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Title: Thoughts About -Final Fantasy- DISSIDIA!
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-09-26 17:47:01
This has to be one of the best Final Fantasy's today. I give it 30 out of 5 it is THAT Good.

Dissida Pretty much gets all the "heros and Villians" from the first 10 FF Games (1 through 10) to go through the war between Cosmos God of (Light ?) And chaos God of Discord. And no not Vincents last limit break CHAOS. (Though that would be cool). My favorite aspect about Dissida has to be the on line battling, the Battle Gen system, and LENGTH. This game is 1000 times longer then Crisis Core, and brings back almost EVERYTHING from those 10 games.  For Ex-Mode "Limit Breaks" they'll have different things you have to do to make it stronger. Like Cloud and Sephiroth you'd rapidly press Circle to charge the Limit Gauge, Firion you'd use buttom commands, and Squall you'd press R at the right time to use the Trigger. All I can say is Square did a very good job on this game, they should be proud. Just don't make a sequel or it will suck, only remakes please.  :-P

Please share you comment and such. And if anyone lives close enough I'll battle them.

Have fun,

Masa-Buster
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 18:05:52
i've only clocked about 10 hours on the game, but it is very well done. they make great use of the handheld medium with the calender bonuses etc, and the gameplay is quite smooth, though it has a slightly steep learning curve
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-09-26 18:44:35
I just noticed that Ex-Death and Golbez look almost exactly the same...wow. 
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 19:03:59
yea, for 4 n 5 they had a thing for giant armoured villains... as to them looking like toys... well... thats what they did look like in ff 4 n 5 ^^ I quite like what they did wiht the oldshool characters (well, all of em for that matter). They're based largely on amano's art, but kind of an "as drawn by nomura". its something of a compromise between the old flowy style n the edge anime style. my likes.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 19:24:18
they did, to an extent... amano's style is practically impossible to model accurately, cuz it isnt a defined acurate style. it'd be good to animate with ink or osmething, but in 3d you need tangible shapes, which amano does not offer. he does however draw beautiful art nonetheless.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-26 19:51:54
I like this game. My current favorite character is Sephiroth. (no I'm not a fan boy, I just know how to use him efficiently). What are you guys' favorite characters?
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-26 20:41:18
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no I'm not a fan boy
Yes you are...your avatar...

And I like kuja, if you keep your distance and has good equipment there is not much anyone can do... :-D
Na bro. Not a fan boy. Although I should be because I find him cool though. And as for the avatar, just wanted something relevant to this here forums. Lol.
Anyways, back on topic, the character I find trouble using atm is Firion. Idk, he's kinda difficult to use in the beginning. Maybe he has some awesome moves later on.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-09-26 21:06:41
I should hope Kuja isn't "the best one"... Game would suck if the character's were that unbalanced. Maybe he's *your* best...

I want to play this game but don't want to slap down cash for a PSP.... If only Sony would cut us some slack and let us play PSP games on the PS3. The whole point of the PSP is that it's portable anyway, so it's not like it'd render the PSP useless...
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-26 21:23:16
Cloud is pretty good, but he becomes even better when he has those branching combos (Finishing Touch and Omnislash v.5) and as for the rest, I've yet to use them. I used Jecht and eh, we was ok. Took me kinda long to beat just one guy though.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-27 01:37:28
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no I'm not a fan boy
Yes you are...your avatar...

speak for yourself hermoor, you have sephi in yer msn display picture.

as to chaos, i'll get back to you in a week or two when i get to him.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-09-27 02:06:02
Cosmos God of (Light ?)
*Cosmos, goddess of harmony.

Anyway... I don't have this game.  Hard to believe it'd be worth it to spend all that money on a new PSP (haven't got one yet).  As for Golbez and Exdeath, maybe they do look a little cartoony, but hey!  Golbez is awesome!

Also, as a self-confessed Sephiroth fanboy, I must say that I like the subtle changes they made to his outfit.  He has also got good battle quotes.  Ruination to all!!  >=D

Besides that, they picked out a great VA for Cloud of Darkness in the English translation... they couldn't have done worse for Zidane and Kuja...

Yeah, I've been following this game.  Anyway, that's it from me :-)
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-09-27 02:19:42
I like this game. My current favorite character is Sephiroth. (no I'm not a fan boy, I just know how to use him efficiently). What are you guys' favorite characters?

