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epsilon

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A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« on: 2020-03-23 15:06:43 »
Finally managed to get 7th Heaven to work on my arch linux -- well sort of. The program is a bit wonky (but .NET is known to be very iffy in linux). Sometimes it refuses to load ff7 with code 5 errors (and code 5 fix does not fix anything) and sometimes it crashes when transitioning screens (but this seems to be a persistent problem only solvable with heavy work on the driver).

Anyway, what I want to ask are the following newbie-ish questions. For input I use the keyboard, and I have the following two problems:

1. When selecting names for characters, my customized setup does not work, not even the original steam works, but only the numpad. Is there a way to fix this?

2. More grievously, every time I reload the game I have to re-customize the original steam to my preferred setup (as well as the sound volumes). Is there a way to make these persistent through saves?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #1 on: 2020-03-23 17:28:25 »
in 7th heaven under Settings > Game launcher there are settings to both change your keybinds for in game as well as set your Volumes for in game once you set them there everytime you run FF7 it will have those settings. If you want to make a custom keybind layout you can set it in game then in the same section Settings > game launcher you can save your custom layout from the game so that 7th heaven recognizes it and loads that everytime

epsilon

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #2 on: 2020-03-23 17:52:36 »
Thanks. Now that you have pointed it out it is obvious. That just leaves the first question, but that is more of a minor minor nuisance than anything else.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #3 on: 2020-03-23 23:18:15 »
Thanks. Now that you have pointed it out it is obvious. That just leaves the first question, but that is more of a minor minor nuisance than anything else.

The solution to your first question is the same as the second. Game Launcher settings as explained in last post unless I'm misunderstanding something.

epsilon

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #4 on: 2020-03-24 01:33:40 »
The solution to your first question is the same as the second. Game Launcher settings as explained in last post unless I'm misunderstanding something.

I was afraid it might be, but then got to test it when Aeris joined, and no, it does not work. Only the numpad keys work, neither the custom steam keyboard (which was my first setup until Flash0429 made me realize there was a small save button in there) nor my customized setup which by then was already being loaded by 7th Heaven -- but I will test it again once I get Red XIII.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #5 on: 2020-03-24 02:45:49 »
You could try forcing it if it's failing. In the 7th Heaven/7th Workshop folder, open up settings.xml, go down to GameLaunchSettings then InGameConfigOption, put the config file there that you're trying to load. I'm also on Arch, and I'm not having the same issues that you're having. The only thing I can think of is that you need to save the control config when the game is running as well as hitting save in the bottom right.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #6 on: 2020-03-24 09:12:28 »
I guess I'm not understanding you. Worst case, you should just be able to directly type the names on the keyboard that you want. Backspace deletes, escape gets the cursor out of the character selection screen I believe, and enter should confirm the name or take the cursor over to the options on the right.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #7 on: 2020-03-24 12:09:50 »
I guess I'm not understanding you. Worst case, you should just be able to directly type the names on the keyboard that you want. Backspace deletes, escape gets the cursor out of the character selection screen I believe, and enter should confirm the name or take the cursor over to the options on the right.

Sorry, my bad for not being more explicit. Almost everything you say works, including entering names directly, backspace, etc. but: when setting up the game I chose steam keyboard (or whatever it is called) which maps the 4 directions to the four arrows and the ok/confirm to x. But in the name selection screen only the numpad keys work and to select/confirm had to hit numpad enter not the x key. The same when Flash0429 taught me how to instruct 7th Heaven to load my customized setup key: the directional keys do not work, the ok key does not work, only the numpad keys.

As I said this is a very minor inconvenience, as it only concerns the name selection screen. And maybe I am misunderstanding things and this is by design, say because a user could remap the directional keys to *any* keyboard keys (e.g. say the rogue set because he is an old-school fan of rogue-likes) and then screw up entering names directly, but it does strike me as odd.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #8 on: 2020-03-24 12:29:50 »
Hmm, yeah very weird. I can't say I've experienced that myself but I've always used the numpad or an xbox controller, except in the case of my named presets where the "workaround" I described above works. Sounds like there might be a bug in the game itself.

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Re: A couple of questions on 7th Heaven
« Reply #9 on: 2020-03-24 13:30:50 »
Sorry, my bad for not being more explicit. Almost everything you say works, including entering names directly, backspace, etc. but: when setting up the game I chose steam keyboard (or whatever it is called) which maps the 4 directions to the four arrows and the ok/confirm to x. But in the name selection screen only the numpad keys work and to select/confirm had to hit numpad enter not the x key. The same when Flash0429 taught me how to instruct 7th Heaven to load my customized setup key: the directional keys do not work, the ok key does not work, only the numpad keys.

As I said this is a very minor inconvenience, as it only concerns the name selection screen. And maybe I am misunderstanding things and this is by design, say because a user could remap the directional keys to *any* keyboard keys (e.g. say the rogue set because he is an old-school fan of rogue-likes) and then screw up entering names directly, but it does strike me as odd.

Now I understand, I did go back and start a new game and played until you could enter a name. I encountered the same issue you did with my keyboard reverting to the default numpad controls, although the controller I tested did not revert to the default inputs, which is probably why I hadn't noticed this issue prior. I wouldn't see why this would be a wine issue and is more likely a bug in the game, though we should probably get a windows user to test it.