC than in FF7.
*After all, how could they play it? It wasn't on their precious Nintendo :-D
-
ok then it settled then i got all the info i need for tidus. Two questions.
I know about you all giving a cold shoulder to X-2. but im curious to know what it really like? i read it said it is more of mission based. so im assuming it is like Phantasy Star Online (Dreamcast version). Oh BTW, if anyone know what happen yesterday, it is Sega Dreamcast 10th year anniversary. That why i didnt really check this post often because i been playing Skies of Arcadia all day.
And about XII. some of you said it more like XI. I already saw what XI gameplay like.... no offense to those player it is not my playing style for MMO. But i did saw the gameplay in youtube and my bro played it long time ago. he didnt really play it much and just ditch it. So what XII look like? i saw the details video of each summon... omg that so awesome! but what the playing style is like in XII? i check the finalfantasy.wikia.com and they have of bunch of spells that is way out of my final fantasy knowledge (i played III [DS version], FFCC Ring of Fates, VII, VIII, IX, X, Kingdom hearts [i know KH is not related with FF but their spells and summons is the same]). I did see the gameplay of the toughest boss in the whole Final Fantasy series. but again im curious how it is really like? im a kind of person that prefer to see what people think than what the gameplay revealed to me.
-
I think that X-2 is a less serious game, and there are only three characters (all girls) whom you control throughout the whole game. The plot is a bit silly and the characters have different powers depending on what clothes they wear (they become a black mage, for example, by dressing as a black mage).
XII is a lot like Kingdom Hearts or Star Ocean; it isn't a turn-based game like the other Final Fantasies (one of the reasons I don't like it; if I wanted a game like Star Ocean, I'd buy Star Ocean. If I buy a Final Fantasy game, it's because I want a game with turn-based combat). You can make the characters run around when you are fighting, and the enemies are on the screen all the time; there aren't random encounters and separate field and battle screens like the older games.
The graphics are very detailed, but I sometimes think that the game looks too detailed, as if the game looks the way it does just so that Square can show off.
-
Dude X-2 sucks...hope this can convince you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjddp5f7MQI
And I played FFVII in 2001, before advent children. And I think it's overrated...I didn't think it was overrated when I played it, but after playing the other ones in the series I changed my mind about VII. Hopefully someone on this forum will soon too...
So, who would that "someone" be? :-D
And I have to wonder about two things:
#1 How old were you in 2001? I ask because in some places you say that you're 17, but in others you say that you're 13. In any case, it makes me wonder whether you were (or are now) old enough to really understand or appreciate the story.
#2 Was it really you who changed you mind? I ask this because everything you say when criticising FF7 has been said by every Kefka fanboy for years. This makes me wonder whether what changed your mind was reading what other people wrote on the Intertubes and conforming to their beliefs. How many of your opinions about FF7 are your own, and how many are actually the opinions of other people?
-
Dude X-2 sucks...hope this can convince you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjddp5f7MQI
And I played FFVII in 2001, before advent children. And I think it's overrated...I didn't think it was overrated at the time, but after playing the other ones in the series I changed my mind about VII. Hopefully someone on this forum will soon too...
pardon my french. oh...my...god.... what the hell they would do that kind of thing in X-2..... Yuna and Rikku.... look freakish. grants that they got older but... what the hell is that? I see Rikku is dancing like a mindless zombies because her eyes is not even moving! I grew up in deaf culture, i prefer to have emotions on the face than the body... but hell there is no emotions at all...... *big time shudders* ok im backing away from X-2.
-
Final Fantasy VII takes too much attention from 3 better games in my opinion...no one elses opinion. I don't get what is so special about the story of Final Fantasy VII.
FF7 takes attention away from other games? So, do you resent it for that? This is another thing I see a lot. People complain about FF7 and end up revealing that they actually don't like it because they're jealous; it's nothing to do with the game at all. FF7 haters are like middle aged ex-wives that hate their former husband's new, younger, prettier, blonder girlfriend :-D
Of course, this resentment of FF7 makes people desperate to find faults with it. People spend a lot of time looking for things in FF7 that they can criticise and therefore pick up on minor things that they wouldn't notice if they were in another game. Every FF game has its flaws, but 7's are much better known because so many people have an interest in ripping it apart and showing that their game deserves the attention. No-one has that much interest in looking for the things that are wrong with the other FF games, even 8 (one of the other games that attracts the wrong kind of attention). It reminds me of how the smallest blemish on a famous Hollywood actress' face or the tiniest bit of cellulite on her thighs will get huge amounts of attention and be splashed all over the tabloids. If they were normal people, no-one would even notice these imperfections, but because people want to bring them down, they pick on everything they can.
BTW, if these opinions are actually your own, it's an astonishing co-incidence that you think exactly the same thing as so many other people. Is it that great minds think alike, or that fools never differ? :-D
-
I'm now even more convinced that you don't understand the game. "gothic, depressing atmosphere"? WTF? :?
And I suppose that if it had a brighter, happier atmosphere, you'd say that it was too cartoony and appealed to little children :-D
It sounds a lot like you're trying to show everyone (and prove to yourself) that you're mature by distancing yourself from things that you think appeal to teenagers. You see, young people are age-aspirational; they want to be a few years older than they are (if you're going to use bulverisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism), I will as well :-P). Therefore, they make themselves hate anything that is for "kids" or for "teenagers" (such as cartoons), because they are mature, and mature people don't like those things (apparently).
Also, I repeat my FF8 argument. FF8 is a lot more gothic than FF7. FF8's main character is pure emo; if he were a girl, he'd probably cut himself. The love story is much more important to the game as well. If the teenage emo demographic is so big and powerful, FF8 would be the most popular game by far. But it isn't.
