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Brain dead troll. Petty little wind up merchant. Too many of you around. You won't recieve any more posts from me here or PM because you aren't worth it.
Small minded prick. You don't add anything to this community or indeed to any forum you visit. Just another bored, mindless little baby. if I could get my hands on you id break your neck.
Or, as you later edited it:
Brain dead troll. Petty little wind up merchant. Too many of you around. You won't recieve any more posts from me here or PM because you aren't worth it.
Small minded prick. You don't add anything to this community or indeed to any forum you visit. Just another bored, mindless little baby. if I could get my hands on you id break your neck. Big hard man on the net eh ;)
And:
The guy above has no intenton of quitting or acting reasonably, he keeps hounding me all over the forum with his sly digs, sarcsm and wind up techniques (all crap like bringing this thread back) which is why I retaliated. He is a mindless jerk who needs a good smack.
So. You like to talk big. How about putting your money where your mouth is?
I propose a duel. Somewhere in Finland - I sure as hell am not going to pay for a trip, when it's you who can't keep your mouth shut - sometime in September. I'll find a secluded enough spot and organize a live webcam feed for entertainment of the peoplez. A weekend sounds reasonable, assuming you either work or go to school.
No weapons, just hand to hand combat. It makes most sense, since you seem to have something against my neck.
Now you have your chance to break my neck. If you can. I very much welcome the challenge. I'll be there, I promise. I wouldn't miss this for the world.
It's time to put up, or shut up. Which is it going to be?
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Somehow i doubt they will ban Jari even with the changed name
oh is it to the death or just first blood either way it will be entertaining but some countries have changed the laws of duals or removed them entirely i know there stil leagal in australia but thats only cause we dont upgrade out rules very often
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Well, considering that one of the admins and the owner agreed with me on this approach... :-D
Perhaps not to this extent, but with the basic concept. So, that would be nope. :wink:
But you bring up a very good point, I need to make the webcast pay-per-view. :-P
Zack Fair: I hope so. :-P I provide too much entertainment, after all. :P My identity is hardly a secret, the name is just a homage to Bioshock.
I dunno, he wanted to break my neck, which often tends to lead to death. :| That is open to negotiation, really. And yeah, there's that thing - they very likely are illegal here too. But I know a solution to that; we just won't tell anyone! Hush! :-D
EDIT: I, however, can't type anymore. I blame the Midsummer's Eve and bear.
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Well I for one give you my support :-D You've been here longer than Seifer has, and I would like to see this user taken down a few pegs.
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Bandito, please just stop this. You "may" be in the right, but your decision to continue this kind of behaviour just makes it worse.
Seifer, please dont go around PMing people and insulting them "privatly", because nothing is private on the net.
And most definitly please dont post anything in here.
:-(
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http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3105;sa=showPosts;start=0
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6159.msg78409#msg78409
Have a good read through the entire list and spot the pattern. This guy has been flaming here since the beginning (long before I arrived). he has wound up multiple posters, some I haven't seen back here and no wonder.
It is about time you lot stopped accepting this behaviour and just banned the idiot. (assuming he isn't pally with the mods which I fear he is)
If you want some good examples, I will post them.
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here is 1 I found right after he registered:
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By Emerald Weapon posts 297
Hey all,
I'm leaving Qhimm.com. My reasons for this are many, but among them are:
1. Certain people on the boards, one in particular.
2. The overall deteriorated state of the boards.
3. Too busy with everything other than being online, reading and posting. Think University, friends and so on.
I do not know if anyone cares about this at all, I just thought I'd let everyone know. I haven't been posting for over 2 months now, so I had practically left already.
This is just the official announcement, I think.
Let me add a little more explanation to the first two points.
Ad1:
I've become more and more annoyed by certain members here, which I will not name, because I am not out to turn this thread into yet another fight between people.
Let's just say these people seem to be able to somehow continue creating sh*tty-threads or making sh*tty-posts.
I'm very disappointed with one particular member, and his ways of treating me. I believe them to be unfair. I will not add anymore to this either. It comes down to the fact that the entire situation does not improve my enjoyment of Qhimm.com.
Ad2:
I'm just going to say this the way it is. The boards have deteriorated badly.
Qhimm.com isn't near what it used to be and nowadays even far away from the good things going on when the situation was already slightly "bad".
Stupid people keep creating stupid threads, fighting over stupid arguments and finding more and more ways to make fun of, attack or insult other members.
Besides this, the forums have become somewhat of a helpdesk for new people to just post one message, get an answer and get the f*** out of here.
New, fun threads aren't created anymore, and when they are spammed full of silly posts, using grammar that isn't even near Engrish.
I know all too well, that I myself have also been a part of this and contributed to the above mentioned things. I "understand" that and, though it was fun at the time itself, now I am not proud of some of my posts. It was, and still is, unnecessary and I hope that in whatever the future may hold for the forums it will not happen anymore. I fear it will though.
Basically it means I do not feel the need to post anymore. I have noticed I'm not the only one in this, more "older" members have been around a lot less and some have even left as well.
I'm not saying the boards have completely lost their touch or right to exist, because Q-Gears is still going strong and there are good threads in both TR and GT.
The heart of the forums is still beating, the body however has started to die slowly, but surely.
There are many things these boards need, but I am not going to summarize them here, because they are well known.
Last, but certainly not least, I would like to thank Qhimm for granting me the possibility to be here, for 3 years of my life, and with that the time I was able to spend with many great people.
(And hope to continue to do with some of them.)
It's been fun, it really has. Too bad it has to end like this.
For those of you that care: I will miss you and this place. See you someday, somewhere.
Reply Ammo:
But I will. These vague remarks only create rumors, so I might explain it just as well: EW here is basically b*tching that I don't talk to him - that's the way I 'treat him'.
What happened in a nutshell:
1) I asked EW to post a thread for me.
2) He agreed.
3) I asked EW to post a reply for me.
4) He whinyb*tched about how he will do it "if I really want it", but that it's "whine whine whine b*tch bith b*tch so forth".
5) I told him that he really does not have to go out of his way for me, but he neither has to talk to me, either. I will do lot for my friends, but I expect them to do the same for me. If not... tough luck. I proceeded to set IM blocks and avoid him on the IRC channel.
6) Due to some developments with Nori, I decided that encouraging her current behaviour could be very much counter-productive, so I came back.
7) This apparently bothered EW, since I got a whinyb*tch PM from him. Mind you, he succeeded in whinyb*tching without too many words, but the intent was rather obvious.
8) I replied pointing out my reasoning for my return, that I'm not angry at him, merely disappointed, some Nori-related stuff that's not for the public to know, that I do not wish to talk to him and that I'll place him into PM ignore after I send the message. And a comment about how he was the first person to whinyb*tch about my return.
9) Present.
So, this is more or less about me not talking to him. If he wants to consider that as one reason for his departure... well, that is his right.
*shrugs*
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It seems this troublesome member has already got rid of members, and 1 who has publicly stated it. How many more people will he wind up before you turf him? he is a complete low life who has been able to stay here since 2006 and wind up people, forcing 1 or 2 to leave.
Jari, Jari,.. *sigh* sad
It's really sad, not to mention unnessessary, to bring up all of these 'details'. EW was decent enough to not mention names, and until you replied, I had no idea he was referring to you. Does it really make you feel better to try to embaress people like this. Is it nessesary? Because it makes you appear as some kind of psycho(as in mental)-sadist, someone who derives pleasure from belittling and humilating others.
Just let it go. Please?
f***, I thought we got rid of you already Sad
Angst much, asshat? grin
Here's a free tip, you can always pretend that you are being persecuted by the cruel and unjust Jari, that way you can at least feel like a martyr. There are people here who would even agree with you, so maybe you can set up a secret club and share your stories! Tongue
Rest assured, opinions of idiots don't concern me, so don't waste your breath. However, better people than you have found out that pissing me off is a bad idea... so on the other hand, please continue.
There is a whole dossier on this guy and they all seem to reach this conclusion in the end about the said member.
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koral: Pfft. :-P He expressed a desire, I merely offer him an opportunity.
Seifer Almasy: I take it that you just declined my offer?
(http://borgborg.org/chicken.jpg)
And... BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Why are whining and bitching about banning me, instead of asking the admins - they are the only ones who can do it? And trust me, they have seen my posts. They have seen the posts from my previous accounts, as well. And during that ten years, they have never banned me, or said that they'd do so. Whining to the admins - that was what you were trying to do when you lied about what happened over at the TLS, so you do seem pretty apt at complaining to them. :-D
But hey, you are free to persuade them.
I'd suggest that you'd grow a pair, while waiting for them to ban me. It'd help you in life.
Pseudoedit: More than one member, actually. And I'm proud of it. :-D I take care of problems. For that matter, I can recall couple of people getting banned, because they had issues with me. :-P
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koral: Pfft. :-P He expressed a desire, I merely offer him an opportunity.
Seifer Almasy: I take it that you just declined my offer?
(http://borgborg.org/chicken.jpg)
And... BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Why are whining and b*tching about banning me, instead of asking the admins - they are the only ones who can do it? And trust me, they have seen my posts. They have seen the posts from my previous accounts, as well. And during that ten years, they have never banned me, or said that they'd do so. Whining to the admins - that was what you were trying to do when you lied about what happened over at the TLS, so you do seem pretty apt at complaining to them. :-D
But hey, you are free to persuade them.
I'd suggest that you'd grow a pair, while waiting for them to ban me. It'd help you in life.
Pseudoedit: More than one member, actually. And I'm proud of it. :-D I take care of problems. For that matter, I can recall couple of people getting banned, because they had issues with me. :-P
I am going to bring you up again adn again until you are banned or I am banned. But rest assured that my contribution to this forum will be missed a whole lot more than yours. You are disgraceful individual, a clown, an insufferable psycho. Still, I have my own forum which can be used as a back up in case the mods happen to favour your pathetic and horrible personality.
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I am going to bring you up again adn again until you are banned or I am banned. But rest assured that my contribution to this forum will be missed a whole lot more than yours. You are disgraceful individual, a clown, an insufferable psycho.
Awwwwww, thank you for the kind thoughts. :-D
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I am going to bring you up again adn again until you are banned or I am banned. But rest assured that my contribution to this forum will be missed a whole lot more than yours. You are disgraceful individual, a clown, an insufferable psycho.
Awwwwww, thank you for the kind thoughts. :-D
Well you started this you little cunt and I will finish it./ I won't just walk away I will see this through. I will make these mods decide one way or the other. If they don't deal with you then we will all know where we stand won't we. I am not prepared to sit around waiting for another 100 wind ups from you on every post and you are just the kind of psycho who wouldn't be phased by ignoring. So, we will see what the mods do won't we and then we will know the true reputation of Qhimm forums.
Either aplace that will not tolerate psychopathic bully boys or a place that just leaves them to it. You make me sick.
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Well you started this you little cunt and I will finish it./ I won't just walk away I will see this through. I will make these mods decide one way or the other. If they don't deal with you then we will all know where we stand won't we.
Indeed.
Just don't tell me I didn't warn you - I did that at the very beginning.