I actually can use Cloud, Squall, and Firion fairly nice. I like how Squall can go up right close to the enemy and deal massive damage, but I have to say Cloud is my main character. For it is Cloud have to go for him naturally.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-27 08:16:21
I uploaded a video that I just felt like recording on my youtube. I consider myself average I guess, lol.  :-)
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-09-28 01:58:53
What I find really awesome about this game is that you can level up while fighting against friends. It's a really fun way to level when you know lots of people who play. Also, I find they did a really great job on tying all the characters together and making all the characters look like they're not all from different games, although I find Zidane (which is now pronounced Zidawn apparently o.o) doesn't fit in with the other characters. And the whole Cosmos against Chaos is a pretty good way to stick all the characters in the game and separate the goodies from the baddies, me thinks.

Anyways, back on topic, the character I find trouble using atm is Firion. Idk, he's kinda difficult to use in the beginning. Maybe he has some awesome moves later on.

Yeah, Firion is kind of hard to use at the beginning I find, because all his attacks are long-range and not that accurate, and his only HP attack is slow. Though I'm not gonna judge which character's my favorite until I get everyone's abilities and try to get used to them.
So far my main is Onion Knight.  :-D Even though he does little damage, he's quite fast and most of his attacks have additions to it. That and he's kawai. >w<
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-09-28 02:02:33
I thought it was a pretty fun game, Though i quickly grew tired of it. Though that might be because i don't have much time in my life anymore, and i find it more enjoyable to do other things then game haha.

Though i will pick it up one day i'm sure. also might be because i've pretty much beaten the computer to all hell, and my wifi card is dead on my PSP. So can't play with my friends or on ad hac..
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-09-28 02:17:12
I randomly go into Communacations and leave my Card Exchange on over night see if anyone is up to the challenge :P

So far nobody has met the wraith of G!!!
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 02:21:36
@ chocobo girl the art direction for dissidia was quite good, though i feel there is a gap between the games for which nomura illustrated to those he did not. that n its awesome fun to play you, part from when you spam blizzard as terra >< STAY AWAY :P

EDIT:
fergot to say, for the plot, with the cosmos/chaos struggle, i'm not sure how else they could do it, other htan making a vague version of every FF's plot, and theme of good vs. evil. nonethe less (not having finished it) it seems well executed.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-28 02:54:34
I never tried that Communications thing... Err how dies it work?  :-o
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-09-28 03:03:55
that n its awesome fun to play you, part from when you spam blizzard as terra >< STAY AWAY :P

Don't worry, I don't play Terra as often anymore. Though you have yet to battle my pwnuj Onion Knight! *evil grin*


I never tried that Communications thing... Err how dies it work?  :-o

You just go in Communications Mode > Online Lobby, and choose one of the lobbies. If someone else is in the same lobby you can battle them. ^^


And yes, even though all the characters are detached from their initial game and most of the elements from it, I do find they all kept their own distinct personalities, both in their way of acting and fighting of course. For example, Bartz is very easygoing, Squall's bein all emo and wanting to fight alone, and so on.
What I find a little funny though is that, say for Cloud and Squall, all their normal HP attacks are limit breaks.  :-P

I also love the dissidia soundtrack! I find they've done a really great job rearranging the battle themes of each game. Some of them have more a techno feel to them, others are more orchestrated, some have a mix of techno and orchestration. It's pretty neat. That and it's fun to compare with other versions of the songs, like the Black Mages' ones for instance. The new songs in dissidia are great too, like "Cosmos" that they use as one of the battle themes. It had lyrics, it totally caught me off guard. o.o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZZ96c5OGy4
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 03:12:32
Squall's bein all emo and wanting to fight alone, and so on.

not to mention narrating his own life :P (awesome job with that, given there was no audio different (just his lips didnt move n the subs had brackets i think) I found it quite humorous to have him dissing ppl in his head.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-28 16:34:39
My only complaint, emo Cloud :( 
Quote from: Emo Cloud
"Oh but my feelings!"
 "I need a reason to fight for my feelings"
"Sometimes my feelings feel feelings"

These aren't exact quotes, but you get the idea.   Squall seemed more manly than Cloud, and that is upsetting.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 16:36:46
i dont remember any of those, my favorite among cloud's quotes is "i'm not going to sleep tonight"
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-28 16:39:32
Some of his in battle quotes are pretty good if I remember correctly.   But his whole storyline REEKED of AC Cloud. 

I just wanted to see badass Cloud back.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 16:41:06
unfortunately square has forgotten about baddass cloud, as have most people.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 16:53:54
first of all... thats zack, not cloud.

second of all, stop trolling, go to your forum and socialize with /all/ your members.

as to Cloud's old peresonality, there was a slight hint of it in dirge of cerberus with the little "srry i'm late" gag, echoing from the opening of ff7. perhaps we'll see him not so emo in the sequel to dirge, and perhaps that game will be half decent. (i wonder if G will be russian again?)
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-28 17:01:23
I'm actually pretty excited about the Dirge sequel.  I'm sure you'll play as Genesis (at least some) and I kinda liked his whole story in Crisis Core.   