And finally, FF7 has the oldest main character of any FF, AFAIK. He's certainly older than most of them. Most of the FF7 characters are in their 20s. Most of the FF8 characters are in their teens. FF9's main character looks like he's 10. Tidus and Yuna are in their teens. Vaan, Ashe and Penelo are in their teens. I'm not sure about the older games, but I'm willing to bet that Terra and Locke are both very young as well. The characters from FF3 certainly are. But FF7 is popular because it's aimed at teenagers? Yeah, I'm not very sure about that...
-
Don't try the psychological game on me, it won't work.
I'll stop when you stop. :-P
What I said was that the atmosphere in FF7 is gothic.
Really? Let's see...
Just look at the slums in midgard
Not what I'd call gothic. More like dystopian.
or the jenova creature without a head. Or the mountains outside clouds hometown.
Pretty standard fantasy stuff. Not necessarily gothic.
And the use of colours in the backgrounds. Green, gray gray gray, black...maybe some purple. Neon lights...very dark, and the music is very depressing as well. The only exception would be gold saucer and chocobo farm.
Never been to the Wall Market? :-D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/dzh4q9.jpg)
It seems that you're looking for anything that supports your argument and ignoring anything that doesn't. Let's see what the Costa del Sol looks like... :-D
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/337/400pxcostadelsol.png)
Surfing and suntan, eh? Goths love things like that!
Actually, hardly any of the towns on the second continent have dark colouring. Nor the places on the Northern continent. Nor Wutai. In fact, the only really dark places are Midgar and the Shinra Mansion, and the former is dark in a dystopian/cyber punk way rather than a gothic way.
Also look at Sephiroth...
Yeah, I can see why his look might appeal to goths. But wait a minute, weren't you saying FF7 appealed to emos? Goth and emo aren't the same thing :-P
Final Fantasy 8, 9, 10 has nothing like that in them. That is why they aren't as popular...because the main audience are emo/manga japanese obessed teens...they love FF7, because they can relate to the time the cool characters and the mood in the game. It's harder for a emo to relate to Final Fantasy IX and X because the main characters and the atmorsphere isn't as dark as Final Fantasy VII.
So, this has gone from being emo to being dark, hmmmm? It seems that you are flip-flopping around quite a lot :wink:
Two things:
#1 Since when did Japanese audiences and Weeaboos go in for dark things more than Western audiences? Japanese media aimed at teenagers tends to be much more bright and colourful than Western media aimed at teenagers. There's this anime that I like. I think you should watch it. It's called "Lucky Star". :-D
#2 The FF8 argument again. Everything connected with the Sorceresses is gothic. Look at Edea. Is there anyone more goth than her? Look at Ultimicia's castle. It's the most gothic place in FF by quite some way. And as long as we're picking examples of things that are convenient and ignoring evidence to the contrary, I'd say that there are quite a few things in FF9 that appeal to those who like everything "dark". Pandemonium? Half of Memoria? Evil mist? Black Waltzes flying around everywhere? Two villains that wear black, one of whom is always going on about the transience of life and feeling sorry for himself? Kuja is one hell of an emo! He cuts himself whilst listening to Linkin Park (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuc5aL17t8)! See what I did there? I cherry picked parts of those games that made them look like goths might like them.
Also the only thing that is emo in Final Fantasy 8 is Squall, and that is the only thing.
Yeah, only the main character. The one you're following around all the time. And whose thoughts you always hear. He isn't important at all! :lol:
Lol, Kudistos..give up you can't win this... :lol: :lol:
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1941/kagamilaugh.jpg)
ROFLCOCKS!
Final Fantasy VII is the most popular ff game because of the main audience are manga/japanes obessed emos...
I'm beginning to suspect that I'm being trolled...
-
I wonder what Jari's perspective is on this. :-o
-
I wonder what Jari's perspective is on this. :-o
Dunno, but I'm sure he's seen it.
What's your perspective? :-P
-
I wonder what Jari's perspective is on this. :-o
Dunno, but I'm sure he's seen it.
What's your perspective? :-P
Haven't read it entirely. Too lazy, lol. That is why I haven't posted my opinions in this.
-
interesting views on this. I did had a discussion with my friends like in 2002 (that time im in high school). few of them said they like VII because of good group, great storyline. come to think of it. two of them is goth.... well now it make sense why they like it :-P
-
interesting views on this. I did had a discussion with my friends like in 2002 (that time im in high school). few of them said they like VII because of good group, great storyline. come to think of it. two of them is goth.... well now it make sense why they like it :-P
DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!111 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But they liked FF7 because of the group and storyline, and not because "Sephiroth looks so kewl!!!" :-P
I think that some people vastly overestimate the proportion of FF7 fanboys who are Sephiroth fanboys.
For the record, I liked FF7 before I became a goth, when I was a goth and after I stopped being a goth and turned into that weird bloke who likes brightly coloured bishoujo* filled anime. :-D
*Inb4 someone confuses bishoujo with bishounen
-
]
*Inb4 someone confuses bishoujo with bishounen
you mean BishÅjo? :-D :-D :-D
-
If you think FFVII is emo, you are clearly 18 or younger and have a very sore grasp of what 'emo' is. It could also be that you've only seen the spinoffs of FFVII where the cast (specifically Cloud) has been made to be emotional and depressed.
Honestly, Kudistos, I'm pretty sure you aren't being trolled. But it's impossible to win an argument against the ignorant :-o yeah I said it :-P
-
Also look at Sephiroth...
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tony/sephiroth.jpg)
Hermoor, if you even remotely came close to being in the ballpark of having an idea of what exactly you're talking about, you wouldn't have used a screenie from ADVENT CHILDREN
(http://images.quizfarm.com/1105909768flame1.jpg)
Leave your swiss cheese arguments to your high school clique buddies, youngen. :wink:
-
It's hard to see things that don't work in your favor.
That's a quality of a humble person.
