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Archive / anti-aliasing with xp and radeons/thoughts on forum

« on: 2004-01-21 06:00:19 »

yea you can rename i think i remember reading, i mean just doing the regedit is a lot, like theres no instructions

you're lucky, i heard  how crappy the avi's turned out to be..
hmm i wonder how much better it looks, i never played ff7 for ps

yea i thought about mounting but i didnt have too much space at the time, i hate how easy cd's can get scratched

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Archive / FF7 Radeon Hardware Rendering!!

« on: 2004-01-21 05:53:53 »

i already made the rivatuner for ati thread also

congrats on your homework thats interesting but ff7 only uses 8bit, i dont think theres enough people that check this forum enough to email ati

finding out something useful would be good

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Archive / ARGH FF7 Crashes, searched forum first :(

« on: 2004-01-19 18:26:39 »

i get that sometimes

i also get semi bad luck with ff7 and ill crash in some battle every now and then but its not that bad

that compatibility in xp does nothing, theres a patch fix for it at microsoft you can try that..

i found using win nt 5.0 compatibility works best if you'll even use it.

also most importantly, dont switch programs while in ff7, i get errors quicker doing that

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Archive / rivatuner for ati

« on: 2004-01-19 05:40:19 »

i might never get my fsaa working...

i saw the softmof options but it cant even list my driver so i can do some editing...

i think its whql...

i got the rc43 if thats what the newest one is called

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Archive / FF7 Radeon Hardware Rendering!!

« on: 2004-01-19 05:36:10 »

i guess so if most people dont care

and yea it is hard trying to search, but "ati" would get him an answer, its stuff like "rivatuner 8-bit palette" that stumps me

its ok since he hounded ati

i know i sent my email in, and if there were enough willing ati users around id tell them to email ati about ff7

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Archive / rivatuner for ati

« on: 2004-01-18 05:27:54 »

im trying to get fsaa working and it cant even recognize any drivers for my radeon on the main menu..

does this mean im screwed ?

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Archive / FF7 Radeon Hardware Rendering!!

« on: 2004-01-18 04:39:29 »

is this guy a moron ?

no one is going to help a lazy slob out, you managed a pc and cant even navigate around a forum for a quick and simple answer for one of the million more difficult ff7/ati threads ?

you did some good though, you harassed ati.

i just yesterday or so emailed their driver feedback crew and on that page it says on the bottom "

too bad, in my comments one of the last things i said was losing them as a customer

i was going to get everyone here to email them but i figured no one would do it

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Archive / Ending the ff7/ati+fsaa issue *no aa yet*

« on: 2004-01-15 11:59:34 »

is nvidia supporting 8-bit palette ?

is that even why nvidia users can use fsaa so im hearing ?
and why ati users are seeing the gridlines ?

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Archive / Ending the ff7/ati+fsaa issue *no aa yet*

« on: 2004-01-14 16:30:51 »

im making probably one last thread about this issue

i've realized the earlier catalyst versions like 2.4/2.5 (the earliest i have) will run ff7 with aa, but it doesnt even work, no gridlines, but its broken.

and with the newer catalysts i have (like 3.4 and the newest 3.10) it seems to work but you get the gridlines

so i realized themore you narrow the catalyst versions toward the middle, it works more with less gridlines (3.4 has less gridlines than 3.10 it seemed)
i remember people saying aa has lines in versions right before my 3.4...
so if theres any aa to be had for radeon users without hacking the game, its somewhere between versions 2.5-3.4 in my experience)

the only problem i have is that my refresh rate doesnt seem to work well and that having it at 60hz in game shows less flickering lines than 120..

it'll take a while for me to get the drivers on dialup but i at least want to put this topic to rest

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Archive / FF7 and AA w/ Radeon 9800Pro

« on: 2004-01-13 18:17:26 »

UPDATE: it was catalyst 2.4 not 2.5 that seems to work with aa

i always thought it was 2.5 that was on my cd..

this sucks though i see no improvement myself from 0x to 6x aa..

god maybe this crap is broke...
i see none in 0/4/6 aa

but i never heard of broken aa in catalyst drivers

what the hell.

it may be the driver but i doubt it... does anyone have evidence of aa working in comparison ?

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Archive / FF7 and AA w/ Radeon 9800Pro

« on: 2004-01-13 17:06:07 »

what about like nibelheim ? that was clear too... i just got into the world map so i wont be able to go into midgar for a while

the only bad thing about catalyst 2.5 is that it has no force v-sync so rips occur

but other than that it sounds like everything worked... im going to take screens of different/no aa to see how much

so you're saying aa doesnt work on the world map, or maybe it does and isnt harsh on it..
i still see jaggies in the horizon so..

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Archive / FF7 and AA w/ Radeon 9800Pro

« on: 2004-01-13 09:43:25 »

yea thx for replying..

this forum works weird, but thats ok, b/c things do get answered though few seems here at once..

but I HAVE NEWS.

i dont have any previous catalyst drivers and im on slow dialup BUT I GOT MY RADEON CD

and i installed the cd drivers catalyst version 2.5 AND THEY WORKED

i put on aa at 4xm (6x i think is broken or runs really slow with less of an improvement)

and it was crystal clear, no gridlines or anything, i havent had much of a chance to see for sure if it physically worked (just on world map)

but ill go into midgar and check it out where im familiar with.

im excited, but my newer games might not run right (a big downside)

i'll make a thread after i confirm it working.
im not totally sure if anyone has said in any other post if a version worked, i think i could have seen it.

but i think hardly anyone knows about it anyway...

