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Title: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: FelixTheTwilight on 2010-05-10 17:44:29
Greetings everyone. I know this is not Allowed 100% but I don't know where to post it/Request it.

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Guys I've search ALL sites to find Final Fantasy 7 AC Game Remake as I hear it's a game but I didn't find it....

If it's not a game then, Can someone Give me a Real good Final Fantasy 7 PC Working? I don't want to download 2/1 Giga Bite for nothing..

And where I can find the AC Mods? All of them?
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~Thanks, I'm new here though.
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Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-10 17:45:28
*sigh*
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-10 17:57:14
*sigh*
Quoted for truth
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: FelixTheTwilight on 2010-05-10 18:04:33
Knock it off already, just say something. I told you I don't know anything if I knew why then did I ask?

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Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-10 18:17:24
Hey! You want to know what I usually do when I want to learn something.  I search for information.  Then, if it's so damn complicated that I can't figure it out, I ask.   

You have unfortunately done things in the wrong order.  Help yourself, then ask for help
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-10 18:20:21
civility

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=9430.0

Piracy is not allowed. Go purchase the game. We will not tell you how to get it illegally.

As for the fact of you not knowing anything that is no excuse. There is this fancy little too called a search function that you can use. Now if you have questions that could not be answered with a simple search we would be glad to help you, otherwise look around for what you are looking for.

/civility
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: FelixTheTwilight on 2010-05-10 18:27:51
Fine, I did I only knew 2 things: This installer of Final Fantasy 7 Remix AND Final Fantasy 7 PC MUST BE BOTH Installed in my Computer, right...?

Alright what next?

NOTE: Sorry guys... I really didn't mean to bother you.

Question: Must be Purchase though? can't I download it from a Trrent version or something..?
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-10 18:30:33
You can do whatever you wish, but if you expect people to help you i would suggest that you purchase the game.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: FelixTheTwilight on 2010-05-10 18:36:15
You're the best, Thanks bud.

Alright I'll download the Game tonight and after 2 days I'll download the Remix Patch. and put them all in one file as I've read.

Then I'll search the AC Mod right? <I'll search it now> after that I could have fun.

Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Furzball on 2010-05-10 19:24:25
You're killing us dude.

Seriously go buy the game. If you want to download it so bad I seriously suggest you send a donation/game payment check to SE at the very least. At least then in my book you should be free and clear. Oh, and if the downloaded version has Aids dont blame us.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-10 19:27:04
My download version didn't have aids lol.

If you want, I can send you the links.

So wait, why do you guys suggest we buy the game rather than download it?
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Playhazard on 2010-05-10 19:45:23
My download version didn't have aids lol.

If you want, I can send you the links.

So wait, why do you guys suggest we buy the game rather than download it?
You sir...are an idiot...YOU PURCHASE THE GAME BECAUSE *Drumroll* The torrented versions like "ULTIMA" edition...are completely bullshit.  You have a chance to be downloading 1 or 2 gigs worth of virus' that murder your computer, not to mention you could land yourself a pretty fine from the fed's.  We tell you to purchase it because WE DON'T WANT TO BE APART OF PIRACY YOU JACKASS!  God, do i have to go to your house and stamp "Dumbass" on your forehead or something?  Grow some damn braincells!
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-10 20:00:19
My download version didn't have aids lol.

If you want, I can send you the links.

So wait, why do you guys suggest we buy the game rather than download it?
You sir...are an idiot...YOU PURCHASE THE GAME BECAUSE *Drumroll* The torrented versions like "ULTIMA" edition...are completely bullsh*t.  You have a chance to be downloading 1 or 2 gigs worth of virus' that murder your computer, not to mention you could land yourself a pretty fine from the fed's.  We tell you to purchase it because WE DON'T WANT TO BE APART OF PIRACY YOU JACKASS!  God, do i have to go to your house and stamp "Dumbass" on your forehead or something?  Grow some damn braincells!

I lol'd.