-
]
*Inb4 someone confuses bishoujo with bishounen
you mean BishÅjo? :-D :-D :-D
Bah, "ou" is the more common Romanisation! At least as far as I have seen :-D
Å, however, is more accurate, since "ou" might lead one to think that it's pronounced like the "ou" in "douche"
Honestly, Kudistos, I'm pretty sure you aren't being trolled. But it's impossible to win an argument against the ignorant :-o yeah I said it :-P
I think you're wrong :-P
He actually accused me of shooping those pics :lol:
Hey, Hermoor, if you don't believe me, why don't you play those parts of the game?
Really, if you're not trolling then you're making yourself look like an idiot. You're throwing wild accusations around that only prove you don't know much about the game, your arguments suffer from an unbelievable confirmation bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias), you're completely missing the point when I show you that when using your tactics, any FF game can be called goth and you're showing yourself to be completely ignorant of teen culture (or at least teen culture in Anglo-Saxon countries; maybe things are different where you live, but I doubt that Sweden accounts for more than about 1% of FF7 related sales). I feel like I'm arguing with a creationist who, when I show him a dinosaur fossil, says that the devil made it.
-
Me being a atheist has nothing to do with this.
What? When did I call you an atheist? I called you the opposite :lol:
If your reading comprehension is that bad, it explains a lot. I recommend you learn English; apart from enabling you to talk to someone without repeatedly failing to understand what he is saying, learning English will allow you to understand the game (something you obviously couldn't do when you played it :-D)
You want me to play what parts?
The bits whose backgrounds you accused me of shooping :-P
I'm going to prove it to you. That is why youtube was created...
You're not going to prove it, you're going to do what you've been doing for this whole argument; pick bits that support your ideas and ignore bits that don't. BTW, do you expect me to sit down and watch those videos? I don't think so. I've played the game as well. I played it long before you did and I've probably played it many more times. I've also had the soundtrack for a long time as well, and I listen to it all the time. I know what the game's atmosphere is like.
Oh, and the fact that you took the time to find all of those videos just so that you can argue with me says a lot about you.
now let's compare to FFIX that you say is goth...lol too funny.
I didn't call FF9 goth. I said that if I cherry picked bits of the game that supported the idea that it's dark/goth/emo/whatever you think FF7 is* and ignored bits that didn't, as you did with FF7, I could pretend it was dark/goth/emo/whatever you think FF7 is. I was just doing what you were doing. Did I fail to convince you? Good, because you failed to convince me :-D
*You keep on changing. One minute it's "goth" the next it's "emo" the next it's just "dark"; how I am supposed to take you seriously?
I hopre this proves once and for all that comparing to the other games VII is dark, and therefore more popular among self destructive teens and emos. You think there is a reason why teens prefer hard rock and punk rap and crap over classical music?
Some teens prefer hard rock. Some teens prefer punk rap (whatever that is). But not the same ones. This is yet another example of you not knowing which teenage demographic you're talking about.
Normally, I'd get bored and give up (because you're obviously not listening) but I'm actually going to keep responding to you for a while.
This isn't because I think I can make you understand why your arguments are wrong; it's because it's fun to see you dig yourself into a deeper and deeper hole by coming out with stupider and stupider comments. Each post you make smells even more strongly of desperation than the last; you should see how hilarious they are to people watching. Like I said before, you're like a creationist who is unable to support his ideas with good arguments and comes out with absurd ones rather than admit to himself that he's wrong. To the rest of us, it's very funny to watch. :lol:
-
Hey guys, it's cool to flame FF, or poke holes in someone's logic, but try not to make personal attacks. I feel like this convo *might* be headed in that direction, and that's never fun.
-
...and that's never fun.
I find your sense of humor to be lacking. :-P
-
Hey guys, it's cool to flame FF, or poke holes in someone's logic, but try not to make personal attacks. I feel like this convo *might* be headed in that direction, and that's never fun.
But these arguments are so addictive :cry:
I never thought I'd get involved in this kind of thing, but there you go 8-)
-
Hmm current Score
Kudistos: 3
Hermoor:2
:-P
-
Hmm current Score
Kudistos: 3
Hermoor:2
:-P
What, how did he get 2? For making me fall for his trolling and bringing me down to that level? :-D
-
Hmm current Score
Kudistos: 3
Hermoor:2
:-P
What, how did he get 2? For making me fall for his trolling and bringing me down to that level? :-D
Lol DarkestDream took his side so that made to but for the record you got my vote Kudistos
New Score
Kudistos: 4
Harmoor:2
:-P
What are the scores now?...now I think a lot of the people reading this probably are former goth or emos...maybe we should find a smarter older judge...
You do have some good points its just in my opinion that i like ff7 because the story is good and i like the materia system how you can get master materia and have all spells and all the characters are kinda cool and some really energetic like yuffie lol
-
If everything is then I am you, you know
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? :-D
It's funny that you should write that just before saying that your English is good enough :lol:
I'm starting to think that you don't know English at all and are using google translate to have this argument. And yes, I know it's unfair that you have to learn my language and I don't have to learn yours; unfortunately, your ancestors didn't take advantage of their empire, but mine did. :-P
You seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the fact that I used to be a goth. Do you know that an awful lot of young people from ethnic majority groups in Western countries who have an above-average level of education become goths at some point? And I became one long after finishing FF7; actually I became one around the time I first got FF9 :-D :-D :-D
I picked the videos randomly, and it didn't take more than 5 minutes to copy and paste the links.
Yeah, I believe you :roll:
it's weird that you can't see the difference between VII, VIII, IX and X
It's weird that you can't tell the difference between the two pics that titeguy posted earlier :lol:
I can tell the difference between the games and I can also tell that they all have some dark parts and some light ones. You, however, can not. I'd say that FF8 is the darkest; it's certainly the one that is most likely to appeal to goths and emos. It seems that you are confusing the figurative darkness that goths and emos like with high levels of saturation in images.
