Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.999992) (Read 8278077 times)

cjmstate · « **Reply #7200 on:** 2018-08-25 21:34:54 »

Hola - where do you get the Max Ray? "Where is the thing" says it's a steal from King Behemoth but he only gives Pilebunkers.

UpRisen · « **Reply #7201 on:** 2018-08-25 22:34:26 »

Quote from: cjmstate on 2018-08-23 02:35:29

Exe is unlocked but still only 1-3 sources on rank up. Any other ideas?

I think you were being misunderstood. In NT with the custom exe sources give you 5 stats per source. So you only get 1-3 sources but 5-15 stats. looking at your stats before and after using them will confirm this.

Quote from: cjmstate on 2018-08-25 21:34:54

Hola - where do you get the Max Ray? "Where is the thing" says it's a steal from King Behemoth but he only gives Pilebunkers.

my pc is OOC currently so i cant check the scene, but if i recall correctly is a rare drop/steal. Equip theives gloves to increase your chances. If I recall correctly the enemies with weapons have a common steal/ morph weapon, and a rare steal/drop weapon. I do know that you can get both in 1 encounter though.

cjmstate · « **Reply #7202 on:** 2018-08-26 00:00:52 »

Quote from: UpRisen on 2018-08-25 22:34:26

I think you were being misunderstood. In NT with the custom exe sources give you 5 stats per source. So you only get 1-3 sources but 5-15 stats. looking at your stats before and after using them will confirm this.

my pc is OOC currently so i cant check the scene, but if i recall correctly is a rare drop/steal. Equip theives gloves to increase your chances. If I recall correctly the enemies with weapons have a common steal/ morph weapon, and a rare steal/drop weapon. I do know that you can get both in 1 encounter though.

That does seem to work for most. The Behemoth however seems to drop the Pilebunker in steal and morph. No idea where the Max Ray is though. Also, thank you for confirming the sources. Totally threw me off...

dicksdequina · « **Reply #7203 on:** 2018-08-26 10:39:59 »

Yet another question basing on the Readme in the Documentation : First time through Gold Saucer. Aside from dating Aerith, is there another way to get Umbrella? I tried scoring 5000 points in the Speed Square but it didn't give me anything. I'm favoring Tifa in my playthrough and that's why I'm concerned that if the date event gives me Tifa then I might miss that weapon. Do I need to score higher than 5000 points in the Speed Square?

Sega Chief · « **Reply #7204 on:** 2018-08-26 13:35:54 »

Quote from: cjmstate on 2018-08-25 21:34:54

Hola - where do you get the Max Ray? "Where is the thing" says it's a steal from King Behemoth but he only gives Pilebunkers.

Armored Golem should have it.

Quote from: dicksdequina on 2018-08-26 10:39:59

Yet another question basing on the Readme in the Documentation : First time through Gold Saucer. Aside from dating Aerith, is there another way to get Umbrella? I tried scoring 5000 points in the Speed Square but it didn't give me anything. I'm favoring Tifa in my playthrough and that's why I'm concerned that if the date event gives me Tifa then I might miss that weapon. Do I need to score higher than 5000 points in the Speed Square?

5k+ gets the umbrella but only before you get the Highwind, after that it's Flayer. The minigame is tricky on PC due to the reticle being twitchy. You could try doing the blimp propeller exploit to get the points needed: https://youtu.be/OyYvRuUQhS8

cjmstate · « **Reply #7205 on:** 2018-08-26 15:48:21 »

Quote from: Sega Chief on 2018-08-26 13:35:54

Armored Golem should have it.

So far it has only been a pile bunker through both steal / morph of the Armored Golem. Is it an either / or for Max Ray then? I noticed the Enemy Items.xlsx even only lists Pile Bunker for the Armored Golem.

EmperorSteele · « **Reply #7206 on:** 2018-08-26 22:54:38 »

Quote from: UpRisen on 2018-08-25 22:34:26

my pc is OOC currently so i cant check the scene, but if i recall correctly is a rare drop/steal. Equip theives gloves to increase your chances. If I recall correctly the enemies with weapons have a common steal/ morph weapon, and a rare steal/drop weapon. I do know that you can get both in 1 encounter though.

Thieve's gloves? I've never seen that. Where/when does one acquire this item? (It if's after the Huge/Mega Materia quest, just say as much so I don't get too spoiled =) )

Sega Chief · « **Reply #7207 on:** 2018-08-27 00:30:48 »

Quote from: cjmstate on 2018-08-26 15:48:21

So far it has only been a pile bunker through both steal / morph of the Armored Golem. Is it an either / or for Max Ray then? I noticed the Enemy Items.xlsx even only lists Pile Bunker for the Armored Golem.

Half the weapons are acquired through a drop, which can only be gotten if no Steal is made (not sure about Morph, but I think this also locks off the Drop). Armored Golem can drop Max Ray, carries Pilebunker as a Steal/Morph so just kill them and avoid stealing to have a chance at getting it.

Quote from: EmperorSteele on 2018-08-26 22:54:38

Thieve's gloves? I've never seen that. Where/when does one acquire this item? (It if's after the Huge/Mega Materia quest, just say as much so I don't get too spoiled =) )

Sneak Glove is obtained from same place as default game, it's sold by the NPC who sells you batteries in Wall Market on Disc 1. It costs a fair bit, price was also unchanged; about 129k.

kamek523 · « **Reply #7208 on:** 2018-08-27 01:02:41 »

Any luck finding where to get enemy skill Alpha/Transfusion?

Sega Chief · « **Reply #7209 on:** 2018-08-27 03:58:00 »

It was on Death Dealer as a manipulate command which he's immune to. I'll sort something out soon as a hotfix patch.

blokx · « **Reply #7210 on:** 2018-08-27 07:42:46 »

Just started a new game. Was escaping the reactor, 10 minute clock on the screen.

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Is that supposed to happen? If so, how is anyone meant to handle that situation?

UpRisen · « **Reply #7211 on:** 2018-08-27 14:32:53 »

Quote from: blokx on 2018-08-27 07:42:46

Just started a new game. Was escaping the reactor, 10 minute clock on the screen.
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I see Biggs knocked out so I go help him up. He runs up the stairs, stop half way up, tells me to be careful. Then I get into a fight with Zangan? Who hits for like 5k, 1-shotting. I couldn't escape. And if I just defended, he'd say "....".
Is that supposed to happen? If so, how is anyone meant to handle that situation?

This is most likely a conflict with the Jessie mod. Turn that off and start a new game so that jessie wont be in your party anymore.

blokx · « **Reply #7212 on:** 2018-08-28 08:05:22 »

Quote from: UpRisen on 2018-08-27 14:32:53

This is most likely a conflict with the Jessie mod. Turn that off and start a new game so that jessie wont be in your party anymore.

Yup, that was it. Thanks! I realize now, that one mod was causing quite a few issues. The 10 minute timer wasn't starting at the correct time, certain groups of enemies weren't coming out when they should. All that just because I thought it would be neat to have Jessie in my party for the first 20 minutes of the game, haha.

Any idea of there are other mods packaged with 7H that just don't work? I don't have any of the "Story & Difficutly" mods enabled since that seemed like an obvious conflict. I do have "Always Run" and "Increase Sense Limit" enabled in the "Tweaks and Cheats" portion, but I also have that lower in the list than New Threat.

UpRisen · « **Reply #7213 on:** 2018-08-28 13:55:36 »

Those mods will work