[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.99994)

[Sega Chief]

Ah, so that's what it was. When you wrote fflevel the first time, I thought it was a typo. So the different regions have different names for their files on the 1998 version; I better add that info to the thread.

[Walter253]

I'm glad that my "problem" give you some new information 
Im going to start a new game and enjoy your mod aswell, cya bud'

[Sega Chief]

Hope you enjoy it, bud; if you run into any trouble, let me know.

[Mirenheart]

not sure if this was mentioned yet, but manipulating Beach Plugs seems to have a problem with Big Guard. as for them its still a multitarget skill, but the actual skill itself is only single target.
This causes big guard to randomly target, which has led me to about 10 minutes of rage trying to get big guard to be used on the one person who actually had Enemy Skill, and continually failing.

[Sega Chief]

That's bizarre, I'll try editing the flags for the skill in the scene but I'd assumed it would pull that info from the kernel.

[Zara9]

hey sega chief

will the tifa bootleg mod work with your mod?

[Sega Chief]

I don't think it works properly.

[Mirenheart]

Thought I'd bring something else up. I got a Luck Source in Nibelheim from one of the caped guys on the second floor of the southern most house, and from the one in the kitchen of the inn. I remember you saying you removed all the sources for the moment, so I wasnt sure if this was intentional or if you simply missed it.

[Sega Chief]

It's been mentioned before, but I don't know if I forgot about it (again) or if it's still present in the 1.2 7H version. I'll double-check the main installer files in any case.

[Zara9]

hey sega chief

how can i install your mod on 7th heaven

[Sega Chief]

Currently it's done through Alyza's catalog, it's under the Gameplay modifications category.

[natepley]

Hi Sega Chief,

I've talked with you before on the Insane Difficulty forums.  I was the guy with a long list of ideas for modding FF7 including adding some elemental spells, reintroducing tonberries and ochus, displaying weapon bonuses, etc.  I played your mod up to Junon, but I haven't really been playing games at all since then.  Life is taking me in other directions for now.  But I do get on these forums and read about the progress you're making.  I can't wait to play the mod again soon!

Last night I woke up with another idea about how to change AP growth so that players can only equip materia that they want to use and don't have to worry about loading up on materia for AP grinding.  I'm not sure if it's possible, but it seems like it could be cool.  It's related to your idea for changing how characters grow their stats through events rather than experience.

What if players gained/upgraded new spells (Fire -> Fire2) through events or quests, rather than having to keep Fire materia equipped for the entire game to keep leveling it up.  If an event leveled up the materia, then players would only equip Fire when they really wanted to use it.  Events could also be used to power up summons.  At least in the PSX version, I assume that different discs of the game could have different strength levels for the same attack, so in disc 3 Choco Mog could be stronger than in disc 1 (I think this is the case) so it could still be a viable attack throughout the game.  Not sure if something like this could be used in the PC version.

Thanks for being open to hearing my ideas and I hope they're helpful!  I don't know if they're possible or would be popular, but I think they'd be pretty cool!

Nathan

[Mirenheart]

It's been mentioned before, but I don't know if I forgot about it (again) or if it's still present in the 1.2 7H version. I'll double-check the main installer files in any case.

ahh, I used the "Main Installer - 11th March 2015" version

[Sega Chief]

Hi Sega Chief,

I've talked with you before on the Insane Difficulty forums.  I was the guy with a long list of ideas for modding FF7 including adding some elemental spells, reintroducing tonberries and ochus, displaying weapon bonuses, etc.  I played your mod up to Junon, but I haven't really been playing games at all since then.  Life is taking me in other directions for now.  But I do get on these forums and read about the progress you're making.  I can't wait to play the mod again soon!

Last night I woke up with another idea about how to change AP growth so that players can only equip materia that they want to use and don't have to worry about loading up on materia for AP grinding.  I'm not sure if it's possible, but it seems like it could be cool.  It's related to your idea for changing how characters grow their stats through events rather than experience.

What if players gained/upgraded new spells (Fire -> Fire2) through events or quests, rather than having to keep Fire materia equipped for the entire game to keep leveling it up.  If an event leveled up the materia, then players would only equip Fire when they really wanted to use it.  Events could also be used to power up summons.  At least in the PSX version, I assume that different discs of the game could have different strength levels for the same attack, so in disc 3 Choco Mog could be stronger than in disc 1 (I think this is the case) so it could still be a viable attack throughout the game.  Not sure if something like this could be used in the PC version.