1. I didn't download mine from a torrent, it was actually Mediafire links.
2. It wasn't the Ultima edition, it still requires the CDs to play.
3. It was not a virus, I've scanned it with 4 different anti-virus software.
4. It works perfectly with all the mods I have. In fact, the site where I downloaded it from was encouraging the use of these mods.
5. I didn't want to go out and pay for a (probably) rare game.
6. How would me downloading an illegal version of the game make you guys at risk?
7. You sir, are the idiot.
8. U MAD? gf noob...
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Bosola on 2010-05-10 20:07:38
There are several reasons why we do not support the 'Ultima' version.

Besides not wanting to promote piracy (because we walk a thin line with what some would call reverse-engineering efforts), we have practical reasons too: the 'Ultima edition' refers to a wide range of pirated versions of the game, many of which have been modified to reduce download time, which stops certain mods working with them.

We could, of course, spend hours and hours trying to account for the hundreds of 'Ultima editions' out there and modifying our addons appropriately - all the while taking resources away from our modding projects *AND* putting our projects at risk (because our project relies on the good will of Square-Enix) *AND* making modding all the more confusing for newcomers (who will be bombarded with contrary instructions for different 'flavours' of Ultima) - but instead we have decided that this is worth neither the time nor effort.

FFVII PC may be out of print, but it is still available for purchase here and there. And there is, of course, the PSN version - don't make the mistake of assuming that the modscene covers only the PC version.

Remember that modding and reverse engineering projects do not go unnoticed. QHIMM has himself mentioned what appear to be a steady stream of visitors from Square, and I'm sure Halkun will glady relate to you his time in court, being threatened by Sony over his PSX doc.  As I said, we walk a Very. Thin. F***ing. Line.  - and the aggro is frankly the last thing we need.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Furzball on 2010-05-10 20:11:56
I'm calling troll on this guy. Someone scoot him out the door please.

How does you downloading an illegal mod put us at risk. They take your computer in with your modded game, see where the mods come from, and some dumbash could blame us for spreading piracy.

We gotta be ninjas, not pirates.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-10 20:12:08
You buy it because SQUARE ENIX DESPERATELY NEED YOUR MONEY OMG SHEESH.
So yeah I can hardly afford every single intangible I consume and Squeenix would be about 14 miles down a physical list of people and companies I feel compelled to support. Certainly a lower priority than Devin Townsend, but nobody is arguing ethics anyway, people are arguing talking specifically about having pirated it on the public forum.

I think buying intangibles from people besides the creator when downloading for free is an option is actually negative ethics points btw, so I am actually opposed to finding FFVII for PC legally I JUST HAD TO THROW THAT IN BECAUSE I AM FEELING DOUCHEY.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Bosola on 2010-05-10 20:13:59

How does you downloading an illegal mod put us at risk...

I know Furzball is asking the question rhetorically here, but it gets asked a fair bit anyhoo, so why not answer it?

Response:
Because there is nothing actually stopping Square closing the door on us, as they did with Chrono resurrection. Square are not a "nice" company. They are not like Valve, or Bethesda, who actively encourage modding. At any rate, those are the rules. If you don't like it, suck it.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-10 20:14:32
**more nonsense**
It's times like these I wish I were an admin
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-10 20:20:30
**more nonsense**
It's times like these I wish I were an admin

I was just asking a simple question... I asked it and I was basically flamed.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: nfitc1 on 2010-05-10 20:21:20
I lol'd.

1. I didn't download mine from a torrent, it was actually Mediafire links.

Doesn't matter. Still illegal unless its YOUR LEGALLY ACQUIRED copy


2. It wasn't the Ultima edition, it still requires the CDs to play.

If you didn't BUY IT FROM AN AUTHORIZED RETAILER or A PREVIOUS OWNER then it's still illegal

3. It was not a virus, I've scanned it with 4 different anti-virus software.

Doesn't mean it's not a virus and he didn't say it was. The entire torrent could be purposefully mislabeled or contain a file that does something you don't know about. Also, virus scanners aren't 100% safe anyway.

4. It works perfectly with all the mods I have. In fact, the site where I downloaded it from was encouraging the use of these mods.

But if it DOESN'T work we're all going to point at you and laugh.

5. I didn't want to go out and pay for a (probably) rare game.

So you decided to break the law instead, eh? I don't want to pay for a PS3. I guess I'll just go to Best Buy and sneak one out.