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Archive / ff7 crashes when leaving the gold saucer.....

« on: 2004-01-12 09:40:09 »

i get occasional those random crashes when going into battles sometimes that eidos has commented on..

i think it maybe b/c i switch through programs/enter taskmanager though..

it seems not to get me at a bad time either

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Archive / FF7 and AA w/ Radeon 9800Pro

« on: 2004-01-12 09:36:16 »

this is pretty much the same thread i made not even a week ago...

but yea i've thought of/done the same exact things except get the unofficial xp hack which im guessing you say you got..
at least i didnt have to go through that, though im on dialup so i cant just go getting every patch/driver..

i saw someone mention catalyst 3.4's i think it was..

I JUST DONT GET how there are so many nvidia users playing ff7 and few radeon..

i do know that powerstrip is what us ati users would use in customizing settings..
but i dont know how all to do that if it has it/we need it..

i think at the time of all of these threads made up to years back.. nvidia users just might not have had a control panel or aa..

i know things are unsorted here but thats all i can tell..

www.guru3d.com is the big ati site that should list the program if we even need it..

www.ati.com for old drivers which i think they host.. i think i have some on cd so i guess i can try those..

tell me what you find out

AND ANYONE ELSE FEEL FREE TO RESPOND !

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Archive / anti-aliasing with xp and radeons/thoughts on forum

« on: 2004-01-12 09:25:01 »

hmm ok then

i guess that sums it down to drivers, whoever says they can anti alias on radeons must be using diff drivers...

that seems a little improbable... those gridlines are kind of serious depending on your alias rate
now i have to dig for the best versions of catalyst drivers if there are any that even enable fsaa...

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Archive / anti-aliasing with xp and radeons/thoughts on forum

« on: 2004-01-10 06:02:46 »

im just clearifying what you mentioned

yea but that is such a crappy compilation of hacks i dont want it, the messing with windows/inflating game size/who knows what else

it shouldnt be supported

BUT cant someone find out what in that fixed it ? so we can independantly offer anti aliasing/with radeons ?

hasnt anyone tried this yet ?

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Archive / anti-aliasing with xp and radeons/thoughts on forum

« on: 2004-01-09 13:47:12 »

oh yea good job on all of the work, i dont usually like unofficial releases but what else can you do.

oh and i remember people mentioning in some thread a ywar+ ago talking about radeons not supporting 16 bit fsaa but i think thats been included since...

what does that have to do with ff7 if it uses the 8 bit anyway remember ?

also on the chocobo patch legal thing... if jedwin hadnt of released a patch and just informed eidos im sure they would have made one, seeing his interest in it but oh well he already made it and they would fear a sue if they made it official  

all of this reading here really makes your head spin... i mean i was getting pretty impatient trying to find my way through everything  

oh and that one qhimm patch updater couldnt read any files in my ff7 directory..
instead it wrote them all to 0 kb.... this all can get pretty confusing.

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Archive / anti-aliasing with xp and radeons/thoughts on forum

« on: 2004-01-09 13:36:58 »

hi first of all, id like to say ive never done as much researching about something so simple as i've done here which i almost never do, one reason being its ff7, a bigger deal to me, the main reason, im on a 28.8 connect for now which means i cant go downloading diff driver releases and stuff..

and i have a few ideas, get rid of the links thread and startover and list everything orderly like the first post is in as little space as possible then quickly lock it, i think we know most everything we can by now, but there will still be new people like me looking to learning/on the progress...

the forums are just a little unorganized for searching for info...

now i know us ff7 fans have to make do, and so the surviving hardcore fans of the pc port are either programming savvy or just fans like me who end up learning

this is exactly the opposite of what you find on the internet, people dont inform well, but are organized.... id rather have it like this though and im just saying its good to see people talking fluidly and being so informative though scattered

ALSO i read on eidos site that you can edit in regedit to add movies to your hard drive (i just put a movies folder in my ff7 folder) since we have more space these days (its like 700 megs or something, most reoccuring movies from the first cd)

i just never saw it mentioned here i dont think and its quicker and might even cut down on some of those errors, im always in fear my cd's get overused and scratched anyway, and retail cd-r's are really poor for quality
PLUS (it says in full installation all files but movies are installed) so you might not even need one, though i checked on a reinstal and theres some bootup file i think it needs at first, or probably creates)

for a while it was unclear to me what everyone meant by the 1.2 file thingy, when a newcommer like me sees this its a little unclear, because theres that riva 1.2 patch then the ff7 1.02 config

we also need to seperate things into files/instructions for not just geforce users but radeon

and also note things like w2k is now playable from what i find out and also list things in best quality/compatibility

NOW onto what i couldnt find out for sure is can any radeon users use anti aliasing by any means ? i mean somehow geforce users can, but we cant ? they have that powerstrip for nvidia users but what about ati ? surely theres something right, i've seen on cnet asia someone saying they used aa on an older radeon the 7200 with the "unofficial ff7 xp hack"

i think there was more i wanted to know but thats it for now