The SaiNt's High Res Patch on FFVII Ultima Edition

[Psycho]

Ok,i noticed that most of you on this forum said that it was not possible to use the saints high res patch on ultima edition of FFVII,but you who said that are wrong,you can patch it but its pretty hard,not going to tell you guys how i did it because i believe that would be breaking a rule,but if any admins would want me to post how to do it then i guess i could,also ill try to get some screen shots.

[Covarr]

NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO
And then some more NO's.

We don't support Ultima Edition here (because it's pirated AND because it's buggy broken crap).
Additionally, there's no good reason to use The SaiNt's patch anymore. It worked back in the day, but it's become obsoleted by Aali's driver.

[Psycho]

NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO
And then some more NO's.

We don't support Ultima Edition here (because it's pirated AND because it's buggy broken crap).
Additionally, there's no good reason to use The SaiNt's patch anymore. It worked back in the day, but it's become obsoleted by Aali's driver.

1. How is it a buggy broken crap when ive beat the game on it?
2. Ok ima google the aali's driver cause ive never heard of it before,and whatever it is it makes the saints patch sound like crap.

[BlitzNCS]

Don't think that ignoring the part about it being pirated will just make it go away 

[Master Ridley]

Back when I had the Ultima Edition alone (I bought the legit FF7 PC CDs soon after however since the UE was only temporary for me anyway), I was also able to get many patches to work with it, many claiming their patches wouldn't work for it. I technically still use the UE of FF7 though I use the legit CDs instead of Daemon Tools.

Hey, it came with lots of goodies…!

Psycho:
1. It really isn't buggy if you set it up correctly and by your statement, you did set it up properly. The buggy part is pretty much a lie but the fact that it's an illegal ware isn't until it becomes abandon-ware (probably never will unless Square goes down the drain).
2. I've saved you the trouble of looking for this driver (Link). Scroll down to the 13th post which was made by Aali. You may want to use Qhimm's Search feature next time though I also have trouble with this forum's search function…

[Kudistos Megistos]

Ahem!

I was under the impression that abandonware is still sometimes illegalware. It might be no-one-is-going-to-sue-you-for-pirating-it-ware, but that's because it's no-one-cares-about-it-any-more-ware or the-company-that-owns-the-rights-to-it-no-longer-exists-ware, not because it's legal-to-copy-ware.

[nfitc1]

Hosting and distributing copyrighted software without permission is illegal.

See? Here's the deal. It's not illegal to own, it's illegal to distribute. That's all copyrights ever are, the right to distribute commercially. When you buy something, you don't buy the right to own, you buy the right to obtain a copy from a licensed vendor.

Ergo, it's not illegal to OWN, it's illegal to GIVE.

Example: I download the ROM of, say, Chrono Cross. I have obtained a copy from a source that violates the copyright law, but that illegality doesn't extend to me, the one that obtained it.

No, there's no legal standing with the word "abandonware". Technically "abandonware" is software that is not maintained any longer. Trick is with "abandonware" no one holds the right to distribute any longer. That doesn't mean you can just get it from any source.

Reverse Engineering gets tricky too. If you reverse something with the intention of using that code in another piece of software, that's illegal. If you reverse it to change the way it behaves, that's situationally illegal. No CD patches made by reversing aren't technically illegal, but they can be used to pirate. Mine doesn't because I did it myself and I own the game and don't like changing discs a lot (NO! Do NOT ask me how to do it or request that I share ANYTHING related to it with you!!!). No one has a copyright on the contents of my computer or its hard drive so I can change any byte I please, thank you very much. If FF7.exe was in the way, well....too bad for it.

[Covarr]

The bugs are mostly with the no-cd crack that's built into it. They interfere with quite a bit.

[pyrozen]

The bugs are mostly with the no-cd crack that's built into it. They interfere with quite a bit.

no-cd cracking ff7 is pretty easy, there is actually a tutorial on qhimm on how to crack v1.02 after you have applied a few of the YAMP patches.... that's all i have to say about this topic. That, and just go buy a friggin copy of ff7, there are more than a few vendors who sell copies extremely cheap.

