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Hello, I'm new here. I hope my English is good enough for you to understand me because is not my native language (the funny thing is that I learned most of it playing FF7 and Zelda <.< )
I wanted to play FF7 with enhanced graphics and sound so I downloaded the **TABU NAME**. After a while I found better mods but only for the full game, so I'm going to install my full game but I don't know what I need to know before download/install any mod, like: mod order, programs needed (saw something about LGPTools), patches? (1.02 and the Chocobos one is enough?).
Also I want to know which ones are the best graphic mods, I see that there are for HD, colour depth, resolution, enhanced characters and NPC graphics, enhanced map/field graphics etc. What I want is to upgrade the quality of the game keeping the battle/materia/magic/limit/etc systems intact.
EDIT: Thanks for the help, close this thread if you want.
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PIRATE!!!!
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We don't support the ultima edition of ff7 on this forum, as it is pirated. so....
Step one to upgrading ff7 - get a legal copy.
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You better listen to timu. He is a wizard.
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Does that mean... he did.... IT?!!?!
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There are quite many Mods for this heres a few im using at the moment :)
NPC Reconstruction
Newapzcloud
Advent Avatars
New spells
These can be found on this website or fileshare etc i dont have any hi-res at the moment or v1.02 because ive just started modding my game but im sure the others on this forums can be more of help then me :)
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PIRATE!!!!
We don't support the ultima edition of ff7 on this forum, as it is pirated. so....
Step one to upgrading ff7 - get a legal copy.
I have a legal copy, I downloaded the UE to play on Windows 7 and with non-SD characters before knowing about a patch to make the legal copy work on XP/Vista/W7 and about the many mods out there... sorry for asking here, bye.
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Ok :L
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For starters: get aali's driver and learn the ropes of his lgptools, ask around in a few threads, experiment, etc.
After that I highly recommend GUI overhaul found in the Team Avalanche forum. After that there are smaller (but still incredibly awesome) mods like millenia's weapons, the superawesome cloud and barret battle models, and of course, the NPC PRP.
Other mods to look at: ff7music (takes a bit of doing to make it run smoothly), bike mini game redux, full screen start menu by nero, icon redux, and the diamond weapon redux
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il check that allis out too got alot to look up for making my final fantasy 7 a better game :D cant wait for other mods to come out too woot this will be nice to see a total upgrade for ff7 :D i wish there was a final fantasy Vii-2 :)
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PIRATE!!!!
We don't support the ultima edition of ff7 on this forum, as it is pirated. so....
Step one to upgrading ff7 - get a legal copy.
I have a legal copy, I downloaded the UE to play on Windows 7 and with non-SD characters before knowing about a patch to make the legal copy work on XP/Vista/W7 and about the many mods out there... sorry for asking here, bye.
None the less, you still pirated the game. Even if you have legally the discs you went and downloaded a pirated version of the game. Which in all honesty I don't under stand why, Ultima is a really crappy version I hear.... All kinds of bugs.
il check that allis out too got alot to look up for making my final fantasy 7 a better game :D cant wait for other mods to come out too woot this will be nice to see a total upgrade for ff7 :D i wish there was a final fantasy Vii-2 :)
Technically you could consider AC to be VII-2
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Ok he pirated, but he can't do any modding with a pirated copy and yes there are moral issues but the integrity or legal security of the site isn't at sake quit riding his ass. Good luck in your research, you'd be surprised how much has been accomplished in the past year using aali's driver and the hard work and will of the members here. I'd say 90% of everything is redone save battle models and areas and field textures. The only one you'd notice though is the field textures which are being worked on very hard by Team Avalanche but there's a lot to be done there.
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:) true the people running this site and the team are working hard with these mods to make this like a version of square enix company remake i think theyve done well tbh all the mods ive seen everyone has been working very hard to try make there final fantasy amazing good and bug free thanks for everyones help :P
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on that note, i beleive (as far as TA is concerned) we're making it very unlike how square enix would remake the game... They' likely keep it to compilation style (more realistic) and would probably overhaul the gameplay to be more like ff13 or crisis core.