I'm just curious to see what kind of story they weave in it.  With Sephiroth presumably dead... and him and Genesis basically being equal in strength... the story could either be pretty engaging... or shit like DoC... we'll just have to wait to see I guess
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-09-28 19:01:30
My only complaint, emo Cloud :( 
Quote from: Emo Cloud
"Oh but my feelings!"
 "I need a reason to fight for my feelings"
"Sometimes my feelings feel feelings"

These aren't exact quotes, but you get the idea.   Squall seemed more manly than Cloud, and that is upsetting.

Oh come on, he isn't that bad, least I never remember him saying anything about his "feelings", ever.  :-P Only that he's searching for a reason to fight. That and Sephiroth constantly calls him a puppet, which is reason enough to have your self-esteem lowered. T_T
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-28 19:41:42
Oh come on, he isn't that bad, least I never remember him saying anything about his "feelings", ever.  :-P Only that he's searching for a reason to fight. That and Sephiroth constantly calls him a puppet, which is reason enough to have your self-esteem lowered. T_T
Maybe I exaggerated some :P  But if Square is going to continue using Cloud based on his AC personality, I would much rather they use Zack.  At least they haven't butchered his character... .. yet.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 20:58:27
PUPPET PUPPET PUPPET, sephi just wouldnt stop. its kinda like hermoor and his toilet bowl analogy.... that must make him a sephi fanboy :P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-09-28 22:14:58
My fave thing about Communications is the artifact Dagger or Noname whatevere it was called. Can't be equipped on anyone, wroth 20-30k Gill.

Thats all I've gotten so far.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: chocofeather on 2009-09-29 03:54:59
first of all... thats zack, not cloud.

second of all, stop trolling, go to your forum and socialize with /all/ your members.

as to Cloud's old peresonality, there was a slight hint of it in dirge of cerberus with the little "srry i'm late" gag, echoing from the opening of ff7. perhaps we'll see him not so emo in the sequel to dirge, and perhaps that game will be half decent. (i wonder if G will be russian again?)

Sequel to dirge????  Have the FF team gone so mad with money!  for christs sake leave FF7 alone!
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-29 04:14:42
Dissidia?....hmm..Haven't played for a while...


Cloud's a badASS?..... He seems pretty lofty to me...I guess... :?
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-02 02:44:18
I just just beat it. ^^ It was teh awesomesauce! Chaos battle was intense. o.o
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-02 03:16:11
I haven't gotten to Chaos yet, but from what friends say, he is like
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Kefka on Crack
.  I think I'm gonna start workin on Sephiroth or a villian of somesort...ExDeath?
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-02 03:19:05
ExDeath looks quite fun, you can't air dash but you can teleport! My friend was playin against me as ExDeath and kept on spamming that move, it really messes with you. XD
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-02 03:21:13
AWSOME! "Who needs dashing...I CAN TELEPORT!"  Problem is the leveling...mass Quick Battles or something I guess? TO level Cosmos characters I just go through their chapter a couple times. Damn villians have no scenario...which proves how stupid Square is sometimes  :-P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-02 03:26:00
Arr, I know I wish I could level the baddies through story mode, it would be so much faster.
What you could do is fight people in communication mode if you have the opportunity, I believe leveling is faster that way. If not, then I guess lotsa quick battles is the way to go. Make sure you plays lots on your special day, it helps a lot.

I'm still maining with onion knight  :-P Got him to level 74 so far.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-02 03:35:01
I naturally go for Cloud, the guy with the spiky hair? Remember him? We seen him at Wal-Mart the other day?  :lol:

Communications mode is kinda hard...Though I do leave card exchange on when I have the chance to meet some people. I know a couple of people who have the game already, but I don't know if I could battle them...time...its all about time.. (Damn you school :P)

Other then that...I recently killed a lvl 80 Sephiroth with lvl 50 cloud. Mass Cross-Slash, Bravers, Omni-Slash, and Climhazzard  :-D

I wants OMNI-SLASH VERSION FIVE!! The one from AC when he totally kicked Sephiroths ass. ACC Omni-Slash 5 actually had the normal 15 hits, while in the original it had like 5 or 6... which is what they gave us in Dissidia...Seriously, if its God Vs. God, with Heroes helping, the Gods should make you semi-Godlike because just because Cloud has this big chunk of metal on his back, or Squall has a gun with a long ass bayonet on it that fires 9mms, doesn't make them GODLY.