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Well you started this you little cunt and I will finish it./ I won't just walk away I will see this through. I will make these mods decide one way or the other. If they don't deal with you then we will all know where we stand won't we.
Indeed.
Just don't tell me I didn't warn you - I did that at the very beginning.
Oh I have pmed a few people here and I have let them know that you have the mods in your back pocket. But if you think that means I will just stay here and accept it, you don't know me. Adn if you think I would take a ban lying down, think again.
You have done nothing for these forums. Nothing. All you have done is get rid of members and start flame wars. The proof is all here on qhimms and you have been allowed to do it.
But now you have come up against me and I will force the issue.
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You have done nothing for these forums. Nothing. All you have done is get rid of members and start flame wars. The proof is all here on qhimms and you have been allowed to do it.
*chuckle*
You might want to consult the said admins and mods, before you make statements like that. Methinks they might even disagree. :wink:
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You have done nothing for these forums. Nothing. All you have done is get rid of members and start flame wars. The proof is all here on qhimms and you have been allowed to do it.
*chuckle*
You might want to consult the said admins and mods, before you make statements like that. Methinks they might even disagree. :wink:
Well looking at your ridiculous profile, there are 3 or 4 members right at the start who disagree with you and openly challenge your behaviour. 1 of them left and that isn't counting the ones who haven't publicly stated it.
There are 100 quotes I can use from your time here to show you tormenting member after member. You are defenseless. If you carry on I will begin listing them all.
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By all means, list them. Apparently you got plenty of time. :-D You are indeed making this thread really lulzworthy. :mrgreen:
They can all be found with search anyways, so... You surely can't assume that I'd want to hide something? Here's something you might want to consider, too; if you don't want someone to see something you said in public - DO NOT FUCKING SAY IT. Simple as that.
And for the PMs - which I thought you had sworn at least twice if not three times NOT to send anymore - the last one:
not so clever now.
How so? You really think I mind you doing this? I have told you before; you are really, really, really good at digging yourself deeper, and that's exactly what you are doing - certainly I am not going to stop you. So... Proceed, like certain bald space captain would say.
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What is the point of all this? I mean, really? Does it get you anywhere?
This... ALL of the problems you guys are talking about here are stemming from the fact that you feel the need to argue against a personal attack on the internet. Many people spend a lot of time trolling boards and irritating people for sheer vindictive pleasure. So what? It might be the opinion of many and may be just for a few laughs. What makes it humorous isn't just what is said, it's the fact that you reply and reply and reply and it spirals out of control.
Here's my advice - ignore each other.
SA, please don't continue this on the basis that "he's done this to other people before, he's this, he's that" thats a pile of bull. Just ignore whatever it is you don't like. If he was doing anything THAT bad, he would have been banned already. And if he is in the backpocket of the admin then boohoo. Don't make a drama out of something because you feel you're justified in doing so, he may have his reasons for saying what he's said.
Just my two cents.
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Up to Jari's/ammo's page 13 (I will do the rest if he carries on)
List of problem posts:
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6159.msg78386#msg78386 member leaves qhimm because of Jari
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6159.msg78389#msg78389 jari replies with yet more fuel
This whole thread is an example of Jari's behaviour in general.
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http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6163.msg78419#msg78419 "tell m something; is it painful to be so stupid"
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6183.msg78553#msg78553
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6207.msg78958#msg78958
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6236.msg79032#msg79032
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6236.msg79129#msg79129
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6277.msg79142#msg79142
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6277.msg79183#msg79183
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6259.msg79204#msg79204 "dude shut the f*** up right now"
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6277.msg79229#msg79229
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6259.msg79234#msg79234
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6305.msg79685#msg79685
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6305.msg79732#msg79732
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6313.msg79786#msg79786
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6371.msg80325#msg80325
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6238.msg80686#msg80686
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6238.msg80696#msg80696
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=5439.msg81277#msg81277
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6478.msg81378#msg81378
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=5904.msg81473#msg81473
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6507.msg81570#msg81570
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6492.msg81575#msg81575
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6505.msg81587#msg81587
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Just my two cents.
Your 2 cents should be aimed at a guy who has made a thread about me in order to cause more trouble and a guy who has made 1 member leave already and caused issues with others. if you are incapable of telling it as it is, then don't bother.
It isn't about being justified, it is about a person who won't leave me alone and has made me retaliate. If there was an ignore feature around here for posts it would be better wouldn't it.
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:-D
I've asked you this once before, and I'll ask it again; do you own a mirror?
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:-D
I've asked you this once before, and I'll ask it again; do you own a mirror?
As far as I am aware I haven't driven a few membrs to leave qhimms and mirror or not, the evidence on you is quite damning. Also, you use the same childish insults all through the year (I was laughing at them on my read through), do you lack originality?
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:-D
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:-D
The worst of it is, you are actually proud of your scummy behaviour. And the mods here aren't going to deal with you are they? Leaving you free to wind up as you choose for your own sadistic little pleasures. End of the day though, like the other poster mentioned, the one who looks like a wanker is you. The 10+ people you have had issues with on qhimms know you're an awful person and that isn't good for ego. I also like to add that I think you are rather unintelligent and unorginal :)
Every time you bring me up in posts I will be sending a link to the mods and a link here. That is all I have to say to you.
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your an awful person
Mine what? :-D
Why, thank you for your compliments. :-D
Every time you bring me up in posts I will be sending a link to the mods and a link here. That is all I have to say to you.
Please do. You seem to have problems grasping English, though. I've known both active admins for ten years - as long as I've posted here. I've known the only active moderator for almost as long.
They have seen my posts, you can be sure of that. So, if you want to annoy them, by all means spam them with this topic. They'll truly lessthanthree you after that.
Wait... what? Weren't you going to force them to ban one or the other? What's the matter, chickening out already? :-D
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I don't think you realise that I don't care... they will get the link because it is their job and if they don't deal with you, you will only create trouble for the next guy who will know all about you from the get go. I will make sure of it.
I will just show you up, whenever you try to wind me up ;) I will enjoy that. So carry on winding me up all you like, expect links to be posted. I cojldnt care less how long you have known the mods for, I am well aware of how sh*t moderating can be when you form friendships (something that doesn't happen on my forum, I have banned mates in the past).
I don't care whether I am banned. If I am, it will be completely unfair and it will appear like that to most people here and if you are left to torment me, likewise. I know how to deal with people like you.
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I don't think you realise that I don't care... they will get the link because it is their job and if they don't deal with you, you will only create trouble for the next guy who will know all about you from the get go. I will make sure of it.
It sure doesn't look like you don't care. :-D
I will just show you up, whenever you try to wind me up ;) I will enjoy that.
...and this does not appear very likely either, based on what you have done thus far. But hey, keep talking. :-D
I don't care whether I am banned. If I am, it will be completely unfair and it will appear like that to most people here and if you are left to torment me, likewise. I know how to deal with people like you.
*ahem* Indeed. :wink:
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I am well aware of how sh*t moderating can be when you form friendships (something that doesn't happen on my forum, I have banned mates in the past).
You cant stop friendship...if someone wants to be friends with a mod, then thats fine. You cant ban someone just for being someones friend.
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I am well aware of how sh*t moderating can be when you form friendships (something that doesn't happen on my forum, I have banned mates in the past).
You cant stop friendship...if someone wants to be friends with a mod, then thats fine. You cant ban someone just for being someones friend.
Who said that is the reason I want this dude banned? I want him banned because :
1. he winds up members continually (and forced 1 to leave)
2. he winds up me continually
3. he creates flame wars
4. he made a thread about me
I want the mods to be fair and atleast have a word with him about continual HARRASSMENT.
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Who said that is the reason I want this dude banned? I want him banned because :
4. he made a thread about me
LOLLERSKATES :lol:
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LOLLERSKATES :lol:
I'm gonna have to write that one down :-D
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Who said that is the reason I want this dude banned? I want him banned because :
4. he made a thread about me
LOLLERSKATES :lol:
As I said...baby language. It is amazing you don't realise how poorly that reflects on you.
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LOLLERSKATES :lol:
As I said...baby language. It is amazing you don't realise how poorly that reflects on you.
Brain dead troll. Petty little wind up merchant. Too many of you around. You won't recieve any more posts from me here or PM because you aren't worth it.
Small minded prick. You don't add anything to this community or indeed to any forum you visit. Just another bored, mindless little baby. if I could get my hands on you id break your neck.
You were saying?
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Pssst.....
Hey....
Over here....
yeah you!...
over here...
yeah over here...
Everyone on the internet is anonymous! Shhhhhhhh!
don't tell anyone.....
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Bandito, you have had your laugh, so can you quit it now?
This topic is VERY off-topic, but it's still annoying.
Seifer doesnt like Bandito, Bandito doesnt like Seifer
Point taken. :roll:
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So, yes, "Bandito", you got Seifer to reply to you again, and you got to directly antagonize him some more. I'm not sure what kind of personal feedback this provides you - no doubt something you perceive as good when it is actually quite damaging. So, as koral says, you've had your emotionally damaging "fun", now you can knock it off.
I have contacted one of the mods here prviately, who seems quite level-headed, and I don't believe he would ever condone this public display of personal attacks and childish mob mentality. I do hope that when he sees this, he has more sense than whatever (possibly make-believe) mod you claim is encouraging you in this behavior.
Were it up to me, I would consider banning you for your own good, as having this kind of behavior encouraged by others is surely going to turn you into an anti-social, delusional sociopath in your later adult life. Your "peers" here who do encourage you don't care - they're just using you as a tool for their own amusement, much as you believe you're using Seifer. Quite a vicious little circle, which the rest of us look down upon with a little bit of disgust and a little bit of sadness.
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BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW :-D
Good for you @ contacting a mod. :-)
And yeah, I've had my fun. Great fun it was, too. But more importantly, I think hope someone learned a lesson; threaten people with violence over the Intertubes - you better have what it takes to back it up. That actually was my reason for this thread. And the offer still stands, he's most welcome to try.
EDIT: I hope neither of you will get horribly upset if I don't get banned? :-P
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I didn't threaten you. I said IF I could get my hands on you, which is plainly impossible, and good news for you because I would leave you unconcious.
And you won't get banned, I have seen everything you have got away with and it is disgraceful. It makes a total mockery of the rules and this forum.
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I didn't threaten you. I said IF I could get my hands on you, which is plainly impossible, and good news for you because I would leave you unconcious.
LULZ
1) Would you bet on judge agreeing with you? I wouldn't.
2) I offered you that chance. Offer still stands. You just have to say yes, instead of posting more empty threats. :-D
And you won't get banned, I have seen everything you have got away with and it is disgraceful. It makes a total mockery of the rules and this forum.
I take it that you'll be leaving, then? :-D
You said it was you or me, after all. Or was that yet another empty threat? :-D
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This is my very last post to you, jerk. I will be seeking your removal and have already contacted the mods. I do not hold much hope that they will remove you or even warn you but I have done it.
Should they start on at me, fair enough I will just go to my own forum and watch as you start on the next person. Luckily they will be clued up. You need professional medical help.