I'm listening, and I see your point. But are you listening? And I think this is as fun as you do, otherwise I wouldn't be replying to this. It's funny how you so desperatley is defending this game, as if it was your religion. To me you are the believer who is defending his holy book. And I'm the atheist telling you that Buddhism is better than Christianity but maybe not as popular because there has been a lot of holy wars and sh*t aka spin offs and movies
To me, you are the believer who thinks that people who don't agree with him are the actual fundamentalists. I think that a lot of those people are projecting their own ways of thinking onto others; they think everyone else feels as strongly about the argument as they do.
...the target audience for the chrisitan church aren't the asians but the close minded americans
So, do you dislike Americans? :-D
I wonder whether you think that all of the world's problems are caused by the Americans and the Jews (just like most other non-conformist conformist teenagers)? It wouldn't surprise me; you don't have your own opinions about games, so why should you have your own political opinions?
Also, I hate to tell you that the Catholic church is making major headway in China :-D
just because something is more popular doesn't mean it's better
Nope, but it doesn't mean that it's worse. This appeal to snobbery is a mistake a lot of people make :-P
you honestly think people from 30-60 are playing the FF games? You think Final Fantasy VII would be as popular then
What? :-D
I think the older and wiser 60 year olds would prefer FFIX and X and see beyond the coolnes of Final Fantasy VII
Nice appeal to authority there :lol:
What are the scores now?...now I think a lot of the people reading this probably are former goth or emos...maybe we should find a smarter older judge...
Yeah, if people don't agree with you it's because they're stupid :lol:
By the way, do you know that I'm older than you? So are most of the people here.
-
you honestly think people from 30-60 are playing the FF games? You think Final Fantasy VII would be as popular then.
I take it that you referring to age in years?
I experimented with running - I've loaned my PS2 to a friend for indefinite amount of time - FFXII on an emulator. Nobody told me that I'm too old. God damn it, people! Why don't you tell me these things before I go and make myself look like an ass!
I think the older and wiser 60 year olds would prefer FFIX and X and see beyond the coolnes of Final Fantasy VII.
We'd probably have to ask a 60 year old, but I rank IX as my least favorite of those, followed by X (oh, how I wished someone had punched Tidus' lights out for being a male bimbo), VIII (oh, how I wished someone had punched Squall's lights out for being an insufferable jerk and 'oh, woe is me!'-character) and then VII, which I consider to be very good game, although inferior to Planescape: Torment, for example. Surprisingly enough, I had no urges to do bodily harm to Cloud.
-
What? Don't you get it, everything around us "is" right. There can't be something outside everything. Therefore you are me and we are god. We are all one single force...saying god exist is the same as saying there is something outside everything. But how can there be something outside everything??? O.o
Personally I prefer a combination of Russell's Teapot and Occams razor, but whatever floats your boat.
Also, it's very hard to understand you when you don't use punctuation, and when you out with things like
you are me and we are god
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnpil_pRUiw) :-D
The vikings were the first people to discover america...and they invaded and took over great Britain
But they let them both go (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great). And they were Norwegians and Danes, not Swedes.
The Britain's fought the french in america. Which means that most white people in america are descendants to the vikings...my not so distant ancestors
Where did you learn history? And the Vikings left America soon after they came; they certainly don't make up the ancestry of modern Americans, except where Scandinavians have emigrated there more recently :-D
Where are you from again america I imagine...
BECAUSE EVERYTHING BAD IS AMERICAN!!!!!!111
Nope, I'm from a different continent.
You seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the fact that I used to be a goth. Do you know that an awful lot of young people from ethnic majority groups in Western countries who have an above-average level of education become goths at some point? And I became one long after finishing FF7; actually I became one around the time I first got FF9 grin grin grin
No comment...
I wonder why :-D
Not only the amount of colour in the images, but also the character design. The music, and the Frankenstein's monster storyline...
It looks like you haven't read Frankenstein either :-P
To me, you are the believer who thinks that people who don't agree with him are the actual fundamentalists. I think that a lot of those people are projecting their own ways of thinking onto others; they think everyone else feels as strongly about the argument as they do.
Translate to Swedish please...
I will when you translate your posts into decent English. :-P
Actually, I'll have a go:
För mig är du den troende som tror att människor som inte håller med honom är den verkliga fundamentalisterna. Jag tror att många av dessa människor skjuter sina egna sätt att tänka på andra, de tror att alla andra känner så starkt för de argument som de gör.
This is what your posts look like to me :lol:
So, do you dislike Americans? grin
I don't hate the americans
Really? You sounded like you did earlier :wink:
I hate their way of thinking
And what would that be? :-D
and I don't think americans and jews are causing all the problems in the world. Don't put words in my mouth...
Awww, we could have had some fun if you'd said you did... :cry:
Yeah, if people don't agree with you it's because they're stupid cheesy
By the way, do you know that I'm older than you? So are most of the people here.
Yeah but you are also a fan boy of final fantasy VII and a former goth...
And you're clearly a fanboy of some other game; a much worse fanboy as well, because you're seething with hatred for FF7 and anyone who likes it for taking the attention from your favourite games :-P
as are probably most people on this forum judging from how many topics there are on how to play as sephiroth...and how many different usernames that has "Sephiroth" in it.
Insulting the majority of the forum? Yeah, that will make you popular; you're doing my job for me :-D
And more people have names with Cloud in them :lol:
-
But they let them both go. And they were Norwegians and Danes, not Swedes.
Back then, the north wasn't divided into countries.
And you're clearly a fanboy of some other game; a much worse fanboy as well, because you're seething with hatred for FF7 and anyone who likes it for taking the attention from your favourite games tongue
Nope...
Quote from: google translate
För mig är du den troende som tror att människor som inte håller med honom är den verkliga fundamentalisterna. Jag tror att många av dessa människor skjuter sina egna sätt att tänka på andra, de tror att alla andra känner så starkt för de argument som de gör.
