Author Topic: Some misc. stuff, etc.. (Read 10523 times)

Ged · « **on:** 2002-04-12 12:35:00 »

Wee. I'm alive. [nah, Ged, it's just your imagination].. [...]

Anyhow -

1) I need Final Fantasy 8 original art.
Mainly - GF's and monsters, characters (except the main ones)..
Help appreciated..
2) Just played FF8 on ePSXe. It rocks

PC version sucks.
3) Any progress in the FF7 Remake Project?
4) Best soundfont for FF8..?
5) Tell me what the hell is that wonky thing in FF8 that has a BIG "GOME-NE" written on his back...?

Kendrilian · « **Reply #1 on:** 2002-04-12 12:50:00 »

FFVIII PC does not suck! ...it just has a few problems... like skipping frames on some summons... and having the wrong sound effects for Quezecotle (spelling?)... and having a really corny sound for Jumbo Cactuar... other than that the PC version is soooo much better than the Playstation version! Look at the way a good computer can make the summons look freaking coool! Look at how little loading time there is! Look at how smooth everything runs!

Now to business. There isn't much origional art on the picture shrines, but there is some.... you might try "http://www.ffonline.com".

Kendrilian

Ged · « **Reply #2 on:** 2002-04-12 15:28:00 »

Duh, I repeat - on ePSXe.
On a PSX it is much worse than PC [when it comes to graphics of course], but on ePSXe the framerate is perfect, the graphics are much smoother, it is much harder to notice pixels - and the sound is much better. And Triple Triad. The animation n'all..

So over all -

1. FF8PSX on ePSXe
2. FF8PC
3. FF8PSX

That's mho.

About art - I saw once in a while GF art (Shiva, Ifrit, Quezacotl - for sure!) - no I only need it...

ShinRa Inc · « **Reply #3 on:** 2002-04-12 18:29:00 »

Might want to check out http://www.rpgamer.com

Kendrilian · « **Reply #4 on:** 2002-04-12 19:55:00 »

Epsxe is better than FFVIII PC only if you have the state of the freaking art technology that you bought for a rediculously crazy amount of money when you could wait a few and then get it when it's cheap... FFVIII PC doesn't require the best technology but Epsxe does...

Kendrilian

Ged · « **Reply #5 on:** 2002-04-13 14:36:00 »

Well. If you still have a :
PII 266MhZ, 64MB Ram, 8x CD, 16MB videocard, then ok, you win.[stats. writen of the box]
But I assume that a current standart is a config of
Duron 800MhZ, 128MB RAM, 40x CD, 32/64 GeForce2MX400..
I have a similiar one and both things run flawlessly on it.
PC version is worse due to graphics, sound, framerate, and triple triad.
Bt why should we make a fight out of it?
The winner is obvious.
It's the game. Not the platform -_-"

Aaron · « **Reply #6 on:** 2002-04-13 17:46:00 »

Kendrilian - system requirements for FF8 to run in ePSXe are about the same for it to run in Windows normally.

PC version's framerate is crapped out sometimes (I know my computer is capable of a better framerate, but sometimes it just doesn't happen). Triple triad... what's wrong with it (besides the filters on the cards, is that what you mean?)? Sound is ok, once you apply Samuel's FF8DLS, and so on.

Kendrilian · « **Reply #7 on:** 2002-04-14 17:25:00 »

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Bt why should we make a fight out of it?
The winner is obvious.
It's the game. Not the platform

I agree Ged. I also don't have any problems with Triple Triad, it seems to run better than the "regular" playstation to me...

Kendrilian

Ged · « **Reply #8 on:** 2002-04-15 04:38:00 »

About Triple Triad?
Wah. First the cards - they seem to have two layers, one is blurred another not, so often the cards are bad quality with a white line on top. And animation durin all the same/plus etc - wel.. It's just not the same..
Samuel'sDLS? First here of it.. Where can I download it?

Aaron · « **Reply #9 on:** 2002-04-15 12:15:00 »

Go here
http://ffsf.cjb.net/

...and go down to the part that says "Final Fantasy VIII DLS."

Kendrilian · « **Reply #10 on:** 2002-04-15 19:28:00 »

Hmm... I swear that I am the only human who plays Final Fantasy, everyone else notices all of these tiny, little, insignificant, pointless, details and I don't... I don't care that Quezecotle's sound is the same sound as Pheonix... I don't care that the cards have 2 layers... I don't care that the music is not as good as some of the PlayStation... all I care about is that Jumbo Cactuar's sound really sucks compaired to the PlayStation!

*the only human*
Kendrilian

Rubicant? · « **Reply #11 on:** 2002-04-15 20:00:00 »

Hey now, I play it too. I don't care for all those intricaces (sp?). It seems to me that you aren't paying attention to your friend that goes to the same school as you mr. Kendrillian.

Kendrilian · « **Reply #12 on:** 2002-04-16 01:36:00 »

Sorry Wobbitt... but I sometimes feel that way... and I don't have the best of memories... but I agree that you are definatly human... "Aaron who wasn't

here" definatly isn't human...

Kendrilian

Aaron · « **Reply #13 on:** 2002-04-16 02:58:00 »

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It's the game. Not the platform

If they had done a slightly less lazy job of porting FF8 to PC... I would be happier. What bothers me most is the performance my comp gives on the world map (heh... crap!) and I've seen lots of other complaints about this too. I KNOW my computer can handle those graphics... bad programming.
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Ged · « **Reply #14 on:** 2002-04-16 04:24:00 »

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It's the matter of details - when you'r eplaying the game for the sixth time you tend to catch them out, and they distract the gameplay..