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This is my very last post to you, jerk. I will be seeking your removal and have already contacted the mods. I do not hold much hope that they will remove you or even warn you but I have done it.
Should they start on at me, fair enough I will just go to my own forum and watch as you start on the next person. Luckily they will be clued up. You need professional medical help.
:-D
But you promised! :lol: Right here:
I am going to bring you up again adn again until you are banned or I am banned.
Then again, I've already lost count on how many times you have promised to never reply to me, never send me any PMs... You seem to be having problems making up your mind. :-P
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Awwwww. :-P
Well, he does have his own forum, you know. He sure has talked about it enough, just about every other time he goes on a hissy fit.
I doubt that anyone particularly wants him to leave, but I know few people who don't really care for his attitude - me included - and I have this habit of calling out bluffs.
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Ahhh I don't want Seifer to leave. He is the caith sith projects leader. And without him that project will die :cry:
And all my work (3 hours of modeling/texturing) will be for nothing. :x
Don't worry zarnik :) I have my forum for backup and I don't intend leaving. The project most certainly won't die, we started it and we will finish.,
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Hey boys! I'm back today! Umm, Ammo I'm someone in particular who wants Seifer gone. All talk and no walk, I do believe that is the saying. Wow, i'm too tired to even reply to this post.....
Hmmm. Seifer I think you do care because rather than just going to your own forum where you could be done with this problem, you continually stay and post here, causing a problem.
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He's not the only source of the problem. If everyone could find it in them to just drop this whole thing, it'd be over, but no...
My only input here is that this isn't headed anywhere good at the moment.
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The whole thing I find ironic about this thread is this post
As far as I am aware I haven't driven a few membrs to leave qhimms and mirror or not, the evidence on you is quite damning. Also, you use the same childish insults all through the year (I was laughing at them on my read through), do you lack originality?
Coming from someone who refers to anyone who objects him as "winding him up" or "ignorant fanboys" who oppose his projects.
he has wound up multiple posters
How many more people will he wind up before you turf him? he is a complete low life who has been able to stay here since 2006 and wind up people, forcing 1 or 2 to leave.
I am not prepared to sit around waiting for another 100 wind ups
Leaving you free to wind up as you choose
I will just show you up, whenever you try to wind me up
So carry on winding me up all you like
1. he winds up members continually (and forced 1 to leave)
2. he winds up me continually
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1627/winduplol.jpg)
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I was wondering when you would be back. Aren't you supposed to be back at that wind up infested shit hole? Stop coming here creating even more trouble. Are you really that bored? I know I am removinga stuffed toy from the game and changing your porno mag, but that is no reason to lose your mind with me.
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Y'know man, while Silvers might be taking the mickey out of you now, it's really not doing you any favors acting as you are now.
It was this same sort of behavior, especially during the shitstorm over flunkies, that caused the dogpile in the first place. You take a lot of this way too personally and way too seriously from what I can see, especially with regards to criticism, even when legitimate or constructive, and yes, several comments you reacted poorly to were intended with good or well reasoned intention, not simple 'winding up' or 'fanboyism.'
You also make actual trolling and getting your goat way too easy and fun for those interested by the same token. Just let it go, man, and it'd drop off if not just vanish.
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Who asked you for your opinion? This thread shouldn't even be here and nor should she (or the others who have arrived from your lovely forum and refuse to go), since she has no intention of contributing to this forum or any of its mods. She just loves the drama and I have read her ill educated and rather basic posts plastered all over Lifestream (constant sarcasm, constant sly digs, constant intolerance, constant ganging up, constant misrepresentation and a whole host of misdemeanors stemming from pure ignorance and fanboysim). The only one who needs bollocking here is the creator of this thread. There isn't any colour here, it is black and white. This member has already got rid of a few members here, 1 of them long term (he hounded him out. if you look through his posts you will see what the guy is up to, he has simply latched onto me as his next victim and people ike you help feed him instead of just telling him to piss off. It isn't my problem when somebody refuses to let go. i did. Silvers didn't and nor did ammo. Stop trying desperately to find a way of blaming me for it. I didn't create threads about members and I won't accept bull sh*t trying to defend the action, make excuses or otherwie play it down.
The problem here lies squarely with the creator of this thread (by his own admission purely for his own kicks) and with other people who come here trying to defend his inexcusable FLAME WARS and goading.
I was told to give silvers a break and give her another chance....she has already blown it.
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I am sick of replying in these pathetic threads anyway....just carry on and wear yourselves out. Write what you like, think what you like, say what you like about me it won't change the fact that the author of this thread is a cunt out to create trouble for his own perverted gratification and who would fit in nicely with most forums. He doesn't fit in here (which is why he spends 80% of his posts in the offtopic sections) so let's hope he f***s off or gets run over. Preferably dies soon.
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Who asked you for your opinion? This thread shouldn't even be here and nor should she, since she has no intention of contributing to this forum or any of its mods. She just loves the drama and I have read her ill educated and rather basic posts plastered all over Lifestream (constant sarcasm, constant sly digs, constant intolerance, constant ganging up, constant misrepresentation and a whole host of misdemeanors stemming from pure ignorance and fanboysim). The only one who needs bollocking here is the creator of this thread. There isn't any colour here, it is black and white. This member has already got rid of a few members here, 1 of them long term. if you look through his posts you will see what the guy is up to, he has simply latched onto me as his next victim and people ike you help feed him instead of just telling him to piss off. It isn't my problem when somebody refuses to let go. i did. Silvers didn't and nor did ammo. Stop trying desperately to find a way of blaming me for it. I didn't create threads about members and I won't accept bull sh*t trying to defend the action, make excuses or otherwie play it down.
The problem here lies squarely with the creator of this thread (by his own admission purely for his own kicks) and with other people who come here trying to defend his inexcusable FLAME WARS and goading.
I was told to give silvers a break and give her another chance....she has already blown it.
I am sick of replying in these pathetic threads anyway....just carry on and wear yourselves out. Write what you like, think what you like, say what you like about me it won't change the fact that the author of this thread is a cunt out to create trouble for his own perverted gratification and who would fit in nicely with most forums. He doesn't fit in here (which is why he spends 80% of his posts in the offtopic sections) so let's hope he f***s off or gets run over. Preferably dies soon.
(http://borgborg.org/687fea91677be9103defb8dc0b97e8b7.gif)
Oh yeah, hai Channy. :-D I'd insert an appropriate Yo Dawg here, about awesome, you, and this thread, but can't come up with anything nearly awesome enough. :P
Seifer... Ryu hit the nail on the head. So well that I briefly considered telling him to shut up, so he wouldn't spoil my fun, but apparently that would have been entirely unnecessary. I'd suggest reading his post. Again and again, until you understand what he says.
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I'm sorry Seifer, did you say something? I couldn't hear you over the melodramatic fanboyism comments and constant wind ups.
If you really sat back and took the time to carefully plan out your posts instead of always having to edit them and double/triple/quadruple post all the time, people might take you more seriously. Because the more you backpeddle on your insults only to reiterate them, the more of a fool you make yourself out to be.
Bandito: ohey bby, thanks. I did that for you. <3
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http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8552.msg106300#msg106300
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I am sick of replying in these pathetic threads anyway....
O RLY?
<3 @ Channy. :-)
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What's the relevance of that link? Is Seifer trying to call you a slut? D;
<33 long time bby
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Who asked you for your opinion? This thread shouldn't even be here and nor should she, since she has no intention of contributing to this forum or any of its mods. She just loves the drama and I have read her ill educated and rather basic posts plastered all over Lifestream (constant sarcasm, constant sly digs, constant intolerance, constant ganging up, constant misrepresentation and a whole host of misdemeanors stemming from pure ignorance and fanboysim). The only one who needs bollocking here is the creator of this thread. There isn't any colour here, it is black and white. This member has already got rid of a few members here, 1 of them long term (he hounded him out. if you look through his posts you will see what the guy is up to, he has simply latched onto me as his next victim and people ike you help feed him instead of just telling him to piss off. It isn't my problem when somebody refuses to let go. i did. Silvers didn't and nor did ammo. Stop trying desperately to find a way of blaming me for it. I didn't create threads about members and I won't accept bull sh*t trying to defend the action, make excuses or otherwie play it down.
The problem here lies squarely with the creator of this thread (by his own admission purely for his own kicks) and with other people who come here trying to defend his inexcusable FLAME WARS and goading.
I was told to give silvers a break and give her another chance....she has already blown it.
You do realise Ryu was trying to help you stop looking like a complete and utter knob, right?
Anyway, what you're doing is just exacerbating the situation.
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Well people,of qhimms, I hope you are satisfied. Ammo, has now brought back all the others from life stream forums (which was his intention). So congratulate him on a job well done.
I am close to moving back to my own forum and leaving this lot here. I am sure the most decent of you will sign up to carry on the work we have started, but I am not going to waste my time waiting for the mods to sort these people out as it will take way too long.
When I am gone, I hope you are satisfied that you have a member here who has got rid of yet another decent contributor.
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Before you go throwing about wild accusations, you may wish to note that Ammo actually wasn't the person who notified us of this thread's existence.
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Before you go throwing about wild accusations, you may wish to note that Ammo actually wasn't the person who notified us of this thread's existence.
The thread exists, and he wrote it. or is that too fucking basic you?
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Channy: LOL, maybe. :-D Either that, or it has something to do with up and winding, I suspect.
But, I have to hit the sack, it's like 05:40 and I have this meeting-thingy tomor today.
Pseudoedit: Why, thank you Seifer. Always happy to improve the forum in any way I can. :-D
Hush Aaron! Don't spoil it! :-D
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Before you go throwing about wild accusations, you may wish to note that Ammo actually wasn't the person who notified us of this thread's existence.
The thread exists, and he wrote it. or is that too f***ing basic you?
You wrote:
Well people,of qhimms, I hope you are satisfied. Ammo, has now brought back all the others from life stream forums (which was his intention). So congratulate him on a job well done.
He didn't bring us back. As far as I know, he doesn't even have an account at TLS, so claiming him making this thread resulted in Lifestream members posting here again is puzzling, to say the least. Surely, if you're going to blame someone, you should at least blame the person who notified us that you still haven't learned how to conduct yourself on the internet.
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You see you are basic..... he has brought you back. by starting this thread. Do you even have a brain?
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He didn't bring us back by starting this thread. None of us had the faintest idea this thread even existed until guitar_dudester91 posted notifying us that this thread existed.
However, blaming either of them for bringing us back is allocating blame erroneously, since had you not been posting in such a transparently dramatic manner there would have been no incentive for any of us to come back here and engage you in confrontation. The only person you have to blame for that is yourself.
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Surely, if you're going to blame someone, you should at least blame the person who notified us that you still haven't learned how to conduct yourself on the internet.
In all fairness, almost no one in this thread has demonstrated such an ability.
Seifer, I would certainly recommend no longer replying in this thread, or any other directly antagonizing threads. It only gives others more of a delusional "moral high ground", and this isn't a situation you can come out on top of in the eyes of those who are against you. The rest of us have no interest in who is right or wrong, in whatever has transpired to lead to this blatantly mindless thread's creation. At this point, both parties are beyond wrong.