[Master Ridley]

I'm also not stating the FF7 is abandonware as Square is still selling it though only on the PSN at the moment. Square would have to go down the drain, meaning, no more Square, and after 5+ years, if no other company buys the rights, all of their 1st party stuff will be legalized Abandon-Ware. Otherwise, yes, Abandon-Ware is still illegal to download.

However, the legality of Abandon-Ware is off-topic…

That, and just go buy a friggin copy of ff7, there are more than a few vendors who sell copies extremely cheap.

…Was that towards me? I own the legit PC disks now and for a few years now too. As for Psycho, I can't vouch for him but whose to say…Perhaps he eventually bought the legit PC disks.

I think the problem Psycho is stating is that the HiRes patch, as well as other patches, my point too, all work for the Ultima Edition when they aren't supposed to.

The bugs are mostly with the no-cd crack that's built into it. They interfere with quite a bit.

True but you don't have to use it. I didn't and I still don't. I use the legit disks now!

[Kudistos Megistos]

Square would have to go down the drain, meaning, no more Square, and after 5+ years, if no other company buys the rights, all of their 1st party stuff will be legalized Abandon-Ware.

Where on Earth did you read that?

[Covarr]

I'm also not stating the FF7 is abandonware as Square is still selling it though only on the PSN at the moment. Square would have to go down the drain, meaning, no more Square, and after 5+ years, if no other company buys the rights, all of their 1st party stuff will be legalized Abandon-Ware. Otherwise, yes, Abandon-Ware is still illegal to download.

No, that is completely wrong. After the copyright expires (way more than 5 years), it enters the public domain unless the copyright is renewed. If Square Enix goes under, they won't be able to, but the property may be sold to another company that renews it. Square themselves would definitely renew it, though.

[Jaitsu]

I'm also not stating the FF7 is abandonware as Square is still selling it though only on the PSN at the moment. Square would have to go down the drain, meaning, no more Square, and after 5+ years, if no other company buys the rights, all of their 1st party stuff will be legalized Abandon-Ware. Otherwise, yes, Abandon-Ware is still illegal to download.

No, that is completely wrong. After the copyright expires (way more than 5 years), it enters the public domain unless the copyright is renewed. If Square Enix goes under, they won't be able to, but the property may be sold to another company that renews it. Square themselves would definitely renew it, though.

i don't see square going under anytime soon though anyway

[Kudistos Megistos]

way more than 5 years

This.

I'm not sure what the exact details on software copyright expiration laws are, but if they're anything like the laws for music and literature, most of us will be dead before FF7 becomes public domain.

[Mako]

way more than 5 years

This.

I'm not sure what the exact details on software copyright expiration laws are, but if they're anything like the laws for music and literature, most of us will be dead before FF7 becomes public domain.

Hmmm must be different for hardware surely...Yobo's been making NES's for about 5 years now.

[Covarr]

That's a patent, not a copyright. And you're right, it is different, patents don't last nearly as long, and I'm not certain they're renewable.

[Mako]

Ooops I forgot copyright it is...ANYWAY this thread should be locked as per the rules I don't mean to be a stick in the mud I just don't wan't to see any more people get the banhammer.


(As the previous sticky was getting full, and the debate had run its course some time ago I thought I'd reiterate the board rules on a fresh sticky, and keep it locked).

We will not help you with any issues you experience should you be using any copy of an FF game that has been downloaded, pirated, torrented, etc. This includes the so-called FF7 "Ultima edition". If you are using these, or perhaps all your FMVs are zero bytes and empty to make the download size smaller, simply don't ask for help, for you will get none here and your thread will be locked.

If you really have to ask why this rule is in place, then this is due to the unethical and illegal nature of pirating the game, as well as the probability that your illegal copies of the game will have extra bugs on top of what we already have to deal with when it comes to the original. Please do not chime in with a debate on the matter as it will not do anything to change the rule, and as such this thread remains locked.