Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]  (Read 3073216 times)

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3925 on: 2017-10-25 01:36:28 »
I'd just settle for them to finally look at the dialogue changes haha.  And thanks, Mcindus.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3926 on: 2017-10-29 09:22:40 »
People come in and they start with "Love your mod...."  and it turns to "But I want A B C D E F G changing, because I don't like the change."
Hey DLPB! Love your mod, but can you start everything over from scratch because I don't like some things?

 :P

I was one of those people at one time; now that I've figured out how to change what I want on my own, (Which I think amounted to changing the spell names how I like, and changing Mithril to Mythril...?) I really don't care about anything you guys name that doesn't adhere to official English Final Fantasy terms, since I can alter it myself if I dislike it. The fact that there are selectors for American English vs. British English, and Canon Terms vs. Proper Terms in the installer is good enough on my end, and honestly, it's more than I would do. Simply altering minor pieces of text in a PC game isn't hard, and I don't understand why people act like it is.

I came in here to enjoy a comprehensible FFVII script, and that's why I've been supporting The Reunion for so long. Thanks everyone for all your hard work, and I hope to be playing R06 by May 2018. :) (No pressure though, believe me--I get having to push release dates back further...)

I know I'm coming across harsh and direct... but that's who I am - and those kinds of "feedback" from people do not make me any more diplomatic or "nice". hahaha!
I've actually thought a lot about your words here--I'm a modder myself, going by the name of vivify93 on RHDN and TiresomeTeddybear on Steam. I used to bow to what anyone said and do what they requested, but I think I'm going to take that mentality more into mind.

"This is not a diplomacy, it's my mod and I'm going to do what I want with it. If you don't like a text change, change it back. The tools exist and it's not difficult by any interpretation of the word."
« Last Edit: 2017-10-29 09:27:00 by rotschleim »

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« Reply #3927 on: 2017-10-29 11:39:15 »
Thanks :) R06 will definitely be out by then, but I am hoping R07 (finalized for retranslation) will be by then too.  Charlie Beer is still ploughing through the Japanese proof check :) We're getting there.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3928 on: 2017-11-02 08:03:54 »
Is R06 just going to be technical updates, then, and R07 is going to have the finalized translation with Mr. Beer's refinements? Sorry for asking a dumb question.

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« Reply #3929 on: 2017-11-02 21:35:07 »
R06 is all progress so far. Look at TheReunion Database. 

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3930 on: 2017-11-03 02:20:30 »
Yeah, I never have to touch this scene ever again!

#xy 104 72
Rufus
“I hear Sephiroth was on board?”
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#xy 224 96
Heidegger
“…Yes.”
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#xy 104 72
Rufus
“And it seems {CLOUD}
  and the others were
  as well?”
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#xy 96 72
Rufus
“They all slipped through.
  This is a total disgrace,
  Heidegger.”
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#xy 176 72
Heidegger
“Sorry.
  I’m… ashamed of myself.”
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#xy 104 72
Rufus
“I’m growing tired
  of your apologies.”
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#xy 150 64
Rufus
“You’d better start doing something.
  I’ll be expecting results.”
« Last Edit: 2017-11-03 05:53:39 by DLPB »

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« Reply #3931 on: 2017-11-03 04:22:41 »
Little things get noticed too.  Charlie spotted missing dialogue (bolded):

“I heard it… That big dog…
  It talks like a human!”{NEW}
“‘Grandpa,I’m so warm.’
  That’s what he said!
  It was sooo weird!


and one of my faves

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Butch
“I should probably just hire
  some feisty,young girl.
  Take it easy.”
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Butch
“The cutie working here part-
  time has been a godsend.”
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Butch
“She took me for a ride—
  that girl I hired.{NEW}
“Ran off with all the takings.
  And the materia.”{NEW}
“I guess if something seems
  too good to be true,that’s
  because it is!”{NEW}
“Well,feel free to have a look.
  …At what’s left anyway.”
« Last Edit: 2017-11-03 04:34:47 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3932 on: 2017-11-03 16:14:56 »
Had to do a second take on the "She took me for a ride" line after taking it too literally the first time. Well, hopefully Yuffie hasn't got a vehicle she's been keeping secret from the party. :o

On a more serious note, I've recently been following a streamer who has been using the mod. I haven't caught up with all his progress yet but neither of us have noticed any big mistakes with the text so far. Bizzarely, he hadn't heard of the phrase 'looking out for number one' (as spoken by the District 5 weapon seller) but I imagine most people using the mod will have.

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this but there have been some notable issues with the Kal's models. As you can see here, Cloud's model is holding his Buster Sword while he is lying on the bed at his mom's house. This happens during the flashback while staying at Aerith's house and during the Kalm flashback.

Also, it seems Elmina is missing a command to turn to face Barret during this scene if the player talks to her beforehand.

Apologies in advance if these errors have already been accounted for or if they turn out to be unique to the streamer.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3933 on: 2017-11-03 16:30:06 »
The Cloud issue with buster sword is being fixed piece by piece.  I've already sorted the issue you mention.  The last issue is one I haven't seen before and will look into it.

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« Reply #3934 on: 2017-11-04 17:44:59 »
That's good to hear. There was a problem with the link for the last issue that has now been fixed.