Though the game is VERY VERY good.  (Could have made Sephiroth NOT have that crappy jewelry on his outfit though...)

They really made the game allot more accurate with the characters though.
Firion for example, in FF2 he could use all the weapons, same in Dissidia,. In FF7 cloud could use Great Swords, same in dissidia.  In FF5 Bartz,c could master jobs, when you entered Ex-Mode it said Job mastered...lol I've been in an FF5 Mood lately. Jobs and stuff...Ff3 never really cought my attention...3 foot guys with helmets shaped like Onions that could change jobs? No thanks :P Though the story for it is VERY good. DS version...Must play...Thanks alot !!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-02 03:38:26
I beleive when you beat the game you unlock a new mode at the start menu, pretty much, its an endless fight, you just keep fighting more things. thats how your supposed to level.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-02 03:40:08
O YEA!!! The duel coliseum thing! Thanks Timu. I forgot all about that.

That means I have to kill Chaos, well at least GET to him for now, Chapter 1 for the Chaos Impluse..whatever it was called.

Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-02 04:08:13
Yeah I just unlocked that. I didn't know what it was really, I only played 3 people in the Colosseum n figured it be best if I stopped playing until tomorrow. Going to have a dissidia overdose. @_@

In FF5 Bartz,c could master jobs, when you entered Ex-Mode it said Job mastered...lol

Similarly, Cloud says "I'm breaking my limit!" :lol:
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-02 04:16:58
I level up by using the Magic Pot + 9999 BRV thing. It works wonders if you know what you're doing.  :-D
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-02 04:21:56
I level up by using the Magic Pot + 9999 BRV thing. It works wonders if you know what you're doing.  :-D

i'm not familiar with that, what do u udo?
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-02 04:44:34
Easy. Start a quick battle. Get a low level character (let's say, Cloud), and then choose your opponent (the person that used this choose Exdeath). On Exdeath's level, put him all the way to 100 (maxed out-- you get this when you have unlocked the level gaps in the PP Catalog). On his behavior and strength, I put them to max as well. Before the battle starts, have your summon 'Magic Pot' (you know, the one you get on the SECOND time around through Cloud's story mode (it's the one where you have to TRIGGER in order to summon). When the battle starts, let him use bravery attacks until you are on break (more than likely you will end up on break within the first hit). Continue until his BRV is at 9999. Once it's at 9999, wait til you have BRV and then use Magic Pot. Then hit him with an HP attack and there, you killed him! And your EXP will be flawless. It will sky-rocket if you have Chocobo Feather and any bonuses like the Gyashl Greens and the Bonus Day rewards.  :-D
Here's a good example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lTPPakxkAE
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-10-02 10:01:16
Similarly, Cloud says "I'm breaking my limit!" :lol:

Sounds kinky... :wink:

Love those Japanese games....  :lol:
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-02 15:46:45
Similarly, Cloud says "I'm breaking my limit!" :lol:

Sounds kinky... :wink:

He also says at the end of a battle "I won't sleep well tonight".  :wink:
Maybe he'll be too busy "breaking his limit" o.o'
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-02 16:22:07
Also when Cloud enters Ex-Mode it says "THE POWER OF MAKO!" which sounds retarded...o well.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-10-02 16:30:49
Just finished Terra's storyline.  Cloud is surprisingly...normal. 
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-02 17:20:03
Also when Cloud enters Ex-Mode it says "THE POWER OF MAKO!" which sounds retarded...o well.
I believe it says that when he is in his AC outfit. Which I kinda find it irrelevant as to why it would say that but oh well.  :roll:
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-02 17:46:39
Ohh, they say different things when they're in different outfits?  :-D
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-02 18:01:10
Well, I noticed that in Cloud's because Cloud obviously doesn't equip the Ultima Weapon when he is in Ex-Mode. I haven't checked the others yet.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-02 23:54:16
Advent CHildren Cloud normally has only part of the First Tiserui (Sword...no clue how to spell it) then in Ex-Mode it has the full sword.

I wish they changed Omni-slash in the AC outfit to AC Omni-slash. (Swords in air, enemy in middle, 15 random hits...) That would be soooooo awsome...

So faveorte character to play?

Firion, though I use Cloud ALOT but firion fits my needs of slow, fast, hes just in there. That and its Firion. FF2 has to be THE hardest FF game in the WORLD!!!! I only played 1,2,3(Never beat),4,5,6,7,8,9,10, CC, Dissidia. I never played XII or XI. Never really found my interest, for FFXII system was alot like FFX spheregrid, just FFXII had levels, and actual REAL-TIME-COMBAT I hated, ATB or Turn-by-Turn is what FF is based on, and it should stay that way. If they remake FF7, it better be random encounters  :lol:
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-03 00:59:53
FFII was hard first time around, sure, but I disagree with you, FFV was exponentially harder.