6. How would me downloading an illegal version of the game make you guys at risk?

If we support it then that would be condoning piracy. If SE got word of that then they'd shut down the entire site for sure and the owner (Qhimm) could get in serious legal trouble like the guys at thepiratebay did for allowing it to even occur.

7. You sir, are the idiot.

Opinion which you haven't provided any good supporting evidence.

8. U MAD? gf noob...

What does that even mean?

Square are not a nice company. They are not like Valve, or Bethesda, who actively encourage modding.

It's not quite the same thing.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-10 20:31:39
I lol'd.

1. I didn't download mine from a torrent, it was actually Mediafire links.

Doesn't matter. Still illegal unless its YOUR LEGALLY ACQUIRED copy


2. It wasn't the Ultima edition, it still requires the CDs to play.

If you didn't BUY IT FROM AN AUTHORIZED RETAILER or A PREVIOUS OWNER then it's still illegal

3. It was not a virus, I've scanned it with 4 different anti-virus software.

Doesn't mean it's not a virus and he didn't say it was. The entire torrent could be purposefully mislabeled or contain a file that does something you don't know about. Also, virus scanners aren't 100% safe anyway.

4. It works perfectly with all the mods I have. In fact, the site where I downloaded it from was encouraging the use of these mods.

But if it DOESN'T work we're all going to point at you and laugh.

5. I didn't want to go out and pay for a (probably) rare game.

So you decided to break the law instead, eh? I don't want to pay for a PS3. I guess I'll just go to Best Buy and sneak one out.

6. How would me downloading an illegal version of the game make you guys at risk?

If we support it then that would be condoning piracy. If SE got word of that then they'd shut down the entire site for sure and the owner (Qhimm) could get in serious legal trouble like the guys at thepiratebay did for allowing it to even occur.

7. You sir, are the idiot.

Opinion which you haven't provided any good supporting evidence.

8. U MAD? gf noob...

What does that even mean?

Square are not a nice company. They are not like Valve, or Bethesda, who actively encourage modding.

It's not quite the same thing.

Thanks for the answers. I guess I'll go buy the game...
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Bosola on 2010-05-10 20:41:58
Quote
It's not quite the same thing.

What I am saying is: S-E are not likely to look kindly on our projects as is. They aren't especially predisposed to modders, and after the Chrono case, seem to be quite suspicious of them. As such, we really don't need to anger them, or offer them a reason to close us down. Sending a C&D is really not a difficult task, after all.

@DarkFang : You have to realize that we've been through a *lot* of threads like this, and aren't flaming *you* the individual per se, just the sort of poster who often makes this sort of query. I understand that some forums are very permissive about warez discussion, but this isn't a universal rule, and it's always a good idea to try and find out about the forum's own internal policies before posting. Still, I hope the rest of your stay at Qhimm is informative and fun.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Playhazard on 2010-05-10 20:43:25
I lol'd.

1. I didn't download mine from a torrent, it was actually Mediafire links.

Doesn't matter. Still illegal unless its YOUR LEGALLY ACQUIRED copy


2. It wasn't the Ultima edition, it still requires the CDs to play.

If you didn't BUY IT FROM AN AUTHORIZED RETAILER or A PREVIOUS OWNER then it's still illegal

3. It was not a virus, I've scanned it with 4 different anti-virus software.

Doesn't mean it's not a virus and he didn't say it was. The entire torrent could be purposefully mislabeled or contain a file that does something you don't know about. Also, virus scanners aren't 100% safe anyway.

4. It works perfectly with all the mods I have. In fact, the site where I downloaded it from was encouraging the use of these mods.

But if it DOESN'T work we're all going to point at you and laugh.

5. I didn't want to go out and pay for a (probably) rare game.

So you decided to break the law instead, eh? I don't want to pay for a PS3. I guess I'll just go to Best Buy and sneak one out.

6. How would me downloading an illegal version of the game make you guys at risk?

If we support it then that would be condoning piracy. If SE got word of that then they'd shut down the entire site for sure and the owner (Qhimm) could get in serious legal trouble like the guys at thepiratebay did for allowing it to even occur.