Since catching up with the streamer I may have some additional issues with the models to raise but I need to refer to the spreadsheet first. Should any further issues regarding field models be posted in the 'Big Bug...' thread or here?

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« Reply #3935 on: 2017-11-04 18:01:35 »
Thanks for your work on all the mods.
I wanted to come back to ff7 after not having played it for years and specially after reading the kotaku articles about the poor translation, so I appreciate very much your work in that regard.
I wanted to donate but both the OP link and the paypal link in the help doc you included in R05 are down. Looking forward to your fix there.
Cheers!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3936 on: 2017-11-04 18:38:51 »
Kaldarasha's thread.

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« Reply #3937 on: 2017-11-04 22:27:59 »
Quote
OP link and the paypal link in the help doc you included in R05 are down.

Thanks for notifying me.  I have no idea how that's happened.

https://goo.gl/US5MY3


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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3938 on: 2017-11-05 17:30:36 »
Hello. Thanks for the great mod compilation! I was wondering if there's a transcript of Beacause for download somewhere. I'd like to see the other gold saucer date dialogues without having to play through 3 more times :)

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« Reply #3939 on: 2017-11-05 19:20:22 »
Simply install again - or install to dummy folder - and do not end the installation when completed.  Navigate to dlpb-mods folder in root and copy the text files.

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« Reply #3940 on: 2017-11-11 09:02:10 »
Kaldarasha's thread.

I created a channel on discord. Might help to keep in contact. https://discord.gg/CWAq6w9
« Last Edit: 2017-11-12 12:00:54 by Kaldarasha »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3941 on: 2017-11-16 07:19:39 »
Installation question.

I have the steam version of FFVII. Do I need to run the game converter? Should I use the converter from the first page of this post (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14047.0) or the one from the 7th Heaven post? After the mod installs, which exe do I launch?

Sorry if I am missing something easy. Thanks for this project.

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« Reply #3942 on: 2017-11-17 10:13:36 »
I'm trying to translate the exe to another language but when a encode it shows a bunch like this:

Line 118 [0_ff7.exe.txt]: 4294967284 char(s) too long.
Line 224 [0_ff7.exe.txt]: 1 char(s) too long.

I find the lines and edit then but nothing change in the log.

I don't know if the version of  touphScript works for R05c. But most of the links are down.

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« Reply #3943 on: 2017-11-18 09:33:10 »
Wrong thread for it. I am also not the author of tS.  The problem is self explanatory.  The entries you have for those lines are larger than what is allowed.  I placed the newest link near the end of the ts thread.

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« Reply #3944 on: 2017-11-19 01:29:13 »
The problem is self explanatory.

Noted. Yeah that's what i posted here, because a saw that you upload it... just did not know if that one works for R05c, because the folder says 1.3.1 but the program shows as 1.2.9.

The thing is that is that no matter if there is just 1 letter/number in the line, still gives an error.  So that's what i'm thinking is something else. Anyways thanks for answering and the mod.

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« Reply #3945 on: 2017-11-19 13:46:31 »
Girls and work are interfering, but I will have this update out one way or another soon enough.  Today I've looked at correcting one final music and have rerecorded around 10 effects that I didn't do correctly first time around.  Charlie beer and I are making v good progress with proof check.

It's coming together.

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« Reply #3946 on: 2017-11-19 14:47:43 »
Noted. Yeah that's what i posted here, because a saw that you upload it... just did not know if that one works for R05c, because the folder says 1.3.1 but the program shows as 1.2.9.

The thing is that is that no matter if there is just 1 letter/number in the line, still gives an error.  So that's what i'm thinking is something else. Anyways thanks for answering and the mod.

Post your text file in the ts thread and make sure you are using the link I posted near the end of the thread too.

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« Reply #3947 on: 2017-11-21 16:21:23 »
I've just come across the Beacause project. What an amazing feat! I really appreciate the nuanced approach to the translation, not being entirely "literal translation" but not going too far with "adaptation" either. I don't agree with all the decisions I've seen, but I greatly admire the thought and effort that has clearly been put in. Much more than the original translation, it would seem ;)

Coming to this for the first time, I see there's a R04 release for PSX and a R05c for PC. Is there much difference between them? I was hoping to do a replay of FF7 on an emulator on my phone, but if R05 is a significant improvement I may prefer not to. And is it worth holding out for R06 "when it's done" or is that potentially far away?

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« Reply #3948 on: 2017-11-23 10:20:57 »
R05 is a significant improvement, yes.  But R07 will be the finalization and I'd wait for it.  R06 will at least be a very good update of the translation, but it won't be 100% signed off until R07. This is because R07 will have a completed proof check by Shikun, and a final revision. Grammar will massively be improved also.  The dialogue windows will be placed properly.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #3949 on: 2017-11-23 13:31:31 »
Question.

I watched the most recent part of that Kotaku translation venture, and it came up that Heidegger's JP name is actually closer to Heidecker. I actually checked just for shits and giggles, but sure enough, even a bad translator translates ハイデッカー (Haidekkā) into High Decker. I'm curious, because the database only links to the Martin Heidegger wikipedia page, but gives no other reasoning for keeping the name Heidegger. What are your thoughts on this?