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Ok he pirated, but he can't do any modding with a pirated copy and yes there are moral issues but the integrity or legal security of the site isn't at sake quit riding his ass. Good luck in your research, you'd be surprised how much has been accomplished in the past year using aali's driver and the hard work and will of the members here. I'd say 90% of everything is redone save battle models and areas and field textures. The only one you'd notice though is the field textures which are being worked on very hard by Team Avalanche but there's a lot to be done there.
Actually, yes he can, he just has to pirate the right version. As long as he can find a pirate version of the 4 disc game, he wins. And at this point, I'm not riding his ass for any reason, I'm just stating facts... which I should probably stop doing as it makes me come off as an asshole.
on that note, i beleive (as far as TA is concerned) we're making it very unlike how square enix would remake the game... They' likely keep it to compilation style (more realistic) and would probably overhaul the gameplay to be more like ff13 or crisis core.
You know, I honestly wouldn't mind too much a remake similar to crisis core. However it wouldn't be VII.
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true but still how there making is what is kinda what i was expecting i think they have ruined final fantasy now i didnt like ff12 or 11 not sure where u run about and slash them and 13 i dont like as much because it has auto battle where you dont have a strategy and the comp does it for you secondly all summons are robots i didnt like this due to the game mostly being monster based :L and i liked it were the earth was in danger like in 7,8,9 :D ff9 was just a lil different but not far off :) but anyway my point is that these ff7 mods are how i expected square to make it but your right they wouldnt have made a remake as i would thought :P but anyway this guy has left the forums so it doesnt matter if he has a coppied version or not you can still run the mods on it and that is that aslong as hes happy who gives a bull
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but anyway this guy has left the forums so it doesnt matter if he has a coppied version or not you can still run the mods on it and that is that aslong as hes happy who gives a bull
The point here is, pirating is bad. So if he has a pirated copy, I'm not going to help him. If you're going to pirate, you should either 1, not make it blatantly obvious at LEAST, or 2 not ask for help altogether.
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lemme ask you a question
Why do you care so much? because if he gets in trouble for his pirated copy then thats his fault not ours but im just saying if he is happy with what he does why bother? it makes me laugh tbh because if he gets caught then tough bull i mean the only reason im saying is because he was probally just looking for a mod update not a new game hehe :P i also know your going to say you dont care but still why bother with this post we all know pirating is wrong but some of us choose to do this on our own terms ^^ but im being honest its true i dont like piraters either but you dont have to be so harsh about it :L
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lemme ask you a question
Why do you care so much? because if he gets in trouble for his pirated copy then thats his fault not ours but im just saying if he is happy with what he does why bother? it makes me laugh tbh because if he gets caught then tough bull i mean the only reason im saying is because he was probally just looking for a mod update not a new game hehe :P
Because the forum rules say it doesn't support pirated copies...
It's not that i care so much, as i said, I'm just stating facts.
<< I also said i should stop doing that too....
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obviously i know your just stating facts but this guy is new to the forums and he probally doesnt no any better im just saying i g2g in min cuz got college tomoz but still if he didnt know that maybe the site should put up a list of rules before you enter it lol :) but still i kno what you mean we ought to change the subject he posted this hours ago ^^ so i rekon a new subject is in order kk?
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Anyway, personally one of my favorite things to do modding FFVII is making my own mods. Like replacing materia and such. If you wanna do that you should look up WallMarket and ProudClod ... or even Hojo... fun programs.
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wouldnt mind that :D hehe i love ff its my most faviourite game im so glad there are forums like this to dicuss with other people like you me and many others to make mods have fun and enjoy this game but thx for today i was just sitting here for a few hours watching my brothers and sisters while chatting on this was fun but i g2g a sec kk night people thx for today lol also if i cud add friends send me friend request cuz i need help too with mods etc if you guys wouldnt mind hehe anyway il post once more then go but thx. anyway goodnight everyone hehe :P gl with modding and maybe tomorrow once im online someone can give me a hand with modelling xtracting etc :) night hehe
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Hello, I'm new here. I hope my English is good enough for you to understand me because is not my native language (the funny thing is that I learned most of it playing FF7 and Zelda <.< )
I wanted to play FF7 with enhanced graphics and sound so I downloaded the **TABU NAME**. After a while I found better mods but only for the full game, so I'm going to install my full game[/b] but I don't know what I need to know before download/install any mod, like: mod order, programs needed (saw something about LGPTools), patches? (1.02 and the Chocobos one is enough?).