Why are people complaining about Dissidia Cloud "reeking of AC Cloud" and Sephiroth calling him a "puppet" repeatedly?  They wanted to draw parallels to the Final Fantasy Universe, and Cloud wasn't himself in the original game.  He was Zack, basically, at least for the most part.  And Sephiroth doesn't have real control over Cloud, so he has to instead taunt him into thinking that he does.  I actually thought the two of them fitted their characters quite nicely.

Though Dissidia Sephiroth is a lot like Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth in that he doesn't seem bothered that much.  Final Fantasy VII Sephiroth, by contrast, was like, hell-bent on destroying everything.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-10-03 01:42:10
FFII was hard first time around, sure, but I disagree with you, FFV was exponentially harder.

Why are people complaining about Dissidia Cloud "reeking of AC Cloud" and Sephiroth calling him a "puppet" repeatedly?  They wanted to draw parallels to the Final Fantasy Universe, and Cloud wasn't himself in the original game.  He was Zack, basically, at least for the most part.  And Sephiroth doesn't have real control over Cloud, so he has to instead taunt him into thinking that he does.  I actually thought the two of them fitted their characters quite nicely.

Though Dissidia Sephiroth is a lot like Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth in that he doesn't seem bothered that much.  Final Fantasy VII Sephiroth, by contrast, was like, hell-bent on destroying everything.
He doesn't act anything like Zack in this game.  When I played FF7 I got the impression Cloud didn't care about much of anything and was basically a badass, and even when he realized who he really is, he stayed basically the same, but just started caring about others.  There was no complaining about how everything is all his fault and how he feels his feelings and boohoo... all of that popped up in AC
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-03 01:48:39
I know that.

Yeah, it was an exaggeration to say he was Zack in the original FF7.  But he was definitely more lively and vibrant than his AC self.  If his AC personality had gone through the original FF7, he would've done many things differently.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Hermoor II on 2009-10-03 09:31:15
Kuja is the best of all of them. At least for me, he is the only character that can stay in air forever. And he has good magic attacks that works both in close quaters as well as on a distance. The only thing that is bad about the character is the voice...
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-03 10:10:48
Yeah, his voice is terrible.  He actually sounds gay, which goes with the outfit.  Again, just to clarify, I've nothing against homosexuals.  But the way in which he dresses up is just >.<
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-03 17:22:22
Kuja is the best of all of them. At least for me, he is the only character that can stay in air forever. And he has good magic attacks that works both in close quaters as well as on a distance. The only thing that is bad about the character is the voice...

The way dissidia works, everyone can stay in the air indefinately >>, anyhow I find his attacks fairly slow and easy to dodge, if he misses flare star you will have no problem taking him right down.


I wish they changed Omni-slash in the AC outfit to AC Omni-slash. (Swords in air, enemy in middle, 15 random hits...) That would be soooooo awsome...
Omnislash version 5 (what he uses in AC) is and hp attack you get when you master one of the aerial bravaery attacks (its a continuation of it)
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-04 00:24:47
Kuja is the best of all of them. At least for me, he is the only character that can stay in air forever. And he has good magic attacks that works both in close quaters as well as on a distance. The only thing that is bad about the character is the voice...

The way dissidia works, everyone can stay in the air indefinately >>, anyhow I find his attacks fairly slow and easy to dodge, if he misses flare star you will have no problem taking him right down.


I wish they changed Omni-slash in the AC outfit to AC Omni-slash. (Swords in air, enemy in middle, 15 random hits...) That would be soooooo awsome...
Omnislash version 5 (what he uses in AC) is and hp attack you get when you master one of the aerial bravaery attacks (its a continuation of it)

Finishing Touch is also a result of a mastered BRV attk.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-04 03:37:57
Yeah, his voice is terrible.  He actually sounds gay, which goes with the outfit.  Again, just to clarify, I've nothing against homosexuals.  But the way in which he dresses up is just >.<

