Interesting...........

[Goku7]

Wow.  And I thought my DAD was harsh!!

Joey, if you ever needed to pay attention to someone, NOW would be that time.

[vvalentine]

Oh well, at least I tried to defend him, after all, these are Qhimm's forums.  I wash  my hands to whatever happens.

-vvalentine

[M0T]

Joey, you are such an eejit, everyoneknows that all of the gubbins for graphics are in the tv, all the console is is a disc drive which sends the data directly to the tv. I don't know where you got the hard drisc like device from, some people......






Ok now for a serious Q, does anyone know where I can get a super cheap PS2 in the UK, I saw ffx today and i want!

[Sephiroth 3D]

The cheapest I've seen is $200, but that's for the US version. Sorry. Try Ebay. They may have some good sub-$200 ones.

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[jarh7]

Hey, I don't know WHAT ur problem is, but the XBox is a good console.
I admit the fact when it comes to games, it's got nothing, but that's only because Sony has had years to get all the publishers and dif. companies and game titles, like FF.
Were Microsoft to put out a console before Sony's PS1, you bet ur worthless ass that Square would have FF under Micosoft.
The XBox does have good graphics. PS2 and XBox are almost a perfect match graphics wise. If you played the XBox, remeber part of it is the TV too.
You don't like the controllers? Buy the smaller one, moron.
Me, having both consoles in my house, I'd say I tend to favor the PS2, but only cuz of GTA 3 and FF being under it. Think about it. Were Halo to be on PS2, nobody would buy a friggin' XBox.

[eerrrr]

jarh7:  As mentioned before, please do not bring up topics older than one month.  If you feel it is necessary to make a point, such as "The Xbox isn't such a bad console", then feel free to start a new topic.  This way we can keep track of threads easier and it makes the board cleaner, instead of a bunch of 3 page off-topic threads.

But just to reply, I bought an Xbox around a month ago, and I'm beginning to regret it.  I only bought it for Halo, I forgot about things like FF, XenoSaga, and all the good games on the PS2.  However, it's an alright DVD player, and Project Ego sounds pretty good.  Just one more year till the next good game comes out...  -_-

[KojiroTakenashi]

I'm not going to bother with the rest of the Convo, but the PS2's bandwidth is weak and absolutely ruined. See, they only gave it about 8 megs total RAM. That's as much as a GamePark handheld! The Dreamcast has a total of 16 Megabytes total RAM. You can have hardware as powerful as you want it, without enough RAM to support it, it's going to be crippled. They've dont some amazing stuff with it now, but that's why good games took so long to come out, the optimizations took awhile since they had to squeeze it all in there.
If Sony had Given the PS2 more RAM I'd be more than happy to snatch one up ^.^ The Only reason I want one now is for the games, really if they came out on PC (like GTA3) then I lose my reason to get one. See, a computer's graphics system can be pretty damn powerful, provided you optimize the dickens out of it like I have (manual tweaking....looong hours). I have a Geforce 2 Pro and I'm sure it could pull off quite a bit...imagine what would happen if I plunked a Geforce 4 into it :wicked:

[J*** H*******]

I'm not going to bother with the rest of the Convo, but the PS2's bandwidth is weak and absolutely ruined. See, they only gave it about 8 megs total RAM.

Huh? Bandwidth != amount of RAM. In fact, if PS2 doesn't have enough bandwidth for you show us something that has. Feel free to read the first page of this _really old_ (eerrrr is correct, ancient topics should be left alone, unless you have something _really_ important to say) topic, there's some discussion about bandwidth in there.

[atzn]

I'm not going to bother with the rest of the Convo, but the PS2's bandwidth is weak and absolutely ruined. See, they only gave it about 8 megs total RAM. That's as much as a GamePark handheld! The Dreamcast has a total of 16 Megabytes total RAM. You can have hardware as powerful as you want it, without enough RAM to support it, it's going to be crippled. They've dont some amazing stuff with it now, but that's why good games took so long to come out, the optimizations took awhile since they had to squeeze it all in there.
If Sony had Given the PS2 more RAM I'd be more than happy to snatch one up ^.^ The Only reason I want one now is for the games, really if they came out on PC (like GTA3) then I lose my reason to get one. See, a computer's graphics system can be pretty damn powerful, provided you optimize the dickens out of it like I have (manual tweaking....looong hours). I have a Geforce 2 Pro and I'm sure it could pull off quite a bit...imagine what would happen if I plunked a Geforce 4 into it :wicked:

lolx, PS2's bandwidth is nearly 5x of a GeForce4 Ti, so I don't see why it is 'weak'................. as Jari said, read the first page. Heh heh.

[KojiroTakenashi]

No, what I'm saying is they ruined it's bandwidth. It can't use as effectively because of the lack of RAM.

[Goku7]

At the very least, they could have anticipated the use of FSAA, and give the system more VRAM.  I've heard that 4mb isn't enought to even pull of 2x FSAA.

[KojiroTakenashi]

Exactly. That's why they had to use a hardware blurring effect (similar to the one in Pete's plugins, but not as good looking) in the early games...Look at Tekken. Now the Developers have found a way to sneak into using the rest of the RAM, but it's still not enough...

[Nori]

I do not remember correctly, but was LinuxKit for XBOX or PS2...
Under Linux... I'm sure you might be able to run some windows apps, other emulators, even some of PC-games...

But will XBOX or PS2 (with LinuxKit) show the better performance then PC??? (such as games, and etc)???

[eerrrr]

The Linux Kit's for the PS2, however some guy in America is saying he'll pay a large amount of money to whoever develops a Linux program for the Xbox.

An emulator on the Xbox would be pretty cool, but things like that take ages to program and they're always making updates. So if you bought the software you might have to continuously upgrade it, unless they decided to make use of the console's broadband features and put the upgrades online.

[jarh7]

yeah....in response about the message about subjects older than one month.
Sorry 'bout that. Really. I neglected to notice the sign saying how many pages there were....and automatically assumed that was the latest reply.
kinda stupid of me