Thanks for being open to hearing my ideas and I hope they're helpful!  I don't know if they're possible or would be popular, but I think they'd be pretty cool!

Nathan

I'd quite like a way of having Materia/spells be learned without player's feeling a need to load up on Materia, but we only have one set of files to work with on PC rather than three discs (or nine, if I remember what I read on Roden's thread correctly) like the PSX version. We do have 7H, though so it's not impossible to buff spells as you go through the game.

As far as learning spells through events go, I don't think I can add AP to a Materia from the field. I can have Materia be picked up with a pre-set amount of AP already on it (there's a Lv.3 Destruct Materia in the dark cave sidequest, for instance) which can maybe offer something.

[natepley]

I'd quite like a way of having Materia/spells be learned without player's feeling a need to load up on Materia, but we only have one set of files to work with on PC rather than three discs (or nine, if I remember what I read on Roden's thread correctly) like the PSX version. We do have 7H, though so it's not impossible to buff spells as you go through the game.

As far as learning spells through events go, I don't think I can add AP to a Materia from the field. I can have Materia be picked up with a pre-set amount of AP already on it (there's a Lv.3 Destruct Materia in the dark cave sidequest, for instance) which can maybe offer something.

Thanks for your quick answer!

I guess if I knew that, whenever the author of the mod felt it was time for the player to have bolt 2, I'd receive/win/find a level 2 lightning materia (then maybe later a shop that sells level 2 materia), then I wouldn't need to always have my lightning materia equipped unless I wanted to use bolt or pair it with Elemental materia.  Once I get my level 2 lightning materia, I could either save my level 1 materia to raise with AP later or sell them.  This kind of system could make a physical tank with slotless equipment much more useable without the regret of missing out on AP.

As for the summons, I really don't know anything about 7H so I'll take your word for it.

From your answer it sounds like something similar to what I imagined could be possible.  That's exciting.  I'll keep following your progress till I'm ready to pick up a controller again.

[Sega Chief]

I'm rebuilding the Arrange beta at the moment, so I'll have a shot at implementing this into it and see if it works out or not.

[natepley]

Sweet!  I'll keep reading the forums to see what happens!  Thanks!

[Zara9]

hey sega chief

where in the Gameplay modifications category on 7th heaven can i find your mod

[Sega Chief]

You need to install the gameplay categories first, then configure it to enable NT.

[Zara9]

hey sega chief

how can i configure 7th heaven to enable your NT mod on it

[Sega Chief]

Well, once you've downloaded it through the Catalog, activate it in the Library tab (click Search first to make it appear). Then go to Active Mods and a button there will say Configure. You can select New Threat from a drop-down list in there. After you're done, click Launch Game.

[Zara9]

hey sega chief

what is the iro link to this Catalog?

[Walter253]

I just noticed that I did not uptaded the ff7.exe , not sure if it is needed too , actually I'm running it with the ff7.exe from gjoerulv - mostly for the change he made for the limit break - so I don't know, did I need a new ff7.exe for the shops?

[Sega Chief]

hey sega chief

what is the iro link to this Catalog?

When you open 7H, go to the Catalog tab and click 'Search'. This will display the catalog by default. If nothing is shown, then you haven't set up 7H properly.

I just noticed that I did not uptaded the ff7.exe , not sure if it is needed too , actually I'm running it with the ff7.exe from gjoerulv - mostly for the change he made for the limit break - so I don't know, did I need a new ff7.exe for the shops?

The NT Mod's .exe patch is optional; actually, it's more like a prototype than an actual part of the mod itself. It isn't required in any case, and the mod should work with other .exes like Gjoerulvs.

[Patrick]

Hi Sega Chief
Thank you so much for the mod! I've been playing it for the past month have been having a great time!  I'm in the endgame, and have cleared most of the new Battle Square bosses and am currently attempting to take on the Goldberries.  I just had a couple of questions/comments so far, if you wouldn't mind and have the time...
1) There is a new NPC standing at the ropeway entrance to Fort Condor. He seems to have no real purpose, am I missing something here?
2) The Lv 70 cap is great, but is there a way to give experience points to lower level members even after the party leader has reached max level?  Not like it's a real problem, but with 9 members, I would have kept Tifa and Cid at lower levels if I knew that this mechanic existed. 
3) The new cactuar boss dropped the 7777 needles, but I never received the X-ATM core after the new fight by the corel reactor.  Should I keep looking?
Thanks again for making the mod, I'll be sure to follow future progress!