Kuja would choose the thong over the epic black cape in a villain costume shop. ^^
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-04 03:44:49
He certainly broke tradition as an antagonist, I'll give him that...
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-04 03:54:00
h'okay, so i've beaten teh game, (save for inward chaos, and the gabranth chapter). By in large, the game held through very well. decent difficulty (unless you leveled up), a fair degree of balance between characters, and each had advantages over others. However, (i'll test this out over sometime playing with friends) the only significant technique that will garner an advantage in combat is good timing on blocks and dodges. As most attacks are fairly easily dodged, (some more than others) I've noticed many battles that are a long string of misses.  when you block an attack though, the opponent staggers, allowing for an opening, and at higherlevels, can easily result in a quick victory.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-04 03:59:23
*MOAN*  I want this game!! :-(
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-04 04:09:42
*MOAN*  I want this game!! :-(
Go buy it! lol
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-04 04:12:31
No!  I'd have to buy a PSP first!  I mean, I can afford it but... what if I get addicted and start neglecting my real life and things start going downhill and... AAARRRGGHH!!!
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-10-04 04:15:28
No!  I'd have to buy a PSP first!  I mean, I can afford it but... what if I get addicted and start neglecting my real life and things start going downhill and... AAARRRGGHH!!!

You sound like me when I was debating whether I should play WoW or not. :lol: Come on it's not a drug ye know. :-P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-04 04:20:13
WoW is the one thing I immediately resolved never to turn to.  I hardly ever felt tempted.

How strong am I!? :-D

*We're going off-topic*
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: hotdog963al on 2009-10-04 12:04:33
I thought it was a cool idea, but it's so ridiculous. I can't figure out what the fuck is happening half of the time.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-04 22:29:38
One thing about Firion I noticed, stay in the air and cast Blizzard OVER and OVER and OVER again, you won't move out of that spot.


WoW is the one thing I immediately resolved never to turn to.  I hardly ever felt tempted.

*We're going off-topic*

WoW can easily be put out of mind and ignored...just play an FF game for a few days  :-P Yea we are going off topic...then again...off topic section.

Kuja is the best of all of them. At least for me, he is the only character that can stay in air forever. And he has good magic attacks that works both in close quarters as well as on a distance. The only thing that is bad about the character is the voice...

Kuja is good, but I can't play him for crap really. I've been playing as Bartz and Sephiroth for a little while...also got an artifact Armor; Named it Zeidrich  :mrgreen:

I finished Chapter 1,2, and started 3 for Shade Impulse, getting there. Also I noticed in Bartz Ex-Burst (Rapid-Fire-Spellblade-Duel Wield; he says "Four Essences!" and then at the end of the Burst, he'll use the Brave Sword, one of the best items in FF5 unless you used the chicken Dagger...

Memory's, huh?
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-05 09:44:38
Hate to break this to you... i before e.  That rule applies to "Ziedrich" as well :-D  At least in FF7PC.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: nfitc1 on 2009-10-08 17:53:47
When this game was announced I made sure that I would have a PSP by the time it came out. I got mine last Christmas with Crisis Core and Star Ocean remake. When Dissidia came out I was still playing Star Ocean. Then I got Star Ocean 2 remake instead of Dissidia. :( BUT I just got it last week and I've been playing it almost every free minute I get. It's addicting even though I haven't done everything there is to do yet.

Voice acting is bad. Not all the voices, but the delivery is terrible in most lines. They tend to pause every five or six words and just stand there. Or they'll say split-second words like "What?!" and keep moving for a full two seconds after they've said that. VAing is an art in video games that has yet to be perfected. I pray for the day....

I've only played as a few characters but I've already gotten some opinions about them:

Warrior of Light: Generic kind of guy. Pretty balanced. Not great at anything.
Firion: It's annoying that he only has one HP attack for the first 20 or so levels. I've gotten him to level 8 but couldn't stand him. Terrible air Bravery attacks. He's definitely better on the ground.
Onion Knight: He's smaller than the others, but his bravery hits kind of weak even though it's multi-hit. I guess it makes it easier to get those "Critical hit in 10 sec" DP bonuses.
Cecil: "Seh-sul"? Really? I always said it "See-sul". Anyway. His class changes bugged me. He's better as the Paladin. Dark Knight has mostly close-range moves and doesn't travel far.
Cloud: Hits hard, but recovers terribly! Maybe it's just me, but almost all the opponents I've faced recover about twice as fast as Cloud does. They block, Cloud Staggers, BAM! Riposte devours my Bravery. :( He moves pretty slow too, but the Omni Air Dash makes him seem like Superman.
Zidane: Runs fast and at a low level has a good mix of close/range attacks.

I have yet to play as any of the villians, but every time I fight Golbez, Sephiroth, or Jeckt they usually end up flattening me if I'm less than 10 levels above them. The others are easy to avoid (except Kefka's stupid Ice).