This is what your posts look like to me cheesy
Hahahahaha, så dum kan jag ändå inte låta på engelska. Och du ignorerade mitt förslag på att gräva ner strids yxan. Jag ger inte upp, och jag står fast vid min åsikt att FFVII är populär pågrund av blah blah blah....men jag orkar inte diskutera med ett FFVII fan om varför de andra spelen är bättre. Jag har bättre saker för mig.
Försök översätta detta till engelska sen skriv ner ditt svar på svenska utan att låta som en jävla idiot. Är det möjligt?? Tror inte det...
Now I leave this topic to die...
EW EW i want to know what you said jk lol ill google it
-
But they let them both go. And they were Norwegians and Danes, not Swedes.
Back then, the north wasn't divided into countries.
No, but they came from those places :wink:
Hahahahaha, så dum
So dumb? No, I think it's you who is dumb :-D
Jag ger inte upp
O RLY?
men jag orkar inte diskutera med ett FFVII fan om varför de andra spelen är bättre. Jag har bättre saker för mig
Looks like you changed your mind quite quickly :-D
What are these "bättre saker"? They haven't stopped you posting nonsense so far... :lol:
Försök översätta detta till engelska sen skriv ner ditt svar på svenska
No, I think I'll respond to you in English. As I said, it isn't fair, but that's life. :-P
utan att låta som en jävla idiot. Är det möjligt?? Tror inte det...
So you come out with your true feelings when you don't think anyone will be able to understand you? :lol:
ego de mala anakankhazo tous sous anoetous logous akousas. su de aiskhros te antipais te kakos te huparkheis. (this might be wrong; I'm a bit rusty :-D)
And you've been making yourself sound like a "jävla idiot" all day.
For those who want to know, google would suggest he called me a "fucking idiot". I think I upset the poor boy :-D
-
Hahahahaha, I can't sound that stupid in english.
Yes you can, and you have been doing for a long time :-D
BTW, it seems that you're the kind of person who can dish it out, but can't take it.
You pick and choose parts of FF7 to support your ideas and ignore the bits you that don't fit, so I pick and choose parts of FF9 to support my ideas and ignore the bits that don't fit. You think it's fine for you to do it to me, but you b*tch and whine when I do it to you.
You write sh*tty English that doesn't make sense, so I write sh*tty Swedish that doesn't make sense. You think it's fine for you to do it to me, but you b*tch and whine when I do it to you.
You use a language people don't understand to insult me because you're too scared to say what you want to say in English, so I use a different language people don't understand to insult you. You think it's fine for you to do it to me, but you b*tch and whine when I do it to you.
The difference between us is that I do these things deliberately so that I can show you what it's like for me to argue with you. You do them because you don't know any better :lol:
BTW, what I said was:
I'm ROFLing after hearing your stupid arguments. You are disgusting, childish and cowardly.
-
You are disgusting, childish and cowardly.
Wow you really want me to get angry...
Disgusting?
Because I'm not a fan girl like you of FFVII?
Girl? :-D
And you're disgusting because of your hypocrisy (the stuff that I highlight in my previous post)
Childish?
Because my native language isn't english?
No, it's because...
(get ready for this!)
...you act like a child!
Cowardly?
Ok I'm pissed...you really are pathetic...
You've been pissed off for a very long time; it's a good thing as well, because you come out with the most hilarious nonsense when you're angry :lol:
-
Disgusting?
Because I'm not a fan girl like you of FFVII?
Girl? :-D
I demand a gender test! Maybe it's a TARP!
-
Disgusting?
Because I'm not a fan girl like you of FFVII?
Girl? :-D
I demand a gender test! Maybe it's a TARP!
What? Like Caster Semenya? :-D
-
You said semen, ya!
But indeed, exactly like her. Him. Whichever.
-
Oh man this thread is pure win. So many lulz
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9089/legendarythreadco1.jpg) (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/legendarythreadco1.jpg/) (http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/legendarythreadco1.jpg/1/w470.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img338/legendarythreadco1.jpg/1/)
-
You said semen, ya!
But indeed, exactly like her. Him. Whichever.
Thankfully I'm not like that. For me reverse futa is the worst of both worlds :-D
Oh man this thread is pure win. So many lulz
Toasting in epic br-
Oh, wait. I've already done that :-P
-
I'd just like to put my hand up and say that there are depressing screens, scenes and music from every Final Fantasy game I've played. Particularly from those of the PSX generation. However, picking so-called groups such as "emo" and "goth" and assuming these games (FF7 in-particular as has been stated) would appeal to said groups for the reasons you've stated is simply ridiculous. You're assuming a certain group (whether it be age group, emo, goth, country, whatever) would like these games more. This is called being overly stereotypical or to use my favourite term - "Pidgeon-holing" (purely because it sounds funny).
Honestly, a wide variety of people like playing Final Fantasy games. From my personal experience it was a far older croud that actually liked playing it because of the themes and issues explored in the game. It kind of takes a mature audience to understand it, or at least teenage. It was my 45 year old uncle that gave me FF7 when I was well below the age of 10 and I can honestly say that while I enjoyed playing it, I didn't really understand it properly until I played it again when I was a bit older. Much like the rest of the FF PSX generation. It's ludicrous to suggest that FF7 is "emo", you could say that about all the Final Fantasy games.
I.E. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ6yqiVOHT0) is one of my favourite pieces from Final Fantasy IX. My god is it depressing! Almost "gothic", wouldn't you say?
I could give you links to hundreds of youtube videos or I could just say this: every FF game has "depressing" parts/music in it. That doesn't mean "emos" and "goths" are going to be more drawn to it. You seem to be forgetting that every "emo" and "goth" is an individual person with their own preferences and may not all walk around copying each other and doing exactly the same thing. In fact, they do the frickin opposite! By dressing and acting differently than the majority. Going by this logic, I could argue that FF7 is the LEAST "emo" or "goth" game because it's the most popular, something that (according to a pidgeon-holing society) "emos" and "goths" hate.