Also I want to know which ones are the best graphic mods, I see that there are for HD, colour depth, resolution, enhanced characters and NPC graphics, enhanced map/field graphics etc. What I want is to upgrade the quality of the game keeping the battle/materia/magic/limit/etc systems intact.
Didn't know it was the full game with murdered movies before downloading it, I thought it was THE mod with enhanced graphics and a patch that let's you play on W7 (around 500MB against 4CD (2GB+) of the original, what would you think?). I tried to run my legal copy three times before but didn't work because I didn't know about the freaking patch, that's why I download the UE thinking it was THE ONLY MOD, and with a patch that let's you play the game on XP/Vista/W7.
PIRATE!!!!
Obviously you didn't even read what comes after the red sentence of the quote before posting that.
We don't support the ultima edition of ff7 on this forum, as it is pirated. so....
Step one to upgrading ff7 - get a legal copy.
Another one that didn't read the entire post before commenting
You better listen to timu. He is a wizard.
... didn't even glance at the first post.
In short, I have the legal copy of FF7 and installed, I never asked for help for the UE.
Thanks for the people who reads before posting.
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No, we read the post, and to us, it sounded like you downloaded the game FFVII ultima edition. Which would be a game, not a patch. Which would mean you pirated. It in no way sounds to me reading that that you only downloaded it thinking it was a patch. and just to let you know, EDITIONS are usually new versions of a game, not patches. Which would mean you just downloaded a pirate copy of the game, unless for some reason the original producer was just letting people download it for free (which i think happened at one point with a certain game i cant remember.)
And through this I personally don't believe you actually HAVE the original game as usually people download the ultima edition, find they can't use mods with it, and then go download the original version. HOWEVER this is personal opinion. I'm not trying to attack you here. In fact, you very well could have the original game for computer. However, through personal experience, as explained above, I doubt it.
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Lots of stuff
I apologize. There have been a lot of new members lately asking for help with the Ultima Edition. Which (as you have amptly seen) isn't allowed here. So stating that you downloaded it makes some people quit reading the rest of your post, because hey..we aren't going to help anyways.
First get Aali's driver, then download the Team Avalanche installer, then FF7 Music.
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srry bout dat :3
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Why do you care so much? because if he gets in trouble for his pirated copy then thats his fault not ours but im just saying if he is happy with what he does why bother? it makes me laugh tbh because if he gets caught then tough bull i mean the only reason im saying is because he was probally just looking for a mod update not a new game hehe i also know your going to say you dont care but still why bother with this post we all know pirating is wrong but some of us choose to do this on our own terms ^^ but im being honest its true i dont like piraters either but you dont have to be so harsh about it :L
Because QHIMM is the home of the Avalanche Project, and its members are cautious enough about incurring Square's wrath as it is. Remember the Chrono Remake project? The last thing we need to do is appear to tacitly support piracy if Square rummage through our posts as part of an investigation. We do not need to give them excuses to close down Q-Gears which, though it should be theoretically safe, is nevertheless on shaky ground.
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Yeah, there's a tendency here to see the words "Ultima Edition" and immediately write an angry response. A lot of this is because there are so many people who come here asking about the Ultima Edition without realising that, as well as being illegal, it is also obsolete, that people get sick of hearing about it and don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, it looks like it might be a long time before people on the Internet realise that downloading the Ultima Edition is not the easiest way to play FF7 on the PC; people who don't come to these forums tend to be behind the times by about five years when it comes to mods.
Now I'll answer your question.
The first mods you should use are the FF7 1.02 patch and Aali's custom graphics driver; these are the two things you need to use before you can play the game properly and new mods are designed for people who are using both. Once you've got them and have FF7 working, it's really up to you what you want to do with the game. If you want it to be harder, use gjoerulv's hardcore mod (although you're OP suggests you might not want to do that). If you want the game to look better, use Team Avalanche's mod. AFAIK, they both work together. YAMP is also useful, as is FF7 music (unfortunately, FF7 music is hard to get working.
