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Completely Unrelated / Re: What Leftism Is
« on: 2016-06-28 20:34:13 »
DLPB, I agree with the all of your points on EU and most on Islam. Most, because confrontations between hostile powers do not occur at all times. Nazis collaborated with the Soviets from 1939 to 1941, and in fact Stalin instituted trade agreements with Germany after Hitler took power. We all know how much those two regimes were different and actually hated each other, apart from the police states they both instituted. Come to think of it, the democracies themselves allied with the Soviets, even though that regime is widely considered the most bloody in 20th Century, and slaughtered many millions of people prior to WW2, as well as in it (not as much afterwards). Jews helped the Muslim Moors invade Spain because their rights had been restricted under the Visigoths (though internal Christian infighting was also important in them being overrun by the invading armies) and hoped to attain a better situation under the Caliphate, which in fact they did for a while. In response, Christians persecuted Jews in Spain after 1492. CIA (which would be expected to install an US-backed type of democracy) actually overthrew democracies in Iran (1953) and Brazil (1964) and installed dictatorships. As you can see, just because countries, ideologies and religions dislike each other, doesn't mean they won't have truces or even temporary alliances for their own gains, as well as seemingly contradicting operations.
It's true that we shouldn't resort to extreme and wild unevidenced theories in regard to anything. With that said, however, I don't see what's wrong with BUILDWALL's post. Plenty of world famous people over the ages have stated similar concerns, including Cicero, Voltaire, Henry Ford, Napoleon Bonaparte, Cervantes, Chaucer, Churchill, Chekhov, Charles d*ckens, Dostoyevsky, Erasmus, Benjamin Franklin, Charles de Gaulle, Hegel, Heidegger, Shakespeare, Thomas Jefferson, Immanuel Kant, Goethe, Martin Luther, Tolstoy or Mark Twain. Are we going to simply dismiss their thoughts critical of Jews the same way the mass media dismisses and ridicules all criticism of Islam as "Islamophobia"? Anti-semitism is born out of both rational and irrational actions, and reasonable Jewish writers like Bernard Lazare, Hilaire Belloc and Samuel Roth (who like many Germans, also admit guilty actions in WW2) have written as much. If we're going to dismiss any criticism of a single group, why shouldn't we dismiss that of others as well? Why not dismiss all the obvious actions of Muslims over the last decades and before? Why not dismiss the killings by Christians in the Middle Ages? Why not claim the Soviet Union killed at most 5 million in its existence and also call as conspiracy theories statements to otherwise? If we're truly open-minded, we need to listen to all the points of view (including Muslims, which are one of the biggest and definitely the most visible threat to Europe) and not become like many close-minded Leftists, who say they're "liberal" and "tolerant", but then turn around and say "Anyone against multiculturalism is a racist!", "Controlling your borders is fascist!" or "Stop stereotyping, you privileged white male!".
I know you're listening to PJW, but people aren't flawless, while he's great on the EU, Leftists and Islam, for example, and I use him as a resource for that, he refuses to read the same kind of literature and material about Jewish people. However, it's also true that there are plenty of nice and hard-working Jewish people, and in fact 1871-1933 German Jews were highly influential in world science and arts. Hans Zimmerman and Howard Shore, for example, are outstanding modern composers. Einstein is pretty famous as well. There are way more examples, but it's enough for now. It's also true to anyone who reads Jewish history that they're incredibly lively, industrious and ethnocentric people, who have established Europe's modern banking houses and even Reuters, the first worldwide hub of international news. And because of their internal connections, they've used them to benefit themselves in times when anti-Semitism ran rampant, such as WW2. However, in the process they often also screwed other people, and it is these events that are at the heart of these "anti-Semitic conspiracy theories", which I dismissed the same way you once did the anti-EU statements. Just like there have been influential German, Turkish, Arab or Japanese extremists, there have existed Jewish ones over the span of history, and it would be abnormal if any person, let alone people, wouldn't resort sometimes to dubious actions for their own benefit. Plenty of literature from both Jews and non-Jews has been written about such incidents over the ages from highly-articulated, intelligent and well-read people, who referenced and sourced their findings, so I don't understand your knee-jerk reaction. But let's talk about Muslims now.
Unfortunately, they're a serious problem in Europe, and no PC wallowing can change the facts. They've created no-go zones, where police and special services are afraid to go in. They've created a mass underworld drug industry. ISIS has been supplying terrorists to Europe and participate in terrorist attacks. However, the true extent of participation of Muslims is unknown, since false flag attacks can also be used for the EU to increase the police state, which they proclaim is to fight "Islamic extremism" and "racism" online. Which means that whoever participates in these attacks, EU benefits by widening the police state and thus strengthening the positions of the rich EU-funded Leftists who live in gated communities, away from high immigrant populations they claim to support. Muslim participation in these attacks is the most likely out of all groups, since that way they can "inflict revenge on Westerners".