See what I did there? I overly-generalised a group, just like you've been doing. And if you're going by what society says about emo's, I don't think there's anything remotely emo about FF7.
-
Pixels (http://borgborg.org/faith_and_tight_ass.png), too many of them to embed as an pictur.
-
Pixels (http://borgborg.org/faith_and_tight_ass.png), too many of them to embed as an pictur.
I noticed that earlier but didn't bother screencapping it. It's certainly a popular topic :-D
Honestly, a wide variety of people like playing Final Fantasy games. From my personal experience it was a far older croud that actually liked playing it because of the themes and issues explored in the game. It kind of takes a mature audience to understand it, or at least teenage. It was my 45 year old uncle that gave me FF7 when I was well below the age of 10 and I can honestly say that while I enjoyed playing it, I didn't really understand it properly until I played it again when I was a bit older.
This is quite similar to my experience with FF7. I was ten when I first got it, but I didn't really get into until later. Every time I played the game, as I got older, I understood more and more things that I'd missed when I first played it. The same thing happened to me with FF8, which I didn't like at first, but is now one of my favourite games of the series.
I.E. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ6yqiVOHT0) is one of my favourite pieces from Final Fantasy IX. My god is it depressing! Almost "gothic", wouldn't you say?
I prefer Sir Frately's version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SZN3OqEsE). :-D
Still, it's a great piece of music, and a sad one as well (I loved the story with Freya and Frately :-) )
-
Ah yes, Sir Fratley's version is far better. And nicer to listen to.
-
Both your avatar and your profile says you are a girl. A picture is worth a thousand words. 6000 words that describe what you are my friend.
If you think everyone on the Internet who has female in his profile is actually a girl, you'll be in for a big shock when you hook up with one!
Really ancient image macros from the early days of the intertubes that Hermoor spent ages finding
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6200/umad1w.jpg)
-
First of all, I find what you just posted rather offensive. Not to me, but to the groups you've just discriminated against through pidgeon-holing in your obviously minute mind. (These groups being the specially abled and females).
Secondly, if you had had the sense to click on my profile to check (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2975), I'm a guy you absolute fool.
EDIT: Assuming that post was meant for me of course. If not, I still find it offensive.
-
Both your avatar and your profile says you are a girl.
His profile also says that he's 102 years old - which actually should give him excellent insight on this topic, and that he is located in your mother. Why, that my innocent mind can not comprehend. But since I do suspect neither are akshually fakshual, It doesn't seem like a particularly accurate source of information.
-
His profile also says that he's 102 years old - which actually should give him excellent insight on this topic, and that he is located in your mother. Why, that my innocent mind can not comprehend. But since I do suspect neither are akshually fakshual, It doesn't seem like a particularly accurate source of information.
What about his avatar?
MEOW!
Hmmm sexually confused maybe? And the pictures were meant for kudistos of course...but maybe for you too since you didn't realize they were meant for him.
MEOW MEOW!
-
Meow indeed :-P
What about his avatar? Hmmm sexually confused maybe?
Yes, very :-D
I blame /d/ :wink:
And the pictures were meant for kudistos of course...but maybe for you too since you didn't realize they were meant for him
You're making lots of friends tonight, aren't you :lol:
-
Dammit im out of popcorn!
-
Would you please quit using offensive words? It's OK if its in the name of trying to be funny, but when, as you are, intending to be nasty and put people down, it's just evil.
EDIT: Don't listen Jari! Cover your ears! You're being pidgeon-holed because of your age!!! ARGH!!!! RUN!!!
-
God I feel like I'm surrounded by 24-34 year old former goth/emo fags...ahhh I need to get out of this thread real fast...see ya retards... :wink: And btw El Amno Bandito, I agree with Seifer you are majot f***ed up for being 34 year old and acting like you do.
Just in case you feel like deleting that :-D
And who is El Amno Bandito? :-o
-
God I feel like I'm surrounded by 24-34 year old former goth/emo fags...ahhh I need to get out of this thread real fast...see ya retards... :wink: And btw El Amno Bandito, I agree with Seifer you are majot f***ed up for being 34 year old and acting like you do.
</3
I R CRY!
/slits wrists
-
</3
I R CRY!
/slits wrists
emo!!! you must like ff7
-
I think the final Score would be (drum roll....) :-P
Kudistos: 7
Harmoor: 2
Hmmm not as close as i thought it would be congrats kudistos lol
-
I think the final Score would be (drum roll....) :-P
Kudistos: 7
Harmoor: 2
Hmmm not as close as i thought it would be congrats kudistos lol
:-D :-D :-D
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2350/capturefu.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c2Vb7CqTdc)
-
Although I'm mildly...slightly upset that Hermoor has gotten all bent out of shape, I actually enjoyed reading it more than one of El Ammo's.
10/10 !!
-
I'm just surprised that Jari didn't attack him. I would expect him to make a topic such as "ATTN: Hermoor" lol. :-D
-
God I feel like I'm surrounded by 24-34 year old former goth/emo fags...ahhh I need to get out of this thread real fast...see ya retards... :wink: And btw El Amno Bandito, I agree with Seifer you are majot f***ed up for being 34 year old and acting like you do.
[claps]
Stellar Performance, KM. You've successfully weeded out another Seifer-lover. That was some majot ownage. I think my hypothesis that Seifer was to become the laughing man is coming true... I feel like Hojo.
Btw, what exactly does an old-goth-emo-fag-retard look like...?
MSPaint Boredom (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2353/72605871.jpg)
-
Meh, he did all my work for me :-D
He became so angry that he started to lash out at everyone towards the end; I said earlier on that he was digging himself into a hole, and he did just that :lol:
And none of this would have happened if he hadn't got his knickers in such a twist about a video game. I think we saw who the real fanboy was 8-)
-
Yes, I'm spending time talking about games I like.
You, however, are spending time getting butthurt about games you don't like, and throwing a tantrum whenever someone doesn't agree with you, so you're far worse.