On a side note, I'm disappointed in the personal character of any mod/admin that has come and gone without addressing this thread. We don't need a place with real creative projects and collaborations being sullied by 4chan behavior. 1 thread is fine, certainly - it's passively encouraging this behavior that is unacceptable.
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My initial post in this thread was an attempt to help Seifer defuse the amount of antagonism he has to face, but seeing as he responded to that by insulting me I now have no interest in this particular exchange beyond pointing out his rank hypocrisy. I hardly see how pointing out hypocrisy equates to "not knowing how to conduct oneself on the internet."
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You should know better than that, V. When someone is being antagonized, and you come in with a statement along the lines of "You know x was only trying to keep you from looking like a <derogitory term>, right?", that is, of course, adding fuel to the fire. It does not matter in such a climate if that person is right or wrong, if the situation has degenerated to a level where that person is already viciously defending themselves.
Correctly conducting oneself, on the internet or not, requires some level of social sensibiliy, and an ability to evaluate the social environment before entering into a "conversation". Most importantly, it requires a sense of what is socially and personally productive, and what isn't.
That said, do notice I said "almsot no one", as opposed to "no one".
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How was he being antagonised at all by Ryu's post? Or for that matter, the majority of posts in this thread? As far as I'm aware the only people who can be considered to have "antagonised" him at all are Ammo and guitar_duedester, at least if "antagonised" means anything more severe than "disagreeing with", and even then, Ammo is mostly just responding to Seifer's insults.
Seifer has said much worse about other people, so I assumed he was capable of taking a simple statement (that he was acting like a knob) in stride. Maybe I was naïve to assume that - actually, after reviewing the entirety of this thread, I almost certainly was. But still, pointing out that good advice is good advice shouldn't be construed as "antagonism."
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I don't think you believe most of that. The correct thing to say was "Ryu was only trying to help you out there, Seifer" if you really felt the need to contribute anything so blatant. Seifer is most likely aware of that, but he's been driven into a corner by this other nonsense, so naturally he is going to take a defensive (which often means offensive as the defensive) posture.
I think what you may be doing here is pretending to be naive of certain social sensibilities, in the hope that others won't call them out. But if you aren't doing that, I do encourage you to think more about the actual social circumstances here, and why piling more insults on top of Seifer was not the right thing to do. Of course, I don't mean to single you out at all. Your contributions to this thread are nothing compared to some of the genuinely childish posts here.
Should you wish to actually pursue a debate here on social rights and wrongs, do feel free to PM me, as I have no interest in further contributing to this trainwreck, but I do have interest in genuinely helping others expand their views.
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Why is it natural for him to be defensive? He could just admit that yes, he's been overly quick to react, that yes, he's done a lot of the stuff he's accused others of doing, that yes, he hasn't always thought things through. In fact, if he admitted those things, all the problems he is currently facing will go away.
I will be the first to admit that I could have phrased my opening post more politely, but if he requires politeness before he is willing to listen to others, then the underlying problem with which he has not yet dealt will not have been solved. Most of the posts in here are not flames. They may be a little bit blunt but most of them stop shy of personal insults; they remain simple denunciations of specific actions, which are not the same thing as personal insults at all.
And dismissing posts as "childish" just because they aren't phrased particularly politely doesn't speak particularly well of your attitude either.
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I think this is over now, at least for a few weeks; Seifer seems to have left for his own forum.
Nothing against him, but once the problems began at the lifestream forums, that's when all the "chan" behavior began occurring here.
Now hopefully he does decide to return here as he does have a lot he could contribute, and maybe he will have taken Ryushikaze's advice on ignoring all the "antagonists". Surely anyone with a younger brother or sister has learned this already (4yr younger sister and 6yr younger brother) :-P
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Ummm well Its true I brought them back. Because it was just soooo much fun to see Seifer flop around like a fish out of water! :-D
Umm I wasn't an asshole, and I didn't start this. I gave him criticism on a certain project, and I don't feel I was an asshole about it. It is the same situation that happened at TLF. So if he can't accept someone's criticism, or the popular vote, then that's his problem. Sure I antagonized him after that, but I'd like to think it was severe disagreement, like V said.
MrAdults, posting in this thread alone is enough to show your chosen side, especially after saying your piece to V alone, not Seifer too.
I'm happy he finally came through on his threats to go back to his own forum, but I highly doubt that he will never return.
Its a pity that he never took Amoo up on his offer 8-)
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My "side" is the organic result of my better judgment, as I have no personal allegiance to anyone on this forum. :) The only person here that I perhaps know well enough to consider a personal friend would be koral. I do have respect and fondness of the forums themselves, however, because they have hosted many admirable engineering and creative projects over their many years. So please try to avoid making a mockery of them, and driving off members that actually do something for the community, simply for your own ego satisfaction.
On the note of childishness, I'm not entirely fond of misdirection, so I might as well point it out - I never even implied that Ryu's post was antagonistic, or that a lack of polite form indicated a post was "childish". What does indicate such, among many things, is a blatant lack of consideration for the implications or effect of one's post in any conversation.
In short to sum up my actual feelings on the matter (from elsewhere):
These people are very slippery and easy to be antagonized by if you don't recognize their petty tactics, so I really can't totally blame Seifer. He's probably learned a lesson from it, but such lessons can be learned in a far more civil manner, so I see no truly viable justification for the attackers in that thread.
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I have no doubt that if Seifer had taken the high road and not responded here, they would have continued following him around antagonizing him in every thread, which was having visible effects on how irritable he was with other members. To which I can also not wholly blame him - he was feeling a desperate need to prove himself after being repeatedly shat upon by this mob.
And there you have it. Accuse me of choosing sides or having a terrible personality all you want, but I've formed my opinions through purely unbiased observations, in relation to any individual's position. :) And really, you summed up the most socially reprehensible aspect of this thread yourself, guitar_dudester91:
Because it was just soooo much fun to see Seifer flop around like a fish out of water! :-D
This is the thinking of many here, they just aren't quite so honest in saying it outright, for which I mildly commend you. ;)
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That was very well said.
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On the note of childishness, I'm not entirely fond of misdirection, so I might as well point it out - I never even implied that Ryu's post was antagonistic, or that a lack of polite form indicated a post was "childish". What does indicate such, among many things, is a blatant lack of consideration for the implications or effect of one's post in any conversation.
On the note of childishness, I'm not entirely fond of misdirection, so I might as well point it out - I never even implied that you implied that Ryu's post was antagonistic, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to respond as though I, or anyone else for that matter, had accused you of saying otherwise. You did dismiss the majority of posts in this thread as "childish" shortly after you criticised me for not being perfectly polite in my opening response to Seifer, so I presumed the charges were related; I apologise for making the assumption. In any case, tell me, what in any of Bandito's posts in this thread is a "personal attack", as you have claimed elsewhere in the thread? He opened this thread by pointing out statements Seifer made and suggesting that he should back those statements up in real life. How is that a personal attack, or for that matter, even particularly antagonistic? Seifer has responded to this by flaming him in virtually every post he has made in this thread, ironically while accusing Bandito of "flaming." The vast majority of what Bandito has done in response has been to turn most of Seifer's statements in on themselves, and in some cases he has actually given him some genuinely helpful advice that, if followed, would have saved a Seifer a lot of grief ("grow a pair," "If you do not want people to see a statement of yours, DO NOT POST IT"). Again, I do not see this as particularly antagonistic. So who exactly is being "childish"? Seifer could just abstain from posting in this thread if he wanted to, or he could simply have politely declined the offer, both of which would have provided Bandito with absolutely no ammunition for an argument and thereby saved Seifer a lot of grief.
Moreover, just because a post is not phrased as politely as possible, as many others in this thread are not, does not mean that it is created with "a blatant lack of consideration for the implications or effect" it may have. Should people be required to tiptoe around expressing themselves just because a poster has shown himself or herself to be incapable of taking criticism? There's no rule on the internet sparing people's feelings. Indeed, sometimes causing offence is the best way to induce a positive change in another individual. Certainly, if it is done often enough for precisely the same reason, an intelligent individual will be able to see the common thread in cases in which he is offended. There is a very common trend in the exchanges in which I have seen Seifer participate: someone disagrees with him; he takes offence and begins to hurl insults; he is both mocked and presented with serious advice for doing so; he responds to both with further insults; repeat cycle until he feels need to leave forum. This is effectively how it proceeded on TLS, and it appears to be how it proceeded here (although I have admittedly not read all posts in this thread). Life essentially presents us with the same lesson repeatedly until we learn from it. At some point Seifer is going to have to learn deal with honest disagreement, or even a fair bit of mockery, without utterly blowing up as he has done here in thread after thread here. I only learnt to deal with such matters through a process of baptism by fire on the Internet; thus I cannot see antics like the ones in this thread as particularly harmful in the long term.
That said, I don't doubt that Bandito almost certainly doesn't have such noble goals in mind with his posts; he had seen little reason to believe that Seifer would respond to this thread by doing anything other than flaming him and demanding his removal, as he predictably did. But how is he being the "childish" one here by laughing at Seifer's constant temper tantrums or giving Seifer the genuinely helpful advice to "grow a pair"? You stated in your OP that he was likely to become an "anti-social, delusional sociopath" if people continued laughing at such behaviour from him. Don't you think you might be engaging in the slippery slope fallacy, or that that's a little harsh? Bandito seems intelligent enough to be able to tell the difference between laughing at someone's constant temper tantrums on the internet and the behaviour of a remorseless socipoath. Why does he have a social responsibility to treat Seifer politely in the off-topic forum, where Seifer can just ignore it?
In short to sum up my actual feelings on the matter (from elsewhere):These people are very slippery and easy to be antagonized by if you don't recognize their petty tactics, so I really can't totally blame Seifer. He's probably learned a lesson from it, but such lessons can be learned in a far more civil manner, so I see no truly viable justification for the attackers in that thread.
I have no doubt that if Seifer had taken the high road and not responded here, they would have continued following him around antagonizing him in every thread, which was having visible effects on how irritable he was with other members. To which I can also not wholly blame him - he was feeling a desperate need to prove himself after being repeatedly shat upon by this mob.
I'm fairly certain he hasn't learned a lesson at all, since as far as I am aware he has accepted no responsibility for engaging in precisely the kind of behaviour for which he has criticised others. He could easily have defused this entire situation by admitting that he overreacted in various threads and that he had often done things which he had criticised others for doing. Had he done that, I am thoroughly convinced that the vast majority of people who have been criticising him would have accepted that there was little chance of further manipulation resulting in the desired response, and therefore would have simply given up responding to him.
You speculate that people "would have continued following him around antagonizing him in every thread," yet fail to provide a single example of this alleged antagonism. I have reviewed most of Bandito's posts toward Seifer in the last several weeks, and the vast majority are considerably less antagonistic than any post in this thread, and simply consist of him rebutting his points. There are a few that could be considered as questionable, but Seifer has rebutted to Bandito with language at least as severe, so I can see no particular grievous offence in these cases. guitar_dudester you might have a point with, but seriously, one person is not a "mob," as you claimed in the quoted section and have claimed elsewhere in this thread. I can't even find anyone else who posted anything questionable in this thread and also posted between the two times this place has been linked on TLS. Perhaps there are users I am simply unaware of whose post history I have not searched, but in any case I am simply responding to the evidence which I have reviewed.
In summary, what I take issue with in all of your above characterisations, and the primary reason I have written such a lengthy rebuttal, is your implication that people are being in any way "childish" by responding to Seifer's constant flaming with anything other than politeness, or that "almost no one in this thread has demonstrated" the ability "to conduct [themselves] on the internet." Certainly it is not nice for people to respond to his poorly conceived arguments by mocking them, but as far as I'm aware there's no rule that people have to be nice here; just that they have to refrain from flaming, which the vast majority of responses in this thread have done by every operative definition with which I'm familiar. It may be regrettable if Seifer chooses to leave the forum because he feels he has been unfairly treated in this thread and elsewhere; however, in taking offence at behaviours in which he himself has engaged on numerous counts all across this forum, he is the only one whom I can consider to have been behaving "childishly." Certainly, you can feel free to criticise Bandito and others for driving him off when this is a forum primarily presented to hacking projects. However, that is not what you have done here; you have directly insulted their maturity instead. I find this to be highly questionable.
edit: I should add that, on rereading this thread further, I suspect we may have completely different operational definitions of the word "antagonistic."
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What you say I imply is not at all what I imply. Whether this is intentional misdirection, or due to the way you've chosen to interpret my words, I cannot say. What I can say, is that it's a ridiculous cause to attempt to defend the maturity of the attackers in this thread, least of all Bandito. If you click back to page 1, there, you'll notice he's initiating a charade toward Seifer with the mock goal to engage him in physical combat, not to mention all of the aggressive undertones sprinkled in the posts preceding and inside of this thread. I have not insulted his Bandito's maturity in any way, however - I have pointed out that there is a distinct lack of maturity in his behavior, at least as seen in this thread.
Should you find the nature of such a thread mature, you have a great deal of growth to accomplish. For that, I do not fault you, but others should not have to suffer because you, or anyone else, has not yet realized the true nature of social courtesy. Such a simple, fundamental axiom applies here: "Two wrongs don't make a right".
Disagreements will always be made, and conflicts will happen, but this thread, or anything like it, should never be the end result.
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To be fair, the thread was titled "ATTN Seifer Almasy" for a reason. Numerous times the user has stated acts of violence or wishing the demise of another forum member. I guess this could have gone to a PM war, but putting those disturbing posts in a public forum, I don't blame the other for wanting to air out the dirty laundry. If members don't like it, take a look again at the thread title. If you want to pop a bag of popcorn and enjoy the fireworks, go at it. Cutting into an argument with those that can speak for themselves, telling them to stop, stating your allegiance (or lack thereof), their feelings on the matter, or their own moral polarity on teh intern3ts is simply unwarranted. You want to point out hypocrisy made by one, fine they did make the argument public. If it's between two people let their discussion/argument run its course. Don't have a moderator step into a topic posted in Completely Unrelated that has the attention for one member in its subject line. What does that solve? Who wants a censored forum? If the mob had left the thread between the two, it may not have escalated as it did. Seifer could have made a dozen more threats then left, but we'll never know, it could have ended better.
If you click back to page 1, there, you'll notice he's initiating a charade toward Seifer with the mock goal to engage him in physical combat, not to mention all of the aggressive undertones sprinkled in the posts preceding and inside of this thread. I have not insulted his Bandito's maturity in any way, however - I have pointed out that there is a distinct lack of maturity in his behavior, at least as seen in this thread.
He was responding to the post previously made by Seifer Almasy (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8485.msg105853#msg105853). I would say the duel was just a witty response to an empty threat.
Should you find the nature of such a thread mature, you have a great deal of growth to accomplish. For that, I do not fault you, but others should not have to suffer because you, or anyone else, has not yet realized the true nature of social courtesy. Such a simple, fundamental axiom applies here: "Two wrongs don't make a right".
There's another good one: "Mind your own business."
Disagreements will always be made, and conflicts will happen, but this thread, or anything like it, should never be the end result.
Please read the thread title again.
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What you say I imply is not at all what I imply. Whether this is intentional misdirection, or due to the way you've chosen to interpret my words, I cannot say. What I can say, is that it's a ridiculous cause to attempt to defend the maturity of the attackers in this thread, least of all Bandito. If you click back to page 1, there, you'll notice he's initiating a charade toward Seifer with the mock goal to engage him in physical combat, not to mention all of the aggressive undertones sprinkled in the posts preceding and inside of this thread. I have not insulted his Bandito's maturity in any way, however - I have pointed out that there is a distinct lack of maturity in his behavior, at least as seen in this thread.
Should you find the nature of such a thread mature, you have a great deal of growth to accomplish. For that, I do not fault you, but others should not have to suffer because you, or anyone else, has not yet realized the true nature of social courtesy. Such a simple, fundamental axiom applies here: "Two wrongs don't make a right".
Disagreements will always be made, and conflicts will happen, but this thread, or anything like it, should never be the end result.
What you say I imply is not at all what I imply. Whether this is intentional misdirection, or due to the way you've chosen to interpret my words, I cannot say.
(Incidentally, I apparently misinterpreted yours; perhaps I read too much subtext into your responses).
I have never said Bandito, or indeed anything in this thread, was perfectly mature. The "perfectly mature" thing would be to keep reminding Seifer that his temper is simply digging him into further holes, or simply to abstain from commenting at all. However, the "perfectly mature" action does not always bring the kind of self-reflection necessary for a true personality change. We can tell Seifer to get a hold of his temper as much as we want, but no matter how often we tell him to do so, this will not make him realise his faults if he is unwilling to admit they exist. As I said, I went through a very similar sequence of actions on another message board long ago; what ultimately drove me to the realisation was that I was suffering the same kind of abuses at the hands of others as a direct result of my own actions. It was only after a period of particularly severe abuses that I finally came to this realisation; had I not received those abuses, I would never have undergone the period of self-reflection necessary for me to learn this lesson. As a result, I am actually grateful to the people whose "childish" actions eventually forced me to this realisation.
No, the term of yours with which I brooked disagreement was "childish," because of its absurd severity; it implies the behaviour of a six-year-old, which is naturally overcome with age. Clearly this is not the case, as anyone will be able to determine by simply observing the world in which we live, rife as it is with all kinds of absurd intrigue that make the behaviours in this thread look downright civilised. It is "childish" to sleep with a teddy bear; it is not "childish" to engage in behaviours which are carried out by humans of all ages. Grossly destructive? Often. Lacking in warmth? Probably. Bullying? Maybe. Childish? No.
My disagreement with your posts has nothing to do with the fact that I "have not yet realised the true nature of social courtesy," and I find your implication that I have not to be particularly insulting coming from someone who presumes such an advanced degree of compassion for others. I simply feel that a society in which everyone feels the necessity to tiptoe around offending one another to be completely anathematical to my principles; it reeks of the absurd kind of political correctness that gets people censured for using "man" rather than "person" as a job description.
Your assertion that "others should not have to suffer" is naïve at best. Suffering is, more often than not, what brings personal growth. I am not saying that suffering should be deliberately inflicted in all cases, but I am saying that its infliction is not in all cases socially destructive. Sometimes it's actually necessary.
That said, of course there's no guarantee that Bandito will respond to his treatment here by learning the lesson he so urgently needs to learn. But there's no social responsibility on anyone here to treat him with kid gloves just because he apparently has a lot of growth to do.
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There's another good one: "Mind your own business."
A post centered around telling me that the subject is none of my business, in a thread completely unrelated to yourself - while I don't generally agree with the notions you assert, it seems difficult to miss the gross hypocrisy, if you hold these beliefs.
V, you can drag this into a massive debate on human philosophy, but that's another form of misdirection. If you have to take something this far to justify the antisocial, immature behavior exhibited in the thread to begin with, it seems to completely defeat the point, and simply produces more angry flailing in the wind.
Indeed, the conflict should have been between two people - this thread was in response to threats of violence from Seifer, which was in response to Bandito pissing him off, which was in response to Seifer's attitude over something or other. Like I said, both sides are wrong, two wrongs don't make a right, and so forth - in the end the behavior in this thread is still not justified. And, yes, calling someone out in a thread like this is childish, especially in making a public display out of it. Perhaps not on the level of a 6 year old, but it's definitely something a 12-16 year old would do. Perhaps we should start a debate on when a person stops being considered a child, and how childish might apply in a metaphorical sense. Or perhaps there's no getting through to the aggressors in this thread, which is partly why Seifer is gone - but I trust the rest of us appreciate the truth of what's happened here, and I hope the mods/admins take a more aggressive stance on nipping these things in the bud in the future.
That's the end of the subject for me. Feel free to irrationally justify your behavior and make aggressive statements against me henceforth, though I warn you that I cannot be your new Seifer. ;)
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Everyone else beside MrAdults: Eat all the dicks.
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V, you can drag this into a massive debate on human philosophy, but that's another form of misdirection. If you have to take something this far to justify the antisocial, immature behavior exhibited in the thread to begin with, it seems to completely defeat the point, and simply produces more angry flailing in the wind.
How is pointing out that growth comes from suffering a form of misdirection? I explicitly said the behaviour wasn't "mature", so I don't see how I'm misdirecting anything. My point is that getting as worked up over it as you are, or this guy:
Everyone else beside MrAdults: Eat all the dicks.
has been, is pretty absurd. And no, calling someone out on their threats of violence or laughing at their constant bouts of anger is not "antisocial." It's what most human beings would do in a similar situation. Maybe most of them wouldn't make a thread about it in public, but they'd respond to the threats in private or request for a staff member to deal with the problem. Bandito simply chose to take the approach he felt was likely to generate the most humour.
Indeed, the conflict should have been between two people - this thread was in response to threats of violence from Seifer, which was in response to Bandito pissing him off, which was in response to Seifer's attitude over something or other. Like I said, both sides are wrong, two wrongs don't make a right, and so forth - in the end the behavior in this thread is still not justified. And, yes, calling someone out in a thread like this is childish, especially in making a public display out of it. Perhaps not on the level of a 6 year old, but it's definitely something a 12-16 year old would do.
I thought this was essentially a semantic argument, but apparently not. There are constant cases of people who were much older calling out actual threats in person. I believe people such as Alexander Hamilton and Alexander Pushkin have died as a result of them. It's the sort of thing people of all ages do; most people only "outgrow" it if they become pacifists or are so naturally submissive that they simply don't bother to respond to provocation, though most people won't take it as far as an actual gunfights because when push comes to shove, most people don't mean what they say.
Or perhaps there's no getting through to the aggressors in this thread, which is partly why Seifer is gone - but I trust the rest of us appreciate the truth of what's happened here, and I hope the mods/admins take a more aggressive stance on nipping these things in the bud in the future.
Should it really be the responsibility of mods/admins to cater to the whims of emotionally unstable people such as Seifer, even if they are contributing to hacking projects? As someone who's managed countless internets communities throughout the years, my experience is that catering to the whims of the emotionally unstable just results in the entire community being run according to the whims of the emotionally unstable. The mods could ban Bandito just because Seifer and a couple of others have a problem with him, but where does it stop? Do they ban everyone whom Seifer has a disagreement with? The thought is absurd. Alternatively, they could close threads like this one, but that would only direct the conversation elsewhere. Certainly a revision of the rules can be made, but any alteration of the rules that would prevent someone from making a thread calling someone out over their constant threats of violence seems to me so draconian as to forbid the creation of any thread that might even potentially offend someone. Maybe you have some ideas for more constructive rules, but from the way you've been ranting about other people's conduct throughout this entire thread, it sounds to me like you want politeness to be enforced.
Feel free to irrationally justify your behavior and make aggressive statements against me henceforth
lol, and where have I been doing that?
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By not respond to and/or ignoring this post you are hereby agreeing that you do indeed eat all the dicks.
On a side note, Cassandra Leo, I feel that Skrewdriver is an overrated artist, that anyone who claims to be an anarchist is retarded and that your managing of internet communtities isn't anything to boast about. If you've dedicated that much of your life to it by the time you're 25, you should probably re-evaluate your life decisions.
Furthermore, if you look closely at what MrAdults was saying and how it was being presented, you've become the victim of a very clever troll. And the age range that was presented was mocking you, not to be taken seriously as you have done.
I know for a fact that he is giggling at your child like justifications, and the very fact that you feel you must attempt them.
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On a side note, Cassandra Leo, I feel that Skrewdriver is an overrated artist
I would not disagree with you here.
that anyone who claims to be an anarchist is retarded
I am not actually an anarchist despite my custom title, though I sympathise with many of anarchism's principles. My custom title refers to the comic book character from which I derive my name.
your managing of internet communtities isn't anything to boast about. If you've dedicated that much of your life to it by the time you're 25, you should probably re-evaluate your life decisions.
Nah, the internet's pretty damn important for activism dood. I'm convinced I've built the initial foundations of a fulfilling life.
Furthermore, if you look closely at what MrAdults was saying and how it was being presented, you've become the victim of a very clever troll. And the age range that was presented was mocking you, not to be taken seriously as you have done.
I know for a fact that he is giggling at your child like justifications, and the very fact that you feel you must attempt them.
Oh noes, I have been trolled on the internets. After sticking up for someone else's trolling. brb, committing suicide.
or not.
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A post centered around telling me that the subject is none of my business, in a thread completely unrelated to yourself - while I don't generally agree with the notions you assert, it seems difficult to miss the gross hypocrisy, if you hold these beliefs.
I state this after the thread had run its course, yet you felt the need to convey your moral high horse as if it pertained to the topic, or if anyone cared. So I don't make a "gross hypocrisy," how was this thread related to you again?
which was in response to Seifer's attitude over something or other.
Glad you got all your facts straight before you posted your opinions in a topic where nobody had asked for them.
Like I said, both sides are wrong, two wrongs don't make a right, and so forth - in the end the behavior in this thread is still not justified. And, yes, calling someone out in a thread like this is childish, especially in making a public display out of it. Perhaps not on the level of a 6 year old, but it's definitely something a 12-16 year old would do. Perhaps we should start a debate on when a person stops being considered a child, and how childish might apply in a metaphorical sense. Or perhaps there's no getting through to the aggressors in this thread, which is partly why Seifer is gone - but I trust the rest of us appreciate the truth of what's happened here, and I hope the mods/admins take a more aggressive stance on nipping these things in the bud in the future.
If you don't like the contents of the thread, nobody is holding a gun to your head, so don't read it. What is it you would have the mods do? It was completely unrelated and had nothing to do with you. You keep talking about others taking actions on a forum where you have no say. You can start your own forum if you feel all this free speech between two parties, neither of them you, is giving you sleepless nights.
Like I said, both sides are wrong, two wrongs don't make a right, and so forth - in the end the behavior in this thread is still not justified. And, yes, calling someone out in a thread like this is childish, especially in making a public display out of it. Perhaps not on the level of a 6 year old, but it's definitely something a 12-16 year old would do. Perhaps we should start a debate on when a person stops being considered a child, and how childish might apply in a metaphorical sense.
So if you had no business in this topic, why not make that fascinating debate about childhood behavior in your own thread instead of derailing the topic for the two people it was intended for? This thread's premise doesn't seem childish in the slightest. Forming a witty response to a childish, violent threat is not only hilarious but is taking the high ground in my opinion.
That's the end of the subject for me. Feel free to irrationally justify your behavior and make aggressive statements against me henceforth
What you have failed to do is justify any of your behavior in this thread.
- Topic does not concern you, yet you enter the discussion anyway.
- Mount your high horse and make statements of how all behavior on the internet is to be conducted.
- Criticize the administering of a forum that hasn't broken any of its rules, only your own ideals.
I only entered this topic after Seifer Almasy had clearly left the forum and your ongoing off-topic posts of your ideals and "good internet behavior" became increasingly lengthy and ridiculous.
I warn you that I cannot be your new Seifer
We may disagree, but I would never hold you in such a low regard.
Everyone else beside MrAdults: Eat all the dicks.
Way to back up all that MrAdults has stated about maturity. I wonder who this is... HeWhoWas... Seifer? An IP check would be nice.
By not respond to and/or ignoring this post you are hereby agreeing that you do indeed eat all the dicks.... Furthermore, if you look closely at what MrAdults was saying and how it was being presented, you've become the victim of a very clever troll.
This one's not that clever.
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I am the manifestation of your sexual frustration, being channelled through Seifer, relayed to MrAdults whom is posting via a proxy.
I'm also clairvoyant, which is why I set this account up in Feb, to deflect suspicion.
On a side note, V, for someone who claims they're not anarchist, you certainly have a lot of links, quotes and other bits and pieces promoting anarchism on your MySpace page. Also, can you hook me up with that blonde on the right hand side of your Profile Pic?
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I haven't signed into MySpace in like two years dood; what you see there isn't exactly a reflection of who I am currently. (I still sympathise with anarchism but let's face it, it's never going to happen in our lifetime, so advocating it is kind of pointless). I am kind of flattered that you feel like stalking me this much though.
And she's been in a relationship for like the last five years, otherwise I'd have made a pass at her myself by now.
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Congratulations, you have driven away Seifer, well done, har har.
Who will be next I wonder?
What saddens me the most is the lawlessness in these forums, that no moderator cared that an entire topic was created to target and humiliate a specific member.
There is nothing more I can say here which hasn't already be said.
:-(
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Everyone else beside MrAdults: Eat all the dicks.
Way to back up all that MrAdults has stated about maturity. I wonder who this is... HeWhoWas... Seifer? An IP check would be nice.
At a quick glance - and this means no IP information - that seems unlikely. Before someone even suggests it; I'm not privy to the actual logs made by the forum server - some people have had hissy fits about such a possibility before. I have my own way of getting poster IPs, which is actually a side effect of something else, not intentional trap as such.
BTW, hey there, Otokoshi. Nice to see you. :)
Aaron and Otokoshi have made my points better than I ever could have, so no point in going there at least right now. Besides, I've got that meeting to attend to, so gotta run.
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Without IP Logs, how about some common sense? Or 2 mins worth of investigating? Here are a few hints.
1) This account was made in Feb. Unless you DO believe that Seifer has clairvoyant abilities, then it's unlikely he's going to have an account made for this amount of time to simply rush to his defence.
2) While you're checking the sign up date, a quick google of my email address will result in a forum that was frequented by a well known game developer. A glance at MrAdults profile would show you that that is the same developer.
3) I'm much more intelligent than any of you, including seifer.
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3) I'm much more intelligent than any of you, including seifer.
Oh, hai Spiro! Long time no see. :-P
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http://break-off.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2
His rules say that you can't wind anyone up!!!!! Ha ha ha oh man.
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One thing about his forums, before anyone gets any bright ideas... do not go there
to wind him up to spam.
Seriously. That wouldn't be cool at all.
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This is not right.
Okay.
I agree with Koral 100%
why are you targeting this one member!
And why is there no moderator stepping in!
you know,
He may be an arrogant jerk at times.. but he is still a good guy...
I just hate seeing how, one guy got driven out, and no one did anything to stop this from occurring!
Its just not right!
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He drove himself out by acting the way he did. People (V/Ryu) tried to approach him about the way he was acting and he outright flamed them for their help. Productive of Seifer? No. Does he deserve to be gone now? Yes. Is Cait Sith a character with a purpose? YUS
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/1a/Rageoriginal.jpg)
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I personally didn't like Cait Sith myself.
I don't plan to argue this with you though.
But, why go to such lengths to drive someone away?
Why was no one mature enough to just drop it??
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that is obvious: he/they wanted seifer out of here.
maturity has nothing to do with this.
responsibility, well, that's something else.
And i am not talking about Bandito here
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No, not really.
For myself, I can say that I not only want, but expect him to start acting like a grown up. No more double standards, no more having their cake and eating it too.
If he wants to act like an arrogant ass, then he should be able to take criticism.
If he wants to get abusive, then he better be able to take some criticism for that, too. Whatever form the said criticism might take.
Simply put; this is not a private kindergarten for him. People are not expected nor supposed to take shit from him, and not do anything about it.
As for the TLS' members; why on earth would they want to drive Seifer away from here? Think about it for a second. It makes no sense.
If you want more elaborate explanation, just read V's posts above. He says pretty much the same thing, but better than I can.
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Point taken.
But I have stated my own views, and now all the facts are out there for people to make their own judgement on what happened here in this topic.
I have nothing more to say.
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Yeah, I think that everyone has pretty much stated their views. Or perhaps rather; almost everyone's view has been stated by someone (else).
So... if someone wants to post here about who was wrong and who was right and whatnot, go ahead, but don't expect any new particularly enlightening revelations; pretty much everything has been said already.
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He left.
He has a forum of his own, my understanding is that the projects continue there. The URL has been posted in several places, including this thread.
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Yeah, I think that everyone has pretty much stated their views. Or perhaps rather; almost everyone's view has been stated by someone (else).
So... if someone wants to post here about who was wrong and who was right and whatnot, go ahead, but don't expect any new particularly enlightening revelations; pretty much everything has been said already.
Are we on to welcoming input, now, instead of spewing venomous, fabricated garbage (Otokoshi, at least) at anyone that doesn't agree with us? ;) I tend to consider you all more or less one mind, or at least, a bound group of delusional sociopaths relying on each other to continually rationalize your own behavior. No offense intended, such is often the case with antisocial behavior in these sorts of small communities. People like V, please don't think I'm lumping you in there - it's quite clear that most of the parties involved are the longer-standing members of these forums.
Since we're throwing views in now, here's my last thought - I've been moderately disgusted on a personal level by a couple "senior" members here, the fact that this thread was allowed to exist, and the already-mentioned mob mentality adhered to (an even more horrible prospect in a populace statistically prone Asperger's - perhaps this helps display the complete lack of empathy for anyone but yourselves). What would I have the mods do? Remove any thread directly intended to humiliate and/or drive away a member of the forums. Oh no, the horrible fascism of it all. Down with capitalism!