If you want to make your own mods, NFITC1's tools come highly recommended, as does Hojo 1.1 and Loveless. I haven't used titeguy3's "white chocobo" or Bosola's "LiBre", you I'm sure they'll come in handy as well. Lgp tools is useful when you're dealing with .lgp archives and graphics mods. There's others as well; it depends on what exactly you want to do.
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I apologize. There have been a lot of new members lately asking for help with the Ultima Edition. Which (as you have amptly seen) isn't allowed here. So stating that you downloaded it makes some people quit reading the rest of your post, because hey..we aren't going to help anyways.
First get Aali's driver, then download the Team Avalanche installer, then FF7 Music.
Yeah, there's a tendency here to see the words "Ultima Edition" and immediately write an angry response. A lot of this is because there are so many people who come here asking about the Ultima Edition without realising that, as well as being illegal, it is also obsolete, that people get sick of hearing about it and don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, it looks like it might be a long time before people on the Internet realise that downloading the Ultima Edition is not the easiest way to play FF7 on the PC; people who don't come to these forums tend to be behind the times by about five years when it comes to mods.
Now I'll answer your question.
The first mods you should use are the FF7 1.02 patch and Aali's custom graphics driver; these are the two things you need to use before you can play the game properly and new mods are designed for people who are using both. Once you've got them and have FF7 working, it's really up to you what you want to do with the game. If you want it to be harder, use gjoerulv's hardcore mod (although you're OP suggests you might not want to do that). If you want the game to look better, use Team Avalanche's mod. AFAIK, they both work together. YAMP is also useful, as is FF7 music (unfortunately, FF7 music is hard to get working.
If you want to make your own mods, NFITC1's tools come highly recommended, as does Hojo 1.1 and Loveless. I haven't used titeguy3's "white chocobo" or Bosola's "LiBre", you I'm sure they'll come in handy as well. Lgp tools is useful when you're dealing with .lgp archives and graphics mods. There's others as well; it depends on what exactly you want to do.
Thank you...
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I can vouch for titeguy's White Choco, its pretty good if you are looking to mess with the shops.
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I just don't get all of the hostility. So there's a pirated copy mentioned here, it doesn't need to be met with flames, just ignore it. Mods won't work on it and they'll find nothing in this community worth using or working on. You can be a white knight and all and that's great but pretty soon you'll be pushing away possible future contributers who were just wanting to play their favorite game but wanted to get out of paying 100 dollars to have it on PC when they already bought it for the playstation twice.
You can have morals on piracy but the game has long since been out of production, meaning there are ZERO royalties being paid to ENIX and the developers. It's just legalities that do play a somewhat necessary role that make pirating this game taboo. Basically: follow the rules to keep this site from being shut down, but don't go out of your way to be an unhelpful ass to newcomers who may not know all of the rules.
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I just don't get all of the hostility. So there's a pirated copy mentioned here, it doesn't need to be met with flames, just ignore it. Mods won't work on it and they'll find nothing in this community worth using or working on. You can be a white knight and all and that's great but pretty soon you'll be pushing away possible future contributers who were just wanting to play their favorite game but wanted to get out of paying 100 dollars to have it on PC when they already bought it for the playstation twice.
You can have morals on piracy but the game has long since been out of production, meaning there are ZERO royalties being paid to ENIX and the developers. It's just legalities that do play a somewhat necessary role that make pirating this game taboo. Basically: follow the rules to keep this site from being shut down, but don't go out of your way to be an unhelpful ass to newcomers who may not know all of the rules.
Squeenix is ridiculously litigious; they're the kind of company who are wont to send C&Ds just because they can, even if they're not being harmed and even when no laws are being broken (yes, companies can and do send C&Ds to people who aren't doing anything illegal because most people will back down rather than spend time and money defending themselves; the Bleem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Controversy) fiasco is an example of what big corporations can do to people even if when they haven't done anything wrong).
They've shut down many CT projects and we never know when they may decide to cause trouble here. Discouraging piracy might increase the chances of them turning a blind eye to what's going on here.
Also, as I said, people tend to react badly to questions that get asked over and over again, even if the people asking them have no idea that they've been asked before. We keep getting people coming here and talking about the Ultima Edition, so after a while people lose patience and get angry as soon as they hear those words.