BTW, I appreciate you stalking me; I love to be the centre of attention. It also shows everyone that your sanity is rapidly disappearing. And all because you got into a fight about a video game. :-D
EDIT:
I almost forgot; what happened to your sentiment earlier?
God I feel like I'm surrounded by 24-34 year old former goth/emo fags...ahhh I need to get out of this thread real fast...see ya retards...
You couldn't stay away, could you? :lol:
-
I'm going to tell you what you did (and you are going to come back and read this, because you can't stop yourself)
You got all butthurt about people liking FF7 more than your favourite games, so you said that they must be immature emos. You can't cope with anyone liking another game more than your favourites, so you started throwing insults around. That is why you are the true fanboy :-D :-D :-D
BTW, I should add that the reason all of my activity on the Neoseeker forums is in the FF7 forum is that I like older games, and all of the forums for the other games I like are dead (about one post every week).
-
I'm going to tell you what you did (and you are going to come back and read this, because you can't stop yourself)
You got all butthurt about people liking FF7 more than your favourite games, so you said that they must be immature emos. You can't cope with anyone liking another game more than your favourites, so you started throwing insults around. That is why you are the true fanboy :-D :-D :-D
BTW, I should add that the reason all of my activity on the Neoseeker forums is in the FF7 forum is that I like older games, and all of the forums for the other games I like are dead (about one post every week).
Man i love the term butthurt
-
Man Hermoor, I used to enjoy reading what it is you had to post. And all the suggestions that you would come up with in other people's threads. I admit that you were pretty good in my book. But now man, it's all about arguing/ranting with you. Why? Why are you being like this? Have you gone mad like Sephiroth did or something? An argument about a video game that consists of personal attacks... Drama much? Come on, get over it. You have your opinions and yes, it's obvious that FF7 is a game for "emos" in your opinion. But not many others think this. But it is your opinion. And probably others as well but does not mean that it makes it officially for emos. Am I right? I play the game, I like FF7 alot, it is probably one of my favorite games as of today. But I am no emo, so I guess I break that chain now don't I? And look, this topic is about FFX and here you guys are posting about "emos" and "goths" and whatever stereotypical words you've been using. Now that KM is my opinion about all this!
-
I like FF7 alot
EMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 :-D :-D :-D
But now man, it's all about arguing/ranting with you. Why? Why are you being like this? Have you gone mad like Sephiroth did or something?
Pfft, his butt is just hurt, like the bloke from one guy one jar :-P
-
Pfft, his butt is just hurt, like the bloke from one guy one jar :-P
I despise the day that person posted that effing video on the internet. You think you've seen the worst with 2 girls 1 cup, then you see 1 guy 1 jar, then you see "the spankwire video". It's a testament to how different people are from their reactions to these. Only me and my friend Jade managed to sit through the whole lot of it, my mate Kevin kept going on about how sick it was there was people out there that actually did these things and stopped watching. I don't know who's reaction was better, ours or his.
I spent a great deal of the video laughing in a shocked way. I think I was in sheer disbelief.
-
I'm not going to reply to this thread again
I know, we are surrounded...it's probably only you and me here that are not emos. Let's sneak out while no one is watching...no wonder no one is agreeing with us
So, not only are you insulting everyone on these forums and accusing anyone who doesn't agree with you of being an emo, but you're also a liar :-D
Anyway, you can sneak out if you want, but it would be a shame if the Doc left :wink:
-
OMG what the f*** is this sh*t, only because you called me butthurt like the one man one jar guy...I searched for the sick video. Omg what in the name of f***ing god is that sh*t, that is so f***ing disgusting...I literally was about to puke...OUCCCCHH!!!!
Even his butt isn't as hurt as yours is :-D
And I thought the video was quite dull; I suppose the Internet can desensitise you :wink:
-
Cant be worse the BME Pain Olympics anyone that watches is that and is not grossed out after seriously has some problems lol
-
If the spankwire video is what I think it is, then it's actually from BME. I recommend watching the bits at 1:41 and 2:00 for maximum lulz :-D
Cant be worse the BME Pain Olympics anyone that watches is that and is not grossed out after seriously has some problems lol
Apparently, I have problems :-)
-
Well there's also swap.avi and 4 girls 1 cracker.
Then there's the russians who beat the homeless guy to death with like a bat or something.
Yep, good ol' internet.
-
Well there's also swap.avi
Ah memories :-D
Actually I don't think that one was worth the time torrenting. It's not much worse than 2 girls 1 cup or 2 girls 1 finger; just longer
Then there's the russians who beat the homeless guy to death with like a bat or something.
I believe they were Ukrainian, and that it wasn't their only murder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs) :-P
Nevertheless, 3 guys 1 hammer is quite something; unlike the others, it wasn't consensual.
and 4 girls 1 cracker
This is strange; I don't think I've ever watched it.
brb, Googling :-D
EDIT:
I was able to find a video called 2 girls 1 cracker; I assume that's the one you were talking about. After watching it, it would seem that the Internet has completely destroyed my ability to feel disgust :lol:
-
it might be 5 girls 1 cracker, it's another old one
-
Ah, just look at what this thread has turned into.
And for everyone's information, don't post the links anywhere on here, it might get you banned.
-
I've never seen it, I know a few people that have though. Internet=desensitization.
-
Ah, just look at what this thread has turned into.
Do you think that it is better or worse than it was before? :-P
And for everyone's information, don't post the links anywhere on here, it might get you banned.
Sage advice. Anyway, you can find all of the videos with Google and a little patience.
I'm not sure I want to watch this video, it seems to be too sick to watch...have you guys really seen this? :|
If you didn't like 1 guy 1 jar, then you won't like this.
-
KM u must have guts of steel lol
-
KM u must have guts of steel lol
Thank you
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3922/hownice.png)
-
Pfft, his butt is just hurt, like the bloke from one guy one jar :-P
I despise the day that person posted that effing video on the internet. You think you've seen the worst with 2 girls 1 cup, then you see 1 guy 1 jar, then you see "the spankwire video". It's a testament to how different people are from their reactions to these. Only me and my friend Jade managed to sit through the whole lot of it, my mate Kevin kept going on about how sick it was there was people out there that actually did these things and stopped watching. I don't know who's reaction was better, ours or his.
I spent a great deal of the video laughing in a shocked way. I think I was in sheer disbelief.
Whats this spankwire? Is it worse then the jar video?
-
Even i feel a lil disturbed at some videos and all my friend thing im wierd cause i dont throw up or flip out bad like them. But to you to laugh and enjoy it You just won the guts of steel trophy :-P
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6810/13100537.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
[img=http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6810/13100537.jpg] (http://www.postimage.org/)
-
Hmm, yeah, Prince Lex is right. Remember Hermoor when you posted that uh, piece of shit picture and Halkun warned you? Well, posting links to these videos is like 1m times worse lol. Although I would like to take a look at them for lulz. :-D
-
Whats this spankwire? Is it worse then the jar video?
If it really is the video I think it is (2:26 long; file name 51835_masochist_sex.flv), it's one of BME's videos, but slightly more extreme than the other vids of theirs that have gone viral. There are a lot of people mutilating their own genitals.
-
More disgusting as someone setting a mouse trap on their... Thing? :-D
-
More disgusting as someone setting a mouse trap on their... Thing? :-D
Yeah way more disgusting a mouse trap now thats just funny lo
-
More disgusting as someone setting a mouse trap on their... Thing? :-D
A few years ago, there was a programme on British MTV called Dirty Sanchez. It was like Jackass, but over 9000 times more extreme. They did things like that. I think Pritchard used a much bigger rat trap on his :-D
(yes, they did show that on TV)
-
More disgusting as someone setting a mouse trap on their... Thing? :-D
A few years ago, there was a programme on British MTV called Dirty Sanchez. It was like Jackass, but over 9000 times more extreme. They did things like that. I think Pritchard used a much bigger rat trap on his :-D
(yes, they did show that on TV)
Dude that is just... DUDE! LMAO! That is sooo messed up.
-
Whats this spankwire? Is it worse then the jar video?
If it really is the video I think it is (2:26 long; file name 51835_masochist_sex.flv), it's one of BME's videos, but slightly more extreme than the other vids of theirs that have gone viral. There are a lot of people mutilating their own genitals.
Ah ok, i saw that as BME pain olympics.
-
More disgusting as someone setting a mouse trap on their... Thing? :-D
A few years ago, there was a programme on British MTV called Dirty Sanchez. It was like Jackass, but over 9000 times more extreme. They did things like that. I think Pritchard used a much bigger rat trap on his :-D
(yes, they did show that on TV)
Dude that is just... DUDE! LMAO! That is sooo messed up.
What people do to get attention lol
-
More disgusting as someone setting a mouse trap on their... Thing? :-D
A few years ago, there was a programme on British MTV called Dirty Sanchez. It was like Jackass, but over 9000 times more extreme. They did things like that. I think Pritchard used a much bigger rat trap on his :-D
(yes, they did show that on TV)
Dude that is just... DUDE! LMAO! That is sooo messed up.
I used to watch it all the time. It was towards the end of the golden age of risqué programming on British TV at night during the weekend, whose main audience was 13-year-olds.
-
The still play it on VH1. Or MTV, I can't remember. If you have Sky, I think it's on every night.
-
The still play it on VH1. Or MTV, I can't remember. If you have Sky, I think it's on every night.
Thanks, but I'm not really interested in watching it any more. As we've discovered, I've been desensitised.
Kudistos you are sick if you didn't feel anything after watching that video.
:-D
-
1 more post Hermoor and you will be a FREAK! lol :-D
-
This thread has no chance of getting back on topic.
Also, how about those various asian videos of them slowly killing kittens and or puppies. They may not be the most severe, but they sure make you lose a little faith in humanity.
-
'Gratz obesebear on the "no life" status. :-D
-
lol,
I'd like to thank this thread first and foremost, and the crazy asians that slowly torture innocent animals that allowed me to make a 1000th post.
-
One of the sickest thing i ever seen, the head sawed off. Im not sure if people did see this. That time the Iraqi?? have some american plumber hostage and show on video to slowly saw his head off. I was sitting there with eye twitching, the guy is actually screaming while cutting his head off. it wont show in american tv but i happen to found it in some russian site.
This was on the news few years ago. but they never show the actual videoThis thread has no chance of getting back on topic.
That for sure.... curious who to blame for getting off the topic... is it Kudos??? or is it Hemeer? mmmm?
-
[sigh] some people are really f*cked up. I've had upwards of 10 shots of vodka tonight and I still have enough common sense to know that the random videos that have been mentioned on the last couple of pages of this thread are some of the sickest, most vile, evil, twisted shit ever to surface amongst humanity.
The simple fact that the majority of people enjoy watching them just shows you how purely evil human beings are by nature. You make a video of firefighters saving a baby from a burning building and put it on youtube, 7 views in a month. You post a video of some douchebag tearing some f*cktard's eye out with a fork, you get 7,000,000,000 views in a week.
I'm gonna stop now before I say something I'll regret tomorrow when I'm sober and have my "dont-say-things-that-will-make-people-not-like-you" barrier back up and running.
-
I've had upwards of 10 shots of vodka tonight
The simple fact that the majority of people enjoy watching them just shows you how purely evil human beings are by nature.
I'm gonna stop now before I say something I'll regret tomorrow when I'm sober and have my "dont-say-things-that-will-make-people-not-like-you" barrier back up and running.
...Hell yeah Vodka is one of my best friends :-)
... KM states here that your purely a evil human being lol :-P
..Hey dont you hate when you say stupid stuff when your drunk