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General Discussion / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)

« on: 2019-05-23 13:55:21 »

1. A LOT of testing

Is there anyway we can help with that?  You do so much, it seems like one of the few places the community can help share the load with you.

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General Discussion / Re: Beacause - The Retranslation Project

« on: 2019-04-04 00:51:24 »

When I looked at the spreadsheet entry yesterday before posting it was highlighted green for me.  It's the only reason why I waded into the conversation.  It was a different shade of green, so maybe someone else reading the spreadsheet had highlighted it by selecting the cells?

Anyway, my mistake and my bad

And thanks for all the work on this.  I'm really looking forward to R06.

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General Discussion / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)

« on: 2019-04-03 20:00:37 »

Items in Green (but especially red) in The Reunion Database are up for discussion - IF you have some evidence they are wrong.

One last thing, then.  You should change the color on the "Form" entry from green to something that shows it's not up for discussion.

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General Discussion / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)

« on: 2019-04-03 01:05:10 »

Combine that with critical thinking of "there is no way that this option makes me fill out paper work in the menu"...

Ok, fair point

BUT!

Form is generally used to reference shape or layout "form the clay, THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM, Form up maggots!"

Your first two examples implies "Form" is generally used to change a single character, as opposed to your entire team.  And I think other people would think the same thing (e.g. "What's 'Form' do?  Oh, now cloud is selected.  CAN I CHANGE CLOUD TO HIS FINAL FORM!?").  Ok, all my examples are terrible, but my point is that "Form" doesn't communicate you're performing an action on the team.

But I agree with you that pressing the button would allow anyone to very quickly understand the purpose of the menu item.  "Form" works fine.  And if "Formation" fit we wouldn't be having this conversation.  But I'm not sure the shortened version (i.e. "Form") is a better name for the menu option than "Order".

Anyway, that's my two cents.  I'm going to stop https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshedding now and get back to lurking...

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General Discussion / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)

« on: 2019-04-03 00:24:48 »

Rudeness of ouchie0kids aside, I think the entry for "form" does deserve a little conversation.  And since it's highlighted in green, that's ok right?

With all due respect (i.e. your years of work on this mod and the expertise in your team), here are my thoughts:

"Formation" is MUCH better than "Order"
"Order" is marginally better than the shortened version "Form"

Speaking as an end-user, if I see "Formation" in the menu I intuitively know I'm adjusting the formation of my characters.  The word by itself perfectly describes what the menu item does. it's reasonable to think anything related to my team's formation happens with this menu item.

Now the original word "Order" is more vague to me.  What am I changing the order of?  Or am I ordering (i.e. commanding) something?  Once you select the "Order" menu item, the cursor goes to the characters which leaves you thinking "Oh, I guess I can change the order of my characters".  But even at that point you have no way of knowing you can change characters to the front or back row, because the word "Order" relates to the sequential order of things (1,2,3).

But "Form" is even more vague.  I don't see the word "Form" and immediately think "Oh, that's the shortened version of Formation".  And the english word "Form" does not make me think of anything related to managing the formation of my team.  If I selected the menu item for "Form" and it landed on a character I'd think "Ok, I guess I can now fill out some kind of form for Cloud if I select him?"

tl;dr - "Formation" is good, but "Form" may not be the best way to shorten it. I'm not saying to keep the original word "Order", but maybe there's a better translation here that also fits in the menu?