Author Topic: YAMST: Chrome overtakes Firefox in Britain; Win7 about to overtake XP in Japan (Read 16308 times)

Kudistos Megistos · « **on:** 2011-07-09 15:24:02 »

Yet Another Market Share Thread!

According to statcounter (which, I'll grant, might be liable to over-representing recent browsing trends), unhackable Chrome has overtaken the cumbersome Firefox in the UK, with a whopping 0.04% lead. A great victory for people who don't like their browsers crashing every 5 minutes and using 12TB of RAM just to browse the qhimm forums! I'm using Chromium, so I'm not sure whether my internet use is counted towards Chrome. If it is, I'm probably single-handedly responsible for this.

Also interesting is the fact that Windows 7 is likely to overtake XP in Japan within the next month or so. Japan is famously fast in adopting certain kinds of technology, but famously slow when it comes to desktop PCs. Internet Explorer's market share might also drop below 50% over there quite soon. Seriously, what is it with Asian countries? Are they stuck in the early 2000s when it comes to computers? Do they hate installing anything? Do they think that the official Microsoft default software must be the best? Does IE's crappiness appeal to their sense of bad web design and hatred of people with epilepsy? At least Japan isn't as bad as Korea, where the government basically enforced IE until recently because of (wait for this; you'll laugh)

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netmarketshare tells a much sadder story of IE and XP having over 50% global market share and IE6 still being used by 10% of the world. I'll pretend that statcounter is more reliable, because I'd have to cry if nms was.

Mako · « **Reply #1 on:** 2011-07-09 17:23:46 »

Yes, I have noticed a HUGE increase in chrome users.... Thing that astounds me is how fast google took over. @_@ And how fast FireFox became known as the buggy browser.

Bosola · « **Reply #2 on:** 2011-07-09 21:03:30 »

Quote from: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-07-09 15:24:02

Yet Another Market Share Thread!

According to statcounter (which, I'll grant, might be liable to over-representing recent browsing trends), unhackable Chrome has overtaken the cumbersome Firefox in the UK, with a whopping 0.04% lead. A great victory for people who don't like their browsers crashing every 5 minutes and using 12TB of RAM just to browse the qhimm forums!

Or browsers which eat up valuable vertical screen estate!

For me, Chrome isn't the better choice because it's more stable, or less prone to memory leaks. It's better because the UI is clean, efficient, stays out of my way and keeps focus on the real reason I'm using it - the browser content.

Mako · « **Reply #3 on:** 2011-07-09 21:16:39 »

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the browser content.

Bosola quit spewing your radical ideals! We both know it's all about large icons and huge UI's.

Kudistos Megistos · « **Reply #4 on:** 2011-07-09 21:28:19 »

Quote from: Bosola on 2011-07-09 21:03:30

Or browsers which eat up valuable vertical screen estate!

For me, Chrome isn't the better choice because it's more stable, or less prone to memory leaks. It's better because the UI is clean, efficient, stays out of my way and keeps focus on the real reason I'm using it - the browser content.

I completely forgot about that!

I'm a vertical screen estate Nazi, so that was actually one of the things that drew me to Chromium. Firefox actually has an extension that gives you more screen estate, but it's still pretty ugly.

I hate to think what IE10 will look like; Microsoft seems intent on using XBOX HUEG RIBBONS EVERYWHERE in Windows 8. There'll probably be about 30 vertical pixels left. In fact, I'm surprised that I haven't yet made a thread complaining about how retarded Win8 looks...

Someone should really tell MS that using the same UI for desktops and mobiles is not a good idea. And someone should remind them that whilst vertical screen estate isn't much of an issue for mobile devices, since they're usually used in portrait mode, it's a big issue for 1920x1080 desktop monitors.

Their tradition of following a good OS with a shitty one seems to be continuing.

Quote from: Mako on 2011-07-09 21:16:39

We both know it's all about large icons and huge UI's.

MS employee detected!

Quote from: Mako on 2011-07-09 17:23:46

Yes, I have noticed a HUGE increase in chrome users.... Thing that astounds me is how fast google took over. @_@ And how fast FireFox became known as the buggy browser.

I'm not surprised by either. Chrome is actually quite good, which appeals to nerds, and is sufficiently well-advertised for normal people to download it. There are Chrome ads everywhere.

Firefox is now known as the buggy browser because it's so...buggy. Mozilla seem to be losing their touch.

Covarr · « **Reply #5 on:** 2011-07-09 21:51:54 »

Quote from: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-07-09 21:28:19

Firefox is now known as the buggy browser because it's so...buggy. Mozilla seem to be losing their touch.

If I wanted a slow, unstable browser, I'd just use IE since it came with Windows. Then again, I've actually had Firefox crash on me MORE than IE ever since FF4 came out.

Mako · « **Reply #6 on:** 2011-07-09 22:48:02 »

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MS employee detected!

OH noes ya caught me

I must inform the hive before I am captured!

Landarma · « **Reply #7 on:** 2011-07-10 04:23:36 »

Quote from: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-07-09 15:24:02

Also interesting is the fact that Windows 7 is likely to overtake XP in Japan within the next month or so.

It reminds me something off-topic: 2009 Windows 7 Demonstration at Japan. I don't know why(7!).

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Does IE's crappiness appeal to their sense of bad web design and hatred of people with epilepsy? At least Japan isn't as bad as Korea, where the government basically enforced IE until recently because of (wait for this; you'll laugh)
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Yay for this. Thanks for that, we are forced to install various unwanted 'security modules' that never help us(rather such ActiveX components can cause various problems on your computer).

DarkFang · « **Reply #8 on:** 2011-07-10 04:27:08 »

I still use FireFox, because they have an awesome ad block add-on.

Chrome is much faster. Plus they have the AdBlock Plus extension for Chrome as well.

Kudistos Megistos · « **Reply #9 on:** 2011-07-10 06:49:20 »

Quote from: Landarma on 2011-07-10 04:23:36

It reminds me something off-topic: 2009 Windows 7 Demonstration at Japan. I don't know why(7!).

I remember that!

MS really tried to market it properly over there and made a big deal of the touch features. They even had an official OS-tan (at least she was cute when she failed).

It didn't really work.

Marc · « **Reply #10 on:** 2011-07-10 13:34:36 »

I use IE9 and it works very well.

I stopped seeing a need to install firefox after ie8 came out as I don't use the extensions anyway. The only ads I disable are hover-links and I can do that from within IE by blocking the proper domains. Gotta support free websites by loading the ads.

And IE9 has lots of vertical real estate. I haven't used chrome since I tested version 1 but the vertical UI is actually very similar to what I remember space-wise.

idl12 · « **Reply #11 on:** 2011-07-10 19:57:42 »

Quote from: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-07-10 06:49:20

I remember that!

They even had an official OS-tan (at least she was cute when she failed).

It didn't really work.

I suddenly have a strong urge to support windows 7 now.

DarkFang · « **Reply #12 on:** 2011-07-11 01:16:16 »

Okay I take it back. I don't care for Chrome at all. I had 10 Chrome.exe processes in my task manager. When the memory usage is added together, it equals to about the same, if not more than Firefox ever was. It doesn't have the same feel as Firefox did either. There's no doubt it's the fastest web browser available, but it's just not for me.

Prince Lex · « **Reply #13 on:** 2011-07-11 01:51:15 »

This thread has made me want to download Chrome. But I'm so used to Firefox.... lately it's been using like 180k of memory, my laptop starts to sound like it's having a heart attack.

DarkFang · « **Reply #14 on:** 2011-07-11 02:28:21 »

Okay so maybe Firefox does take more memory than Chrome, but when you have 8GB of ram like me, you can't really notice a difference.

Kudistos Megistos · « **Reply #15 on:** 2011-07-11 02:42:31 »

Quote from: DarkFang on 2011-07-11 01:16:16

Okay I take it back. I don't care for Chrome at all. I had 10 Chrome.exe processes in my task manager.

There's a good reason for that.

If Firefox crashes or hangs, you're stuck.

If Chrome does it, only that one tab has a problem. The other tabs are safe.

Quote from: DarkFang on 2011-07-11 02:28:21

Okay so maybe Firefox does take more memory than Chrome, but when you have 8GB of ram like me, you can't really notice a difference.

Good lord! What on earth are you doing with all that RAM? Running Win7 in a VM?

Quote from: Prince Lex on 2011-07-11 01:51:15

This thread has made me want to download Chrome.

You should! If you spend some time getting used to it, you'll wonder what you ever saw in Firefox.

EDIT:

One of the many interesting things you can do with statcounter is show daily stats; this lets one see which broswers and OSs are being forced on people at work, since one can see the big rises and falls in market share at the weekend.

As expected, XP and IE do badly at weekends, whereas Win7 and Chrome do well (Firefox's market share doesn't change as much, which suggests that it is used by some businesses, but Chrome isn't).

It would seem that Windows 7 has already overtaken XP in Japan when it comes to home use (you may need to F5 this page).

The US shows an even bigger gap between home and work use.

Jaitsu · « **Reply #16 on:** 2011-07-11 07:08:12 »

i personally love firefox, though i'm thinking of switching back to an older version, FF 4 is just completely filled with bugs, falls attempts to update, etc.

i have a pretty strong love for the addons though, especially the addon called "Stylish"

but hey, i got chrome on my laptop too when i wanna do some video watchin.

DarkFang · « **Reply #17 on:** 2011-07-12 06:15:47 »

Chrome also has an extension called Stylish.

sithlord48 · « **Reply #18 on:** 2011-07-12 19:44:35 »

rekonq FTW!

DLPB_ · « **Reply #19 on:** 2011-07-13 23:41:05 »

I havent had a single problem with fox...

yarLson · « **Reply #20 on:** 2011-07-14 00:10:35 »

Quote from: DLPB on 2011-07-13 23:41:05

I havent had a single problem with fox...

I never have either, and I love my add-ons

Kudistos Megistos · « **Reply #21 on:** 2011-07-14 06:42:21 »

Quote from: sithlord48 on 2011-07-12 19:44:35

rekonq FTW!

Wait, do people actually use those Konqueror browsers?

I thought they just came preinstalled on most distros because of something to do with FOSSfaggotry.

sithlord48 · « **Reply #22 on:** 2011-07-14 11:58:13 »

if your using chrome you are..... rekonq and chrome share a large code base.