So that said, I find it hard to justify continuing to contribute to these forums with actual substance, and will be relocating my future endeavers, and any additions to the Dissidia project (regarding format specifications and/or tool updates), elsewhere. I would like to find another forum for these purposes, to keep the contributions and input more organic, but in the mean time, those interested can check my web site for updates. And yes, I'm certainly not the only productive member of these forums disgusted enough by what went on here to jump ship. So congratulations, again, on your mature solution to getting rid of someone you don't like - though I think it may have had side effects.
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Are we on to welcoming input, now, instead of spewing venomous, fabricated garbage (Otokoshi, at least) at anyone that doesn't agree with us? ;)
More like making concluding statement, so that peoplez of the interwebs don't have to ask too many times.
So that said, I find it hard to justify continuing to contribute to these forums with actual substance, and will be relocating my future endeavers, and any additions to the Dissidia project (regarding format specifications and/or tool updates), elsewhere. I would like to find another forum for these purposes, to keep the contributions and input more organic, but in the mean time, those interested can check my web site for updates. And yes, I'm certainly not the only productive member of these forums disgusted enough by what went on here to jump ship. So congratulations, again, on your mature solution to getting rid of someone you don't like - though I think it may have had side effects.
Please do. The door is that way.
Thank you for your congratulations, and so far the side effects seem quite positive.
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Thank you for your congratulations, and so far the side effects seem quite positive.
Thank God we have an authority on the matter! Good news, everyone, losing productive members of the community so that some senior members can sit in a corner stroking each other's egos is positive thing for the community.
;)
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You seem to be awfully slow at leaving. Something still bothering you? Bitter, perhaps? :-D
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You seem to be awfully slow at leaving. Something still bothering you? Bitter, perhaps? :-D
I can see no harm in meeting blather with blather, certainly (as this thread never was and never will be mature now) - it's quite different from constructive contributions, though I suppose you might not know much about that. Ooh, burn.
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:-D
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Attention!!
This thread has already served its original purpose of getting rid of Seifer. Please let it die now so it will quit popping up on my new posts screen. MrAdults, you seem to have been here a while and are decently active, why don't you become a mod or admin?
Oh, but so that I follow in this thread's tradition, I think {hateful and condescending remark}.
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and then the entire forum goes on poor seifer.
He got what he deserved. But please Zarnik, don't leave, I think you and I will actively contributive on BrokenCrowe's project. Although I might disagree with some of your views, I don't want that to come between our project with BrokenCrowe.
Anyways, Seifer is gone!!!! :-D
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Yeah never in my days at the computer have I ever experienced something like this. One member against another, and then the entire forum goes on poor seifer. All the projects I helped with are now gone, so there is really nothing else for me to do here. Guess I'll leave this forum, good job guys getting rid of one of our most active members...Seifer that is.. :roll:
His projects are not over. His final posts should have the URL of where you should go in order to continue helping out with them.
I'll admit my relief that this finally seems to be over. However, for those rejoicing in his absence... you may celebrate all you like, but despite what you may believe, nothing worthy of pride has been accomplished.
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I'm proud that I told him what he was and that he found out he was too scared to keep a challenge from anybody.
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Are we on to welcoming input, now, instead of spewing venomous, fabricated garbage (Otokoshi, at least) at anyone that doesn't agree with us? :wink: I tend to consider you all more or less one mind, or at least, a bound group of delusional sociopaths relying on each other to continually rationalize your own behavior. No offense intended, such is often the case with antisocial behavior in these sorts of small communities.
(http://www.forumspile.com/Flame-Flame_on.jpg)
All I ever asked was why people stepped into a thread that was obviously not intended for them to reply in. You took it very personally. I guess you would never answer my questions or justify your actions, so you would rather resort to flaming, or insinuate threats were made by myself or V, or that I gave you "venomous fabricated garbage." I don't see it.
So that said, I find it hard to justify continuing to contribute to these forums with actual substance, and will be relocating my future endeavers, and any additions to the Dissidia project (regarding format specifications and/or tool updates)
I fail to see how your endeavors of ripping off copyrighted material contributes to the community. There are plenty of creative people on these forums that can appreciate creating this content themselves. But go ahead, I'm sure you'll be an smash hit at the FacePunch forums for your ripoff ripper tool. You'll just need a thicker skin to survive there apparently. If you are leaving, just realize I never directly insulted you once. That is more than I can say about you. You failed to justify your actions in this thread you had no business in, and acted like a child when you were criticized for it. These aren't threats or venomous fabricated garbage, it's the truth.
However you were able to come up with a username like MrAdults and act in this manner is a mystery to me... or is it? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip)
...though I suppose you might not know much about that. Ooh, burn.
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/REIGNftSOLDIER/Random/kelso_burn.gif)
Nice one...
El Ammo Bandito! I don't like your attitude...you should be the one leaving this site. You clearly got issues...maybe I'll send you a few bombs...hehe
And that attitude is admirable? Is our little troll growing up?
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Venomous, fabricated garbage
Fixed. :)
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I see that everyone is finally getting along, now that Seifer is gone.
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I see that everyone is finally getting along, now that Seifer is gone.
(http://borgborg.org/big_laugh.gif)
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webcam feed \o/
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I'm confused. Why did MrAdults leave?
This is getting a touch ridiculous.
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Bandito didn't need him and his opinions.
And the Moderators (and Mr. Quimm too) apparantly shared the same opinion, and kindly escorted MrAdults to the exit.
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My understanding would be that he was unhappy with couple of senior members (that would be me and Otokoshi, most likely) and the admins and mods.
Or, if you prefer the more lulzy response; he didn't get his way. He wanted me banned, contacted a mod, nothing happened.
Or was disappointed that he couldn't get a rise out of me by his - admittedly - rather clever trolling. Because that's what most of his last posts in this thread, and in the "Is It Realistic?"-thread were. He is highly skilled and very composed, but make no mistake, he was trying to get people to lose their temper. In a very pot-kettle-black-like manner, considering his complaints about antisocial behavior of other people.
Or something of that nature, don't know, don't care. *shrugs*
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I don't understand how he is so "well-known." Someone in some post said it. I checked his profile, nothing special.
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It's best to leave this thread to die now. I don't believe there's anything more to be said.
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Seifer's legacy lives on! He shall never remain... a memory...
In my emails. Seifer continues to email me, threatening to spam tls and called me a slut to boot because I like sex.
Well damn.
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I agree... Seifer knows how to make friends where ever he goes.
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Seifer's legacy lives on! He shall never remain... a memory...
In my emails. Seifer continues to email me, threatening to spam tls and called me a slut to boot because I like sex.
Well damn.
Please don't reply to his emails. He can be expected to hold a few grudges for a while. Give him some time and he'll recover.
At this point, I just want this all to end. Even though I still feel sour towards certain people, I'm too tired of this to act on it.
Also, as a hardcore Sephiroth fan, I feel it is my duty to correct you. It's "I will... never be a memory." Or, if you prefer a translation that isn't matched to the lips, it's "I will... not become a mere memory."
(Sorry about that, couldn't stop myself :-))
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Seifer's legacy lives on! He shall never remain... a memory...
In my emails. Seifer continues to email me, threatening to spam tls and called me a slut to boot because I like sex.
Well damn.
Oh shit, lulz. :-D
I'd engage my White Knight-mode now, but you seem to be handling yourself very well, so it's not like you'd need one.
Still, <3 Channy. :-)
You know what would push him over the edge? ED-entry. Srsly. :-D
Please don't reply to his emails. He can be expected to hold a few grudges for a while. Give him some time and he'll recover.
I'm going to be frank with you, now. You know, like Drebin. So, I hope you excuse my language.
But seriously, what the shit fuck?
Your buddy has started cyber harassing a person. Period. He sucks balls in it, but that doesn't matter - he's trying, apparently really hard, judging by the thread over at TLS. The fact that Channy hasn't done anything to deserve it, doesn't even come into play. Do you understand that what he is now doing is - you know - fucking illegal?
Do. You. Really. Understand. That?
It's not okay. Holding a grudge and harassing someone are two completely different things, and Seifer the Asshat now really does deserve a good beating. In real life.
And for that matter, you are asking someone not to reply to abusive - well, they are meant as such, success is another matter - emails, sent by your buddy? Exactly what part of that idea does compute?
Now, I have no doubt that Channy can take care of herself, and this is destined to lead only to more lulz, so only thing this accomplishes is - wait for it - yes, making him look even more stupid than he is. Quite an accomplishment, really.
Question; is stupidity a signed variable? And if it is, is it possible in extreme cases of stupidity for the variable to wrap around into extreme smartness? While we wait to see if that happens...
Now we interrupt our regular programming to bring you Special News Bulletin! Our undercover agent has obtained video material of Seifer's recent activities; it seems that his mom canceled his WoW-account.
Observe (http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/544971/36c89824/mama_cancelt_wow_account.html)
Don't blame me, if you spew anything and everything that happened to be in your mouth all over your keyboard and monitorz. I warned you. Ohwait, no I didn't. Ooops. :-D
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Now we interrupt our regular programming to bring you Special News Bulletin! Our undercover agent has obtained video material of Seifer's recent activities; it seems that his mom canceled his WoW-account.
Observe (http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/544971/36c89824/mama_cancelt_wow_account.html)
That's very interesting. I just watched that vid earlier today on collegehumor. What a coincidence.
You've made quite a strong point there, and I take it without offense. I just feel sympathetic towards Seifer because he has been nothing but kind to me. But to listen to my request is ultimately Silvers's choice, and she may think me utterly ridiculous to say such a thing and totally ignore me if that suits her. I'll contain myself and take care not to spew anything, because I know that blaming another for making me do it would be immature.
Edit: Corrected a grammar mistake in that last sentence. I'm a hardcore perfectionist if there ever was one.
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You know what would push him over the edge? ED-entry. Srsly. :-D
What these forums really need is a bunch of ED users coming along and seeing what one can get away with here. I'm not being sarcastic; 10 pages of Pain Series spam on every forum might serve as a wake up call to the admins.
Question; is stupidity a signed variable? And if it is, is it possible in extreme cases of stupidity for the variable to wrap around into extreme smartness?
No.
Proof (http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1)
BTW, I told Seifer to stop, for his own sake. I'm probably pissing into the wind by just trying to get this to end...
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Question; is stupidity a signed variable? And if it is, is it possible in extreme cases of stupidity for the variable to wrap around into extreme smartness?
No.
Proof (http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1)
Oh, right. That page. I had entirely forgotten it. Thanks for reminding me! :cry: No, seriously, just kidding about that last part.
BTW, I told Seifer to stop, for his own sake. I'm probably pissing into the wind by just trying to get this to end...
Well, good luck...
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Question; is stupidity a signed variable? And if it is, is it possible in extreme cases of stupidity for the variable to wrap around into extreme smartness?
No.
Proof (http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1)
>this thread is now about rage :x
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>this thread is now about rage :x
What kind of rage?