It also bugs me that even at low levels, the CPU opponent has access to all their attacks from every level.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-10-08 18:30:33
I hated seh-sul and zih-dahn and tee-dus
It should be see-sul, zie-dane, and tie-dus.  I've been speaking English long enough to know how to pronounce words.  (side note: mah-ko should definitely be may-ko, but that's a complaint for a different thread)

I literally RAPED Kefka in Terra's story.  I don't know if I'm just really good with her... but he never touched me.  Actually, she's become one of my favorites.


And oh yes, the voice acting.  Those 2 second pauses nearly drive me insane.   @Squeenix, look, I realize the mouth movements from the Japanese script will not line up with the English script.  But for christ sake, it's not like their lip movements are anything other than a 3 different sets of textures being applied at different times.  I could care less if it sync's perfectly, at least make it sound normal  :|
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-08 18:37:38
I literally RAPED Kefka in Terra's story.

Literally?

This I have to see!

I always knew Terra was into femdom :-P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-10-08 19:28:45
I hated seh-sul and zih-dahn and tee-dus
It should be see-sul, zie-dane, and tie-dus.  I've been speaking English long enough to know how to pronounce words.  (side note: mah-ko should definitely be may-ko, but that's a complaint for a different thread)
I agree with you for the Tidus and Mako part, but i always imageined zidane as Zih-dan or Zih-dane, and Cecil as Seh-sul
While that's been brought up, ami the only person thought it was Yuh-fee instead of You-fee, and Tih-fah instead of Tee-fah? also Wuh-tai instead of Woo-tai :P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-08 19:36:36
ami the only person thought it was Yuh-fee instead of You-fee, and Tih-fah instead of Tee-fah? also Wuh-tai instead of Woo-tai :P

Yes! Weirdo! :-P

Actually, I always thought it was Yuh-fee, since vowels that come before two consonants tend to be short and ones that come before one tend to be long. For the same reason, I always thought of the first syllable of Tifa's name as being pronounced like "tea" and the first syllable of mako was pronounced like "May".

I stand by my pronunciations and declare that the official ones are wrong! :lol:

Also, surely Zidane is pronounced like the name of the head-butting French footballer?
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: nfitc1 on 2009-10-08 20:09:50
Also, surely Zidane is pronounced like the name of the head-butting French footballer?

That's probably why they say it differently. :(

And WHY, in the whole of Kingdom Hearts, is Vivi the only representative of FFIX?! At least as far as I know this is true.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-08 20:44:48
Maybe the whole names were do to bad transaltion? Spelt perfectly but said differently.  Zidanes name REALLY bothered me, special the way Squall's voice actor says it....xD

I literally RAPED Kefka in Terra's story.

Literally?

This I have to see!

I always knew Terra was into femdom :-P

I've been trying out Terra but I want to level her a little, ad of course Terra is into a femdon :P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-10-08 23:00:19
And WHY, in the whole of Kingdom Hearts, is Vivi the only representative of FFIX?! At least as far as I know this is true.
As far as i know, Nomura was never supposed to put in any characters from FFIX. I read once that he said he "took a gamble" or something similar when he added setzer and Vivi, because they were characters that he didn't design. I guess they needed a couple of filler characters for a sort of comedic value in the struggle tournament rounds, and they were strapped for character ideas, hence Vivi made a cameo.
...i think.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-08 23:26:13
Back to the topic of Dissidia, I stumbled upon this (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=939394&topic=51361994) during a google search the other day :-D

The link goes to another forum, where they've been talking about mishearing the battle quotes in the English version of Dissidia.  For instance, Exdeath saying "Get the fruit!", or "Tasty arrow!", or Jecht making Chewbacca noises.  Some of it's pretty funny :lol:

And I believe when they added Vivi to KHII, they made him possessed by a nobody because it parallels the storyline of FFIX in some way... though that is just something I read, and I haven't played FFIX.  I seem to recall coming across that on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki.

One thing I found interesting about Kingdom Hearts is how they distort the personalities of the Final Fantasy characters.  They don't change them completely, but still.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: obesebear on 2009-10-09 01:52:33
Back to the topic of pronunciations,

Tifa = Tee-fuh

Mako = May-ko

Yuffie = You-fee  (I too pronounced it Yuh-fee, but the new pronunciation has grown on me  :-P)

Zidane = Zie-DANE (Dane being stressed because there is no way ANYONE can get "dahn" out of Zidane)

Tidus = Tie-dus  (off the top of my head, I can't think of any examples in English where a lone 'i' makes and 'ee' sound)

Ultimecia = Ul-tih-mee-see-ah

Chocobo = Cho-ko-bo

Arguments are welcome  :-)


Oh, almost forgot one
Aerith = Ehr-es  lol
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-09 03:06:29
I'm used to pronouncing Ultimecia "Ul-teh-meh-see-ah", but in Dissidia, they pronounce it "Ul-tih-mee-sha".