7. You sir, are the idiot.

Opinion which you haven't provided any good supporting evidence.

8. U MAD? gf noob...

What does that even mean?

Square are not a nice company. They are not like Valve, or Bethesda, who actively encourage modding.

It's not quite the same thing.

You're my new best friend.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Furzball on 2010-05-10 20:50:50
Finally makes sense to you. Gah

Pirating is still strongly discouraged everywhere. I highly suggest that if you do pirate stuff, find out the legalities of it and know if you're in the pot or the burner whenever they do catch you.

For example, lets just take your situation here where you want to play and mod FF7. Now say you have the original set of disks, but the install disk is broken. So the options are, go buy a new set or download a torrent. Well, from my standpoint, not really copyright if you already bought the product considering we're allowed to make backups and all that. That way if they do bust you, all you have to do is submit the original set with busted install disk. Hence, there you go, small legal battle won.

My only other issue is that I wish some company would make a way of doing P2P so that companies will get their money for stuff people download. Sorta like Itunes but for more stuff and also the use of P2P to spread network and boost download times.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: titeguy3 on 2010-05-10 21:04:18
Filesharing should just be legalized. It's not like it's less common just because it's illegal. If the government were to legalize filesharing, businesses would finally be forced to find other ways of making money off of software and get the hell off of people's backs about every goddamn thing.

But I digress, [intarweb-slap] don't request sh*t.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Furzball on 2010-05-10 21:23:22
Plus the companies wouldn't have to pay for the physical components (disks, boxes, manual paper, condoms, etc.) if they fileshared their stuff.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2010-05-11 02:40:39
Man I was too late to voice my opinion, you guys already did it for me! Ha and someone beat me to the troll call also. Dammit why am I so busy?
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Cazador on 2010-05-11 12:36:02
guys, guys.....everyone knows it's not illegal if you get it off mediafire...duhhhh
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-11 19:04:25
guys, guys.....everyone knows it's not illegal if you get it off mediafire...duhhhh

Wow you're a dick.

Just drop it.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2010-05-11 21:28:59
guys, guys.....everyone knows it's not illegal if you get it off mediafire...duhhhh

Wow you're a ice-cream.

Just drop it.

Word filters ftw! :D

Now then, stop being such a Hermoor ;D
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: titeguy3 on 2010-05-11 22:21:14
hahahahaha, the remnants of Jari's presence still grace us all.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-11 22:52:39
Lol I definitely didn't put the word ice-cream. In fact, I don't remember what I put.

Anyways, sorry for asking an obviously stupid question and sorry for sounding newbish. It just didn't really make sense to me that's all. Now it does and thank you for informing me.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-12 02:27:10
Anyways, sorry for asking an obviously stupid question and sorry for sounding newbish. It just didn't really make sense to me that's all. Now it does and thank you for informing me.
Awesome.  Now then, welcome to the forums.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-12 18:28:41
does NO ONE read the rules and regulations threads all around here before doing this stuff, you'd think the big "READ FIRST" thing would be a big giveaway.

after all, even if anyone here did support pirated games, theres maybe 2 downloads on the entire bloody internet thats not "Ultima" or "Bustersword Edition"

next thing ya know, people'll be asking about game cracks for ultima >.<

:P
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-12 19:12:37
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-12 22:01:51
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.

though its so sweet when it backfires on them :P
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Playhazard on 2010-05-12 23:20:05
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.

though its so sweet when it backfires on them :P
It's not sweet Jaitsu...IT'S EPIC!  I love pointing and laughing at pirating newbs.  For starters, if you pirate ANYTHING!  You NEVER talk about it, if you do, you NEVER mention where you got it from.  Just basically... if you pirate something, don't talk about it, don't brag about it, don't ever mention it...just pretend like you bought the game and copied it to ISO's
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-12 23:31:16
I find it hard to believe that people need to be told this, I mean come on it should be pretty obvious that illegal= flame on most modding sites, with exception of anything gta related of course.(Irony)
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-12 23:38:30
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.