This kind? (http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8320/ragenewcomputer.png)
Or this kind? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/watice/3b18f0f502190150727475311ef0127e0_full.jpg)
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Haha the "Or this kind"...lol what is rage about that? That is funny :roll:
Dunno, but things like that get posted in rage threads on /v/. I think we're supposed to be enraged by the stupidity. Or the girl's sluttiness. If he had offered her some PSX games, I'd be able to understand. But N64 games? What a whore! :lol:
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Oh well fuck you Shadow and your stupid Sephiroth fanboyism. :P
Clearly I couldn't contain myself as Seifer continued to email me within seconds of whenever I'd email him, and if I waited longer than 5-10 mins he'd send another just to make sure "Oh does it hurt when it gets back at you bitch? Yah it's not nice is it" lolwut? Refer to quotes for the most lulz of the emails.. And also refer to TLS for the msn chat I had with him. http://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?p=124306#post124306
Just to say, hope you have had your fun. You have driven me and another great poster away from qhimms with the help of your buddies....
still, my forum is somwhere you lot won't be touching and so you can watch as I edit your lovely game to my hearts content....
I also want to note that you appear to be a bit of a slut....
Your avatar is sexual, your message "sex please" is a bit typical and you are turned on by a member knowing your forum?
Got sex on the brain have you? How many fingers can you fit in?
lmao
Kiss my arse.
oh im well prepared for your lot at my forum and I invite you try....
Even if you did make it through id have your ass banned within 1 post. and it be deleted.
Now here is my payback to you. I am currently signing you and your buddies up to 100 porn sites. So expect some severe spam.
as I said. Had you kept your big fat stupid mouth out of things that didnt concern you, you would not have heard from me. But having read through the poss again I consider you the biggest trouble causer of them all.
That means you will be the one targeted the most.
When I have come to your forum and wound it up relentlessly....I want the people there to know who they can thank. YOU.
Did you really think I would sit back and do nothing? Well now you little fucker., its my turn.
I can go on forever....I wonder if you can? Let's see. But remember....the person whose credibility you are destroying is your own and your own forum. The beauty of it is, you have nothing on me now.... no way to get me back. And I will be signing up many times over the next 3 months,
I hope your mods are ready
You plainly have issues. Your boyfroend should watch out. A few beers and you will be double dicked.
Personal attacks anyone?
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Well I do believe that someone should take care of this. He just doesn't get it. Has no clue whatsoever.
well I'll defend TLS any day! Point me to the thread if he causes any trouble, I'll gladly assist you guys. :-D
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lol@this thread.
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I just wanted to say, that after posting what I consider a level-headed post earlier in this thread when asshat was still here, I fully retract any and all defensiveness for asshat in said post.
At first I admit, I thought it was just nonsensical bullying, but after reading up on what happened at TLS (I have now joined, great forum) I mean all of it - do with asshat (it took a while, I was bored) I have to say that guy is an absolute moron. Hypocritical, obnoxious, arrogant, abusive and completely ignorant. I experienced a taste of it myself when posting an opinion on the way Tifa looks. It appears he has a thing about women, the sexist pig. Something to do with modding more clothes on her. Eh, what? As Bandito so eloquently put it:-
But Tifa's character doesn't strike me as that type of person so the dress isn't realistic to the character. (perhaps we can mod some proper clothing on her)
Yes please, a habit would be nice.
You know, Cloud's swords are awfully large too, no doubt there's some Freudian thing behind that. Perhaps you'd like to make them smaller? You know, since they are not realistic at all, and besides; I'm willing to bet money that you think Cloud wouldn't walk around waving some huge metaphor for a massive man meat? :-D
I laughed a lot at that.
I think the guy has a serious problem. He should be stopped.
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Putting aside the useless nature of comments here and the war with Seifer, I feel inclined to post these from a topic I just noticed noticed now:
from: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=4219.0
...I'm strongly considering adding a minimum IQ/common sense requirement to be able to post on the forums. Jesus.
You know, this place started small, and for a long time it consisted mostly of a group of sensible people I very much liked to call friends. What is it now? A goddamn daycare center for people who shouldn't be allowed to interact online, or even own a keyboard for that matter.
- At least five members now are using the forums to talk to each other instead of calling or meeting outside (or in cases, the goddamn living room).
- At least two permanently banned users are semi-secretly back posting as if nothing happened.
- Most of the few people who were capable of having a decent intellectual conversation are gone or driven insane by the rest of the members.
- Maybe one or two percent of the registered users are actually contributing towards the intended goal of these forums.
- There exists maybe a handful of people who actually behave as regulars, the rest (including many long-time members) are still acting like dyslexic newbies who just post for the hell of it.
- There are maybe five or ten different topics alive, which are endlessly repeated since people can apparently not read anything posted before they thought of the idea.
I seriously don't care anymore.
If anyone thinks they can make a difference, let me know and I'll make you a moderator. I'm tired of cleaning up this mess, if you people are interested in this place as anything else than a random crap dump then maybe you should start actually working for it.
I think that the moderating system on this board has 3 major problems:
1. I think that one of the main moderating problems on this board is that only a few of your moderators are still around here (SaiNt, Aaron, You, and me).
Some of the moderators have not been posting here for a long while, as fice, halkun, dagsverre...
This worked fine some time ago, however, in the last few months we have more and more problems in here, so you have to update your mod crew.
But I see that you've already started taking care of this problem.
I think that making Nori a mod is a good decision.
2. Another problem was that moderators are only allowed to moderate a few forums, not all. If I see some heavy rule-breaking action in the unrelated forum (where most of the sh*t happens), for example, I cannot use my "mod powers" there, the only thing I can do is giving an advise or telling another mod/admin who has the power to edit or delete posts or topics in a specific forum about that...
You maybe should think about giving the mods access to more forums, especially the unreleated one to take care of that.
And as for that "If anyone thinks they can make a difference, let me know and I'll make you a moderator." is not a good Idea. I think you (and SaiNt) should be the only ones who decide who's going to be a moderator.
After all, this is not a guerilla war, where everyone fights for his own ideal, but the moderators are (or at least should be) a crew under your control, fighting for your ideals.
3. I think there is also another point:
Once you have finished the mod crew update, then you should maybe tell your moderators what you expect them to do in critical situations.
This would be a help for us moderators to enforce the rules, and if we know what you expect from us, then we can also handle a lot of problem for you without being afraid to be too rude.
Think about it.
- Alhexx
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Had to correct my grammar and the structure of this post a few times...
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corpse: If I was you, I'd scale down that avatar a bit before someone else does...
This doesnt change the fact that the Moderators here WERE responsible for letting things get out of hand, because they should have at least had the decency to post a comment or two.
But it proves a very good point or two about this forum generally, should anyone care to actually read.
:-)
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lol@this thread.
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:cry:@this thread :(
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Hey Prince Lex, I read that too, the dude is a total assmuncher.
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Posting here is probably tad counterproductive now, as it only seems to make this thread get longer and longer...
But, everyone who still thinks that we were too mean to the poor bastard, and you know - wound him up - should go read this (http://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2110). You should read all of it. Really. For example, the part where he figures that trying to hack a mod account would be a good idea.
TLS mods split the topic, thus the previous links will be pointing to the old one.
For the massive lulz, if nothing else. Too bad you didn't get to see his pr0n spamming - I did - it was very fitting to his character.
It's not like me to do the 'Told you so'-thing, so I won't, but I suspect few people who left after him might see him in a new light.
*shrugs*
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I don't care about the arguing, i dont really know what's going on. but i have a question
...why the hell was koral banned?
...also Mradults, but i havent read this thread in its entirety, so he may have provoked a mod to do it, or just left of his own accord, i havent a clue. but koral's account was fine until that seemingly normail comment above was posted?
i do not agree with banning without reason.
please explain someone?
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Nobody has been banned. Otherwise the said account would still exist.
All three of them have left on their own volition.
...unless this is some newfangled method of banning I've never seen before.
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...It just wouldnt make sense for koral to leave...
But, as i say, i haven't read this thread entirely.
...perhaps mods can just "delete" accounts?
but that would just be reasonless, and i have a good idea that a mod deleted koral's account simply because they didnt like what wass being said about them, which is pathetic. in which case, that's not good at all. again, i'm not sure about mradults.
...but i have no clue what i'm saying. just disregard this post, its just me being slightly aggrivated.
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I highly doubt Koral was banned. Mr. Adults and Seifer Almasy both left.
I agree with Bandito that posting here is only going to be counterproductive. This'll be my final post on this thread. Let the situation be left to one's own judgment.
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NeoCloudstrife: That just does not make any sense at all.
It's probably best if you contact them by yourself and simply ask.
And yeah, what Shadowseer said.
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lol, it looks like jari is still up to his old shenanigans.
Just like back when I was here a year ago.
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I think this guy added me on MSN. lol, I wasn't involved even this time.
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Oh Seifer, you sly dog.
You think you can do this (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8485.0) again? Run away to another forum, and then spread lies about what happened in the previous one?
Seifer says (http://break-off.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=47731#p47731):
It is temporary for the projects since some of the people at qhimm have no intention of allowing us to continue. Some of us left when the moderators made no effort.
Either you are truly delusional, or you really think people will believe your lies.
Nobody has had any intentions to stop your projects - as stupid as some of us might think they are (removing the comic relief of FF7... because, well, because FF7 is SERIOUS, like the Interwebs, you know) - some of us have issues with your conduct, and that of MrAdults. I'm not even going to bother with his last message, it's made out of so much hypocrisy that it's unreal.
And what of the moderator/admin intervention? I bet you'd cry foul just the same, had they banned you. :P
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And let your buddybuddy to spread lies? Don't think so.
Here's a hint; if this bothers you, tell him to either STFU, or start being honest. Simple as that.
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Whatever it was he posted, looks like he took it down. Confirms that he was using verbal diarrhoea, I suppose.
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So, nothing new. It's a good thing this time, though.
He has done this (http://break-off.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=842) instead, but that's rather harmless and mostly lulzworthy. :-D
This:
A few troublesome members have already tried to sign up here but they must realise that they are wasting their time.
...however intrigues me. :-D I know I certainly haven't, and I kinda doubt that anyone would care enough to do that, but whatever. :-P
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DUDES!!!! I got permanently banned from there!!!! I signed up as Ignorant Fanboy and apparently can't get on. here we go - http://break-off.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=842 :-D
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Oh, I see.
I wonder who the rest were, or if there in fact were more of them.
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How did he find my IP?
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In fairness.
I do not believe he traced you through your IP.
Did you use the same email to sign up on his forum?
Because, I can simply see your email, by clicking on your profile.
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And, ehm... well... Ignorant Fanboy kinda does give your intentions away.
So, yeah, I also doubt he traced your IP.
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That too.
You gave too much of yourself away.
Haha.
Now, I find there little point in continuing to post in this thread.
So I bid you all a fond farewell.
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Oh yes i know. I thought that I didn't have to get in through him though. Duh. Oh well. he he
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Well he signed me up for all of this zoo porn shit. Spammed the shit out of my e-mail account. What a little girl.
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See, that's why you don't give out email addresses.
Then again, he doesn't seem to know how to really spam someone. Lucky you. Protip: it's not done by signing them up for pr0n sites.