Zidane is pronounced "Zi-dahn".  Tidus is pronounced "Tee-dis".  Neither of these sound right, but that's the way they've done it.

I've seen a youtube comment once that said "contrary to popular belief", Sephiroth is pronounced "Sef-er-roth", not "Sep-her-roth".  I mean, he's right about the real pronunciation... but was that EVER the "popular belief"?  I'm pretty sure it wasn't...

I would've thought pronouncing Yuffie "You-fee" would be a given... perhaps I was wrong.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-09 03:33:43
I don't like "tee-des" nor "mah-ko". I prefer "Tie-dus" and "May-ko".  :-)
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-09 05:43:47
We didn't know how to pronounce Tidus's name for a while because they never said it in the voiceovers of FFX!! :x :x :x
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-09 05:53:45
We didn't know how to pronounce Tidus's name for a while because they never said it in the voiceovers of FFX!! :x :x :x
True dude. But Tie-dus sounds better now doesn't it?  :-D
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-09 09:36:52
I've always thought that it MUST be "Tide-us".  So like, you can hear the word "tide" in there.  I've always associated Tidus with water, since he is one of the three "underwater" characters, he's a professional aquatic sport player, and his Brotherhood weapon, when powered up, deals water-elemental damage.

Similarly, I associate nearly all Final Fantasy characters with elements.  It's a strange habit, come to think of it.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: ye-roon on 2009-10-09 11:35:32
i always prenouced tifa with the a sound like the a in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah but then short. wich is the way the a is prenounced in dutch. Wich sounds the same as people eventually prenounced her name in advent children. so i was happy.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: yoshi314 on 2009-10-09 20:16:48
Quote
The link goes to another forum, where they've been talking about mishearing the battle quotes in the English version of Dissidia.
i could have sworn i heard warrior of light say the  f-word during some moves. now, that was pretty bizarre ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzN4KKUp2IY at 0:04 - 0:06 .

Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Costa07 on 2009-10-09 23:05:01
Oh f*** I think he does say it  :lol:
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-10-10 02:01:15
Typical of an uncivilized warrior :-P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: nfitc1 on 2009-10-13 15:38:36
I'm used to pronouncing Ultimecia "Ul-teh-meh-see-ah", but in Dissidia, they pronounce it "Ul-tih-mee-sha".

I'm still burned by the whole "Lue-cre-tzi-a" thing from DoC. I always thought it was "Lue-cree-sha" BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT'S SPELLED!!!!
"Ul-tih-mee-sha" I can see, but I still think the way you do.

Tidus being "tee-duhs" I can almost understand because he's named "Teeda" (more-or-less) in Japanese. It's too close to the ancient roman "Titus" which I've always heard pronounced "tie-dus" because of my Southern US drawl.

This is my biggest problem with VAing. They almost never pronounce words the way I've been thinking them in my head for years. Although TotA got "sentient" correct, at least. Johnny Yong Bosh VAs good, but he shouldn't have given in when they told him to say "tee-duhs". At least he's not pausing every four words like Cloud.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-10-13 16:38:27
I'm still burned by the whole "Lue-cre-tzi-a" thing from DoC. I always thought it was "Lue-cree-sha" BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT'S SPELLED!!!!
Just to throw this out there, for some reason, i always thought it was "lue-cree-see-a", probably because i was a little kid when i first played FF7 and the name just stuck.
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-10-13 23:38:01
For me its

Tidus = Tea-Dus
Tifa = Tea-Fa
Zidane = Za-da-n     (Da+N = like Cane just with a D instead of a C)
Mako = May-Ko


And just to through this out there:

VIVI IS THE DEATH!!!!!! Should have put him in Dissdia :P
Title: Re: Thoughts About DISSIDA
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-10-14 01:05:28
I've always thought that it MUST be "Tide-us".  So like, you can hear the word "tide" in there.  I've always associated Tidus with water, since he is one of the three "underwater" characters, he's a professional aquatic sport player, and his Brotherhood weapon, when powered up, deals water-elemental damage.

Similarly, I associate nearly all Final Fantasy characters with elements.  It's a strange habit, come to think of it.

Don't feel bad, i always thought thats what it was, then i played kingdom hearts and he said tea-dus and i thought "Waahh? haha
Title: Re: Thoughts About -Final Fantasy- DISSIDIA!
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-14 01:31:39
well given the trend, terra, cloud squall, having tide incorporated in his name would fit a trend of natural based names, water too if you exclude terra