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I think the admins should make a bot user that automatically responds when they detect certain words in early posters. Namely: ultima, pirate, problem, etc.
It replies immediately with a post outlining rules and the situation the forum is in playing under the twitchy trigger finger of a large corporation and to read the rules thoroughly and adhering to them strictly before posting again.
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Yes. That sounds like a good idea.
The thing to keep in mind is, it doesn't matter whether what's done here will cause SE any real financial loss. Companies will send out C&Ds by default the moment anything that appears to harm the 'goodwill' of the IPs surfaces. SE has a habit of this, and, in fairness, is well within its rights to do so. There's too much at stake. Especially as there's reason to think Square staff may visit this website from time to time (I'm sure El Ammo Bandito posted something to that effect - a small but consistent number of visitors from Square-Enix). Let's not irritate them.
Thanks for the people who reads before posting.
And thank you, son, for spending seconds reading the forum rules before posting. Oh wait.
You see, you might ask why I'm so irritated, but I see similar kinds of rubbish all the time, not least on places like GameFAQs. Not the piracy stuff, but the attitude. Speaking generally, there's usually a typical pattern: People show up, demand attention NAU (and bump their threads every ninety seconds to clamour for immediate attention), for nothing in return, and then have the cheek to start getting ****** when they're rightly scolded for not RTFM. IRL, I'd be tempted to grab them by the collar, speaking loudly and clearly:
"YOU are asking for OUR help. YOU are offering NOTHING in return. YOU are demanding that WE spend several minutes of OUR time, when YOU can't even be bothered to consult the forum rules! YOU should get your head around the fact that YOU should be pretty ******* deferential, all that considered!"
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Thanks for the people who reads before posting.
And thank you, son, for spending seconds reading the forum rules before posting. Oh wait.
You see, you might ask why I'm so irritated, but I see similar kinds of rubbish all the time, not least on places like GameFAQs. Not the piracy stuff, but the attitude. Speaking generally, there's usually a typical pattern: People show up, demand attention NAU (and bump their threads every ninety seconds to clamour for immediate attention), for nothing in return, and then have the cheek to start getting ****** when they're rightly scolded for not RTFM. IRL, I'd be tempted to grab them by the collar, speaking loudly and clearly:
"YOU are asking for OUR help. YOU are offering NOTHING in return. YOU are demanding that WE spend several minutes of OUR time, when YOU can't even be bothered to consult the forum rules! YOU should get your head around the fact that YOU should be pretty ******* deferential, all that considered!"
I wasn't the one who bumped the thread every 20 seconds, when I was going to preview my third message I got the red message saying that there where 5 new replies already ¬¬
Yes, I asked for help, I did never demanded to anyone to help me, I ASKED.
And I read the rules and didn't broke them.
No linking to/discussion of/advertising of illegal downloads, including FFVII **TABU NAME**.
I didn't post any link related to it, didn't even talk about it for more than the first sentence as simple comment(*), I just mentioned it... I didn't expect such reaction for just naming it.
*Then all started talking about it in every corner ¬¬
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No matter. If you fancy better graphics, you should do a forum search for the 'NPC Restoration Patch'. These just change in-field models (which are usually cited as the ugliest). There's no change to mechanics etc., so that's a good starting point. I've used it myself; it gives FF7 about the same sort of detail in the field as 8.
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Ignoring the arguement section of this thread and moving on to the actual info he/she needs:
I think the common list of patches/mods you typically want are along the lines of this:
1:chocobo patch
2:YAMP
3:aali's driver
4:1.02 patch (i think aali's driver makes that obsolete, check to make sure)
5:NPC recon patch OR Rejuvination patch (both enhance the character models)
6:Apz's cloud model (kuz it kicks ass)
7:Wallmarket (in case you like to make and change anything in battle)
8:I'll have to see if there is an 8....in fact, why the hell did I even bother pushing the "post" button...
EDIT: My apologies, I did not realise that Kudis said pretty much everything I just did.
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EDIT: My apologies, I did not realise that Kudis said pretty much everything I just did.
;D
Also, the Chocobo patch is no longer needed IIRC; the custom graphics driver fixes all of the glitches