Rotherham is simply the tip of the iceberg of the sex crimes in UK, and there are lots of undocumented smaller-scale "industries" of these, and probably even bigger ones that haven't been uncovered yet. Muslims (like many other non-European immigrants) vote Labour, since these will continue the welfare and pro-immigrant agendas Europe's been suffering for decades. As DLPB correctly said, these parties are aware of that and are trying to outdo each other in how much they can appease foreigners. In fact, I've read immigrants voted more favorably for "Stay" because of that, but have no link now. Check out this link, where Muslims attending the conference do not feel themselves as "British", and think Sharia Law should rule UK! Note also the timing. Finally, and most importantly, their population is the most rapidly growing in Europe. In fact, Muslims have the highest population growths all over the world, and have increasingly taken over more and more influence in India, for example. Just imagine how it's in Europe, where the native population has no kids anymore! German adults are slated to become minorities in their own country's demographic by the end of this decade because of the influx of millions into its country, for crying out loud! In 2015 alone Germany received a documented (there have been reports of hundreds of thousands who went into hiding) amount of people of over 1% of its own population, and it's only increasing!
I leave the conclusions to the reader.
It's true that we shouldn't resort to extreme and wild unevidenced theories in regard to anything. With that said, however, I don't see what's wrong with BUILDWALL's post. Plenty of world famous people over the ages have stated similar concerns, including Cicero, Voltaire, Henry Ford, Napoleon Bonaparte, Cervantes, Chaucer, Churchill, Chekhov, Charles d*ckens, Dostoyevsky, Erasmus, Benjamin Franklin, Charles de Gaulle, Hegel, Heidegger, Shakespeare, Thomas Jefferson, Immanuel Kant, Goethe, Martin Luther, Tolstoy or Mark Twain. Are we going to simply dismiss their thoughts critical of Jews the same way the mass media dismisses and ridicules all criticism of Islam as "Islamophobia"? Anti-semitism is born out of both rational and irrational actions, and reasonable Jewish writers like Bernard Lazare, Hilaire Belloc and Samuel Roth (who like many Germans, also admit guilty actions in WW2) have written as much. If we're going to dismiss any criticism of a single group, why shouldn't we dismiss that of others as well? Why not dismiss all the obvious actions of Muslims over the last decades and before? Why not dismiss the killings by Christians in the Middle Ages? Why not claim the Soviet Union killed at most 5 million in its existence and also call as conspiracy theories statements to otherwise? If we're truly open-minded, we need to listen to all the points of view (including Muslims, which are one of the biggest and definitely the most visible threat to Europe) and not become like many close-minded Leftists, who say they're "liberal" and "tolerant", but then turn around and say "Anyone against multiculturalism is a racist!", "Controlling your borders is fascist!" or "Stop stereotyping, you privileged white male!".
I know you're listening to PJW, but people aren't flawless, while he's great on the EU, Leftists and Islam, for example, and I use him as a resource for that, he refuses to read the same kind of literature and material about Jewish people. However, it's also true that there are plenty of nice and hard-working Jewish people, and in fact 1871-1933 German Jews were highly influential in world science and arts. Hans Zimmerman and Howard Shore, for example, are outstanding modern composers. Einstein is pretty famous as well. There are way more examples, but it's enough for now. It's also true to anyone who reads Jewish history that they're incredibly lively, industrious and ethnocentric people, who have established Europe's modern banking houses and even Reuters, the first worldwide hub of international news. And because of their internal connections, they've used them to benefit themselves in times when anti-Semitism ran rampant, such as WW2. However, in the process they often also screwed other people, and it is these events that are at the heart of these "anti-Semitic conspiracy theories", which I dismissed the same way you once did the anti-EU statements. Just like there have been influential German, Turkish, Arab or Japanese extremists, there have existed Jewish ones over the span of history, and it would be abnormal if any person, let alone people, wouldn't resort sometimes to dubious actions for their own benefit. Plenty of literature from both Jews and non-Jews has been written about such incidents over the ages from highly-articulated, intelligent and well-read people, who referenced and sourced their findings, so I don't understand your knee-jerk reaction. But let's talk about Muslims now.
Unfortunately, they're a serious problem in Europe, and no PC wallowing can change the facts. They've created no-go zones, where police and special services are afraid to go in. They've created a mass underworld drug industry. ISIS has been supplying terrorists to Europe and participate in terrorist attacks. However, the true extent of participation of Muslims is unknown, since false flag attacks can also be used for the EU to increase the police state, which they proclaim is to fight "Islamic extremism" and "racism" online. Which means that whoever participates in these attacks, EU benefits by widening the police state and thus strengthening the positions of the rich EU-funded Leftists who live in gated communities, away from high immigrant populations they claim to support. Muslim participation in these attacks is the most likely out of all groups, since that way they can "inflict revenge on Westerners".
Rotherham is simply the tip of the iceberg of the sex crimes in UK, and there are lots of undocumented smaller-scale "industries" of these, and probably even bigger ones that haven't been uncovered yet. Muslims (like many other non-European immigrants) vote Labour, since these will continue the welfare and pro-immigrant agendas Europe's been suffering for decades. As DLPB correctly said, these parties are aware of that and are trying to outdo each other in how much they can appease foreigners. In fact, I've read immigrants voted more favorably for "Stay" because of that, but have no link now. Check out this link, where Muslims attending the conference do not feel themselves as "British", and think Sharia Law should rule UK! Note also the timing. Finally, and most importantly, their population is the most rapidly growing in Europe. In fact, Muslims have the highest population growths all over the world, and have increasingly taken over more and more influence in India, for example. Just imagine how it's in Europe, where the native population has no kids anymore! German adults are slated to become minorities in their own country's demographic by the end of this decade because of the influx of millions into its country, for crying out loud! In 2015 alone Germany received a documented (there have been reports of hundreds of thousands who went into hiding) amount of people of over 1% of its own population, and it's only increasing!
I leave the conclusions to the reader.