though its so sweet when it backfires on them :P
It's not sweet Jaitsu...IT'S EPIC!  I love pointing and laughing at pirating newbs.  For starters, if you pirate ANYTHING!  You NEVER talk about it, if you do, you NEVER mention where you got it from.  Just basically... if you pirate something, don't talk about it, don't brag about it, don't ever mention it...just pretend like you bought the game and copied it to ISO's
Coward.  :P
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-13 00:37:37
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.

though its so sweet when it backfires on them :P
It's not sweet Jaitsu...IT'S EPIC!  I love pointing and laughing at pirating newbs.  For starters, if you pirate ANYTHING!  You NEVER talk about it, if you do, you NEVER mention where you got it from.  Just basically... if you pirate something, don't talk about it, don't brag about it, don't ever mention it...just pretend like you bought the game and copied it to ISO's

o_O methinks me should ask where you got your copy of FF7? :P
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Furzball on 2010-05-13 02:04:29
I softly laugh knowing I have two sets of FF7 for the PC. Ne-Ner-Ne-Ner-Neee-Neeer!
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-13 03:25:08
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.

though its so sweet when it backfires on them :P
It's not sweet Jaitsu...IT'S EPIC!  I love pointing and laughing at pirating newbs.  For starters, if you pirate ANYTHING!  You NEVER talk about it, if you do, you NEVER mention where you got it from.  Just basically... if you pirate something, don't talk about it, don't brag about it, don't ever mention it...just pretend like you bought the game and copied it to ISO's

o_O methinks me should ask where you got your copy of FF7? :P
Me too!! The fact that you're giving tips to those who have downloaded their copy. hehe
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-13 15:56:37
It really sucks to buy a game when other people just download it overnight then they have the game.

though its so sweet when it backfires on them :P
It's not sweet Jaitsu...IT'S EPIC!  I love pointing and laughing at pirating newbs.  For starters, if you pirate ANYTHING!  You NEVER talk about it, if you do, you NEVER mention where you got it from.  Just basically... if you pirate something, don't talk about it, don't brag about it, don't ever mention it...just pretend like you bought the game and copied it to ISO's

o_O methinks me should ask where you got your copy of FF7? :P
Me too!! The fact that you're giving tips to those who have downloaded their copy. hehe

don't get me wrong, i've been a bad boy and pirated before, but i'll never pirate ff7, its just to much a beautiful, and legendary game
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: sithlord48 on 2010-05-13 21:48:44
i have both the PSX and PC versions.  thats how much i liked it :) , ok i found ff7 and ff8 for the pc in the clearance section of walmart. come to think of it i think they were only like $10 a piece. thats mainly why i got that copy, well that and i expect i to have a pc longer then a working psx, figured it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-13 22:11:33
I'm guilty of downloading anime....over 200GB of it, but that's only because you can't really find legitimate copies of the stuff in my country no matter where you go..
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-14 00:31:53
I'm guilty of downloading anime....over 200GB of it, but that's only because you can't really find legitimate copies of the stuff in my country no matter where you go..

same in ontario, but if i really respect a game or a show, i will buy it legitimately
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-14 01:16:28
I'm guilty of downloading anime....over 200GB of it, but that's only because you can't really find legitimate copies of the stuff in my country no matter where you go..

same in ontario, but if i really respect a game or a show, i will buy it legitimately

Not really an option since the entire internet has stopped shipping down here, the only thing we can order is books and I'm not to keen on bugging my relatives to send stuff for me since I don't know them that well and just imagine how it would look if a strange relative showed up asking you to send a boatload of crap to their country far far away, not  really the best way to get on the will.
Title: Re: I don't know if this is allowed....
Post by: Covarr on 2010-05-14 03:46:55
i have both the PSX and PC versions.  thats how much i liked it :) , ok i found ff7 and ff8 for the pc in the clearance section of walmart. come to think of it i think they were only like $10 a piece. thats mainly why i got that copy, well that and i expect i to have a pc longer then a working psx, figured it would be a good idea.
I'm winning. I've got a Greatest Hits PSX copy, the trapezoidal PC version, and a copy I downloaded on PSN for my PS3.
Also got FF8 PSX, PS3, and PC, and FF9 PSX (will get PS3 when it comes out)

Best part is, I'm a broke-ass college student, and to buy these things that I don't need and can't afford, I have to skip a few lunches. :P