Goku7 · « **Reply #15 on:** 2002-04-17 02:10:00 »

The only complaint I have with the Quezacotl summon, is that its not loud enough.

World map?? Smoothness IS possible, it works like a charm on my 1.5Ghz system....

Yeah, details do start coming out when playing it the for the 3rd, fourth, or fifth times thru.

As for sound, the upcoming "Revision2" update to the Original DLS (made possible by the fine folks of....oh, wait, I'm the one designing it.....LOL) should make a dent in the gap in quality between my Improved Tracks patch, and Samuel's DLS.

Kendrilian · « **Reply #16 on:** 2002-04-17 15:23:00 »

Cool you can fix the sound? That will be awesome! It has been driving me crazy being all corny sounding...

Mot! Have you been mind controlling me again?

I've had that urge again...

Kendrilian

M0T · « **Reply #17 on:** 2002-04-17 19:19:00 »

The urge to Herbal? or the one that guy in my pic is having?

Kendrilian · « **Reply #18 on:** 2002-04-17 20:03:00 »

welll... both of them.... I've always had the urge to herbal and maybe girls will come with the body wash.

The other was what I meant at the time though.... I don't have any idea why I just had those urges...

*confused*
Kendrilian

Goku7 · « **Reply #19 on:** 2002-04-17 23:26:00 »

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On 2002-04-17 11:23, Kendrilian wrote:
Cool you can fix the sound? That will be awesome! It has been driving me crazy being all corny sounding...

Not just me. Samuel's DLS (and the other soundfonts) do the same thing, but to varying degrees. In regards to high quality, Samuel's DLS ranks first, but at the cost of Download time, but that's only if you're using a modem. However, you pay for what you get, so it IS worth the download time, if you're being that annoyyed by it.

My new, upcoming entry into the DLS side of things is only about a meg, maybe a meg and a half, but again, the increase in quality gained is about porportional the the download size. All I did, was update two samples to what SquareSoft should have done (The trademark french horn from FF7 being one of them.....The other, well, maybe you should hear what it does to The Extreme :naughty:)

Instead of making you needlessly download the entire DLS (over 9megs!), I simply used Dag's patchmaker program to create a patch that you apply to the existing 8megabyte Original DLS, and then you're set, having only downloaded about one-eighth the size!

-edit-
Maybe I should talk about the new version of The Legendary Beast (Griever's Theme), that will have a neat choir track in it, inspired by the song's strings section........Nah, too much advertising......
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Kendrilian · « **Reply #20 on:** 2002-04-18 12:59:00 »

COOL you'll have to tell us when it comes out and where we can get it! WHoooo! Sounds great! tee hee hee

Kendrilian

Aaron · « **Reply #21 on:** 2002-04-19 00:12:00 »

Sounds cool, Goku. Any way we can use that and Samuel's at the same time...?

ANYWAY,
I am currently bidding on a copy of FF8 PSX (for use in ePSXe) off of eBay. It might end up selling for $0.99, if I'm lucky :-p

[Edit] WHICH REMINDS ME, does anyone know if there is a PC -> PSX FF8 Save Converter? (This might have been asked before.) I know there is one for FF7 (I have it around here somewhere) but I haven't seen an FF8 one.
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Goku7 · « **Reply #22 on:** 2002-04-19 00:33:00 »

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On 2002-04-18 20:12, Aaron wrote:
Sounds cool, Goku. Any way we can use that and Samuel's at the same time...?

What do you mean by "That"? The new choir version of Griever's Theme? If so......Hmm....Lemme go test it out as-is.....

*tests it*

I'd need to reassign the drum patch off of the Joriku set, on to the one Samuel made......The rhymic drum part will sound totally different, cause I had to use a separate timpani track to compensate for the lack of samples availiable in the Joriku set....and of course, I had originally asked him if he wanted to try to include this in his next musicset-DLS release, and he said he wanted to stay as close to the PSX OST as possible.

But, that doesn't stop me from testing it out after the modifications, right?

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As it is, I don't know how you could use both Samuel's DLS and the new song, since it will be part of the Improved Tracks patch itself.....

I COULD be able to release everything now, but I'm having problems with applying the fixes I made to "Don't Be Afraid" to the X-ATM092 variation of it. That's practically the only thing that's stopping me.

One more Important thing.....The Original DLS....by default, it's set as "Read-Only" in its attribute settings, so if you don't change it, the patcher won't patch it. Now, as far as I can tell, a failure to patch it won't corrupt it, but I need to find a way to automate the removal of that attribute.....maybe a batch file would work?

Aaron · « **Reply #23 on:** 2002-04-19 02:20:00 »

Yeah a batch would work wonderfully.

attrib -r ff8.dls or whatever the command is, and then execute your patch.

Goku7 · « **Reply #24 on:** 2002-04-19 02:41:00 »

Actually, I think I'd need to find the file first. So, I'm thinkin':

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dir FF8.dls attrib -r
update.exe

That's really hacked DOS commands. I think I'm missing about fifteen different steps.

But, I'm not sure about the "dir" command syntax. I need to find a way to have it search the hard drive for the file, then remove the attribute. That way, even the computer illiterate could get it done. But, there's still a paradox there, would they know enough to run the batch file instead of the .exe directly? :naughty: