Breaking a CPU

[dgp9999]

My brand new GlobalWIN CAKII-38 came through the post yesterday, fitted it in. Turned me computer on, loaded Windows 98 after fully loading windows, I opened the start menu, all the text was square blocks. After closing the menu, BSOD. tried to empty recycle bin, lost the mouse cursor. Restarted. Tried to load Windows, "your disk may have bad sectors", skiped that, Windows just came up with endless BSODs. loaded up safe mode, emptied recycle bin, BSOD. Safe mode was running very very slowly. Click, 10 seconds later it done the action. After a while, the BSODs came back too.

Did my processor get crushed or damaged during installation of my processor? The night before it was working fine.

-Dan

[mirex]

Hmm. Check if you did plugged cooler's power cord.

[dgp9999]

Ah! Hmmm, interesting. The fan comes with a CPU fan thing for the pin on the mobo and a power cable which goes onto the power supply. I plugged in both. there was a warning on the box for the FOP model to not use the pin cable. Should I try without one cord in? I don't want to cripple my harddisk in the mean time though.

-Dan

[Aaron]

If it says don't plug the pin cable, then don't plug it in.

Hard to crush a CPU during the installation process (but its easy to bend a pin on it or something... which could cause problems if its not connected right.. but this shouldn't happen after it's in the socket).

It might also be a good idea to run a check on your hard disk for bad sectors.

[dgp9999]

I dont have the FOP model, I have the CAKII model. I don't think my harddisk has bad sectors, maybe it was just windows being stupid. It only appeared after the time I ran Windows for the first time aftre installing the CPU

[Aaron]

Is this a fresh install of Windows?  Odd for stuff to screw up like this after a fresh install.

...Possibilities?

Bad HD sectors (really should check, just in case).
Bad CPU, bad memory, bad board.  <- However, usually Windows will not finish installing if these are bad... but you never know.

Heh heh.

[Edit]
Never seen a fan that used two power cords, might be a good idea to try it with just one.

[dgp9999]

No, All I installed was a new heatsink and fan. Just the normal Windwos I've been using for ages. I haven't had any problems with disk sectors in a while. When I get home, I'll take off the mobo fan connector then try it. I'll keep the disk sector checker going while heating up the wax stuff that came with the heatsink. Thanks for your help!

-Dan

P.S. Anyone have any tips for beting Dark Valefor without Attack Reels, Celestial Weapons, Ultima, Holy, Break Damage Barrier, and Break HP Barrier? I think I should get myself some doors to tomorrow don't ya think?

[Aaron]

Oh one last thing.  There is some kind of heatsink compound between the CPU and heatsink, right?  (Usually, some comes on the bottom of the heatsink as a little square, but if there wasn't any, you should probably add some.)

[dgp9999]

Yeah, there was a little blue square on the bottom of the new one.

[J*** H*******]

Message.

[Aaron]

Yeah, the thermal compound is usually pink or white from my experience.  Not that it couldn't be blue...  Check to make sure its not covered with anything?

Tell that to all the people who have crushed the core from their TB/XP/Duron while installing heatsink.  Edges on that core are quite brittle, and very vulnerable if you manage to tilt the heatsink so that the load is directed to them.

Well... you're right.  Although I've installed many a Thunderbird / Athlon XP (hey, it's my job) and I've never had a problem doing it, I guess I see how you could break the processor by tilting the heatsink wrong.

Be careful and you'll have nothing to worry about.

[dgp9999]

I put my old Evercool HSF back in. No problems so far, just a little wearing in again that's all. I'm running at 46oC right now when online, I usually get around 50oC. Oh well, I try not to trust those things.
I believe I didn't have enough power in my PSU to run the other 8000RPM HSF. I only have a 300W Macron PSU. I should have got a 400W. I do have a lot of power sucky things in my case too.
I have getting a high pitch wine coming from my case though. I dunno what it is yet. Anyone know?

-Dan

[The Skillster]

flipping hell 8000rpm? thats abit xtreme, i got an akasa silver mountain and thats about 7000 and its load enuff to keep u awake

[Aaron]

I have getting a high pitch wine coming from my case though. I dunno what it is yet. Anyone know?

When I have sounds coming from my case, I unplug stuff until I figure out what it is.  Usually a fan.

I believe I didn't have enough power in my PSU to run the other 8000RPM HSF. I only have a 300W Macron PSU. I should have got a 400W.

I believe I hold the low power supply for many devices record, as far as I know.  I have a 235 W powering two decent fans, 3 hard drives, two CD-ROMs, a floppy and a ZIP drive (which don't really count because they are idle 99% of the time) and not to mention the board and vid card and whatever else is in there.
Question: Am I in dire need of a new power supply?  This 235 W has worked fine for 5 years (lol), but I'm about to add a fourth hard drive and a fancier vid card so I dunno how much more it can take.  Hasn't shown any signs of not being enough yet, though.

[ficedula]

I'd advise so. My old 230W supply ran looots of devices for a while with no problems - but to be futureproof (new processors draw more and more power...) you might as well; added to which it's always best to have spare capacity (ie. don't run the PSU right up to its limit, would be a good idea )

You don't absolutely NEED one - but given how cheap they are...

[Aaron]

Yeah.

Problem is, mine has two fans (one facing outside like most all power supplies, and one facing down into the comp).  The downward facing fan is the only fan cooling my comp, besides the CPU and GPU fans (and a fan way up at the front).  I'd like to find another power supply with a bottom fan to make sure my comp stays cool enough... seen any?
Probably not hard to find, but oh well.

[Edit] Nm, I found a cool 400W PSU for about $42.

[dgp9999]

My next PSU will have to be:
1. 400W+
2. Have two fans
3. It needs to be an expelling psu, not an intake like my current one.

Aaron: Is yours an intake?

-Dan

[Aaron]

Yeah.  I think so anyway.  Will check to be sure later...

[dgp9999]

Skillster: You should hear my case with all 6 YSTech case fans turned, like driving past Heathrow. Amazingly, I did actually notice an increase in sound levels, the case fans are more of a low gust, where the GlobalWIN is a high pitch stream. Makes a good little ditty It gets annoying when trying to watch a DVD in 5-channel Dolby Digital, gotta crank it up load and that annoys other people. Canne win can ya?

-Dan