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paladin181

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Installed FFVII and have an input error
« on: 2010-07-27 03:19:05 »
It seems no matter what I try, the up and left keys are locked in an "ON" state, to the point that the game is completely unplayable. I don't know how to resolve this. It did this upon first install. Then I reinstalled and patched to 1.02. Then I reinstalled and patched to 1.02 and used Aali's graphics driver. No dice on any front, the up and left keys are constantly triggered. Tried installing with and without my joystick installed, and nothing changed. Any ideas?

System: Windows 7 (Compatability mode for Win 98/ME and Win XP SP2/3 run)
Core 2 Duo 2.8 Ghz processor
Nvidia 9800GT+ Video adapter
4 GB Ram
« Last Edit: 2010-07-27 03:20:53 by paladin181 »

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #1 on: 2010-07-27 03:38:09 »
A hardware problem, perhaps? Try a different keyboard, if you have one available. At the very least, start the game with the keyboard unplugged and see if the problem persists.

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #2 on: 2010-07-27 04:15:07 »
Same problem even with no keyboard plugged in..

I don't have another Keyboard to try, either. I never had these problems on my old system


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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #3 on: 2010-07-27 09:35:33 »
 Maybe a mouse with too many buttons that maybe is seen as joypad for the game or bad/faulty drivers to keyboard, once I bought a keyboard with drivers that constantly crashed my XP lol >.> through they had good drivers on their site.

 Is that problem only on cursors/arrows? Or whatever you set to run left/up? If only for cursors, try this: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23541718/ff7input.rar just download and unpack to your ff7 folder, I setup movement on J/K/L/I and OK/Cancel/Menu/Switch at E/W/D/S, you can check/setup to your liking the rest in game if it's just cursors that doesn't work for you. Also this is updated so it can work on laptops too(normally it have a problem with change name screen).

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #4 on: 2010-07-27 11:51:05 »
I have this exact problem with FFVIII sometimes. For that, however, it was that I had a faulty gamepad plugged in.
Even if you don't have one plugged in, the pad's drivers could be defaulting the "off" state to the upper left corner.

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #5 on: 2010-07-27 13:46:57 »
I already got ahold of ff7input.cfg, but thanks for thinking of me. ;) As for the game pad, I'll try uninstalling it and then installing the game.  Dunno though, it was never an issue on my old machine, but I was using a PS/2 Keyboard then too. Now I only have USB ports. That's the killer there I think. I'll try uninstalling both the game pad and the keyboard individually and/or together as a troubleshooting method when I get home from work tonight. Besides that, I'll try installing it on XP (I have a dual boot environment). It's just a chore to switch operating systems every time I want to play a game.

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #6 on: 2010-07-27 15:54:59 »
Aw in that last cfg I only set keyboard, I don't have a joy, but I manually hexed cfg for you without joy setup
-download below-

here's how keys are set in this


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if it's a joy driver problem that will save you:P without installing ff7 on different OS or anything like that. Just use those controls from screenshot to control game to setup keyboard how you want.

edit: previous input I hexed I cut too much cutting possibility to accept name with normal enter-key on laptops, this should be pretty much perfect, at least corrected so no problems with smaller laptop keyboards.>.> FF7 with this cfg just doesn't use any keys of joystick(or so I hope as that's still just fast hex edit without true understanding exactly how keys are stored there - my quick guess was it's keyboard standard/custom then joystick standard/custom, but it could be different actually it probably doesn't save standard config there, or at least not full as the file seems to have much less info than 4x14 keys stored:P) so it shouldn't react on it.

Edit - reup for anyone that needs it and dunno how to hex it himself:3 :
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25940949/ff7NOJOYinput.rar
« Last Edit: 2010-12-28 18:49:50 by Miseru »

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #7 on: 2010-07-27 18:58:43 »
Awesome. I'll try this when I get home too, if the other solutions don't solve it. I hope this will work because I have no desire to load up XP. Of course, I don't even know XP will work for me, because as I said before, last time I loaded the game on XP, I also had a PS/2 mouse. Thanks for all your help, and I'll see if either of these files remedy the problem.

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #8 on: 2010-07-27 19:33:06 »
 Get just that one with NOJOY from my last post file is little bigger as I added that picture with keys as I have most likely pretty strange config there.

 I never had such problem as I don't have any joypad and I like simple keyboards/mouses, but by simple logic, if anything you have or even a driver is seen by ff7 as joystick and as NFITC1 said it's defaulting to upper left corner then, just making ff7 not use any input from joystick should fix that, so that exactly does this simple edit of ff7input.cfg.

 Hope this helps, good luck.

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #9 on: 2010-07-27 21:26:04 »
not sure if you got it working or not, but don't bother wasting your time uninstalling and installing, it has no effect on how your gamepad is acting. Are you sure all of your axis are centered whenever you plug it in, and have you tried recalibrating it through control panel yet?

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #10 on: 2010-07-27 21:46:46 »
This fix (no Joy) actually worked. Thanks a bunch. I'm going to recalibrate the Joystick and try again. Thanks a lot though, as i can actually get in game now, and maneuver the menus. Grrr. Though now the game always loads in a smaller window, no matter how small I make the resolution, the default game loads in a smaller window that doesn't reach the borders. Frustrating.
« Last Edit: 2010-07-27 21:54:21 by paladin181 »

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #11 on: 2010-07-27 22:32:29 »
 Glad it helped. Input.cfg have nothing to do with the resolution(I would be really suprised if that would happen by my hex edited config as I'm pretty sure it have nothing to do with graphic settings and more I just deleted joystick binds from it xD), that is stored in your registry, did you messed with something else or reinstalled game? Not sure if you're using Aali's driver, but if you didn't yet, install it and set in it's config file any resolution you want and check full screen, if you do make sure it's correctly installed and set up. That's maybe too obvious to say, but in case you're setting resolution in windows;P that have nothing to do with game resolution. Game uses it's own settings and you probably have checked to launch in quarter screen eventually it does launch like that by some other reason. Maybe it's a problem of registry or something, but as Aali's driver probably doesn't use settings saved in registry(well not the graphic ones at least), just use it and have fun with higher res than original game allowed.=](You also need patch 1.02 before installing Aali's driver.)

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #12 on: 2010-07-28 02:05:04 »
I hadn't restarted my machine since that latest installation It actually worked ok after reboot. I hate that I can't use this joypad (perhaps my PS3 one will fare better) but everything is fully functional now, except the joystick Thanks for all the help. I'll troubleshoot it later. And yes, I am using the Aali Hi res driver.

ETA: I downloaded the official software from logitech and fiddled with settings instead of using the "default" driver set that comes with windows 7. Fully functional and ready to play now. Thanks again for all your help.
« Last Edit: 2010-07-28 02:27:46 by paladin181 »

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Re: Installed FFVII and have an input error
« Reply #13 on: 2010-08-06 15:04:36 »
Thanks Miseru for the NOJOY input!!! I had the same problem than paladin181 but now a can play perfectly. THANKS!!!!