Field Files again...

[The SaiNt]

*EDIT*

Everything is explained properly below.  

[This message has been edited by The SaiNt (edited August 14, 2001).]

[Ged]

Nice one!!!!

Another great addition to the FF7RP!!

Now be a good boy and make a list of all the values..  

[The SaiNt]

Ignore everything above.
I'm gonna post a 99% correct version soon  

[Ged]

/ignore above

[The SaiNt]

Here is the updated version of my section 7 documentation
In the field files, there is a section called Section 7.
All values are in hex unless stated.
An example of Section 7 will be listed here.

code:

LI--------+ BE ER E1--+ E2--+ E3--+ E4--+ E5--+ E6--+ L1--+ L2--+ L3--+ L4--+  
30 00 00 00 01 80 2D 61 2E 59 2F 49 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 11 30 11 00 00 00 00 

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LI Length Indicator (Always 30 00 00 00)
BE Battle Enable (00=Disable 01=Enable)
ER Encounter Rate (01=Highest FF=Lowest)
E1 Enemy 1 Type, etc
L1 Lower Probability Enemy, etc

Any Value between 00 and FF will work perfectly well.
According to the debug data, setting the value of E1 to

First things first, you will have to understand that this section has 2 main sections:-
1. The Normal Enemy Definition
2. The Low Probability Enemy Definition

The Low Probability enemies have a very low chance of being met, about 1/20 of the usual(approximate)
The second part you need to understand is that you have to understand how many enemies you want to define first.

To define 3 enemies, you need to use these root values:-

code:

E1--+ E2--+ E3--+
00 60 00 58 00 48

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For 4 enemies, you use these root values:-

code:

E1--+ E2--+ E3--+ E4--+
00 48 00 44 00 3C 00 28

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For 5 enemies, you use these root values:-

code:

E1--+ E2--+ E3--+ E4--+ E5--+
00 3C 00 38 00 34 00 30 00 28

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For 6 enemies, you use the following root values:-

code:

E1--+ E2--+ E3--+ E4--+ E5--+ E6--+
00 38 00 30 00 2C 00 28 00 24 00 20

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After defining how many enemies you want to add, you will have to determine which scene you want to use.
AFAIK, there are 1024 different scenes. I haven't tested all of them, so I can't tell you which is which.

Now let's say you decide to choose Scene #264
How do you define 264 in hex?
You use this:-
09 01

Assume that you decide to define 3 enemies, scene #264, scene #25, scene #255
The root values for 3 enemies are

code:

E1--+ E2--+ E3--+
00 60 00 58 00 48

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add 264,25 & 255 to those values

code:

 E1--+ E2--+ E3--+
 00 60 00 58 00 48
+09 01 25 00 FF 00
------------------
 09 61 25 58 FF 48
------------------

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Therefore your new values should be

code:

E1--+ E2--+ E3--+
09 61 25 58 FF 48

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The same process applies for the Low Probability Section as well.
The only difference is that this section uses different root values.

For 1 enemy,

code:

L1--+
00 20

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For 2 enemies,

code:

L1--+ L2--+
00 10 00 10

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For 4 enemies,

code:

L1--+ L2--+ L3--+ L4--+
00 08 00 08 00 20 00 10

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Please note that the different scenes define most aspects of battle.
Initial Camera position
Front Attack
Back Attack
Attack from both sides
Side Attack
Amount of Enemies
Enemy HP
Enemy MP
Battle Scripting
Battle Background

It however does not define
Premptive Attack

What I'm trying to say is with knowledge on how to manipulate this section, you can only choose from the predefined battles.
The predetermined battles are defined somewhere else and I have no idea where they are, so don't ask me.  
Any questions?
I hope at least some people understand what I'm trying to say

[Skillster/RedSarg99]

yea i get u, of course my Hex skills will get me lost, but i fully understand

[Anonymous]

what exactly are the field files? like the background/text/etc files?

[The SaiNt]

There's no clearcut way to define the field files.
The field files are individual files in FF7 that define different locations.

[This message has been edited by The SaiNt (edited August 14, 2001).]

[Skillster/RedSarg99]

wheres that list of fights gone, u put it there earlier and edited it out! i need that list back as a quick reference.
so far 99 FF puts u up against bizarro sephiroth, but u cant attack him  

[The SaiNt]

The reason I took it out is because it doesn't apply.

Don't you see?
If you ever make a list, you will have to base it on the base values.

So for example, you should define Scene 1
as 01 01

And not as 99 FF or such since those values include the base values and if anyone uses a different base of values, all the values will no longer apply.

Why don't you guys just get fice to add this to cosmo so it will be easier for you guys to edit it?

On a side note, I'm working on Section 2(3D Camera) and Section 8(Background Layer Manipulation I think) now

[Skillster/RedSarg99]

i knew what u meant from the start man, chill
what i meant was a needed some "quick" refrences to test out my team   like ultima weapon.
basically ur saying theres a base emeny number plus a scene (or situation) number = final memory value. even if fice DID add in the ability to change the values inside cosmo, i still find editing the memory values in real time more easier like we discussed before, but hell. FICEDULA!! put some perlimanery support in there!!!

[ficedula]

OK, you take over all the coding I'm doing in the Remake project and I'll have time to work on Cosmo  

Or code a Cosmo plugin up yourself, that'd work too  

Seriously, I WILL get back to working on Cosmo ... eventually ... but I far prefer coding the Remake now instead!

[Skillster/RedSarg99]

hey i understand, i was a programmer b4  
as long as ur enjoying ur work keep at it.
b4 u get writers block

[Sephiroth 3D]

So Saint... Does figuring out Section 2 mean I'll get all my camera info? *crosses fingers and begins to pray*  

Sephiroth 3D

"One who seeks knowledge from another person, doesn't learn half as much as the one who seeks knowledge for himself." - Vincent Valentine, The Sephiroth Chronicals, Book 1: Resurrection

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[The SaiNt]

I guess it should.
However, something else has caught my attention.
Wait for my next post ^^

[Skillster/RedSarg99]

AAAH!!!
3d plane field co ordinates? fixed battle numbers? what could it be  

[Anonymous]

argh. so are field files located in like flevel or something? gimme some file names, people =)

[Anonymous]

I completely understand!!!! Both of my hex editors have expired tho. I need a new one. Suggestions? Iva already used Hex Workshop and Ultraedit.

[Anonymous]

hmmmmm maybe i dont. explain what a 'scene' is.

[Sephiroth 3D]

Scene: A particual shot, or camera angle that we see the game from, depicting a certian event. Other events in the same scene would normally require a different scene.

Example: The gates to Nimbelheim when Sephiroth, Cloud, and two soldiers walk through them, during Cloud's story.

Example 2: Cloud sees Sephiroth, Zack, himself and another soldier walk through Nimbelheim's gates, during Cloud's Lifestream experience.

Darkness: Why not find a crack or a serial?

Sephiroth 3D

"One who seeks knowledge from another person, doesn't learn half as much as the one who seeks knowledge for himself." - Vincent Valentine, The Sephiroth Chronicals, Book 1: Resurrection

[email protected]  
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[halkun]

The correct Square term for that module is a "drama" or "event"  not a scene. Makes more scense like that.

I don't mean to correct you, you have been doing more digging the the field files than the rest of us and deserve to call it whatever the hell you want. It's just I'd like to be on the same page when I dig around on the Japanese side of the net and find some obscure data relating to what we are talking about. ^_^

[Anonymous]

1: I dont know how
2: Im trying to keep my system legal.

[Skillster/RedSarg99]

any progress saint?

[The SaiNt]

Not yet.  

I'm taking some time off  
You can't expect to look at hex numbers all day.
Besides, I'm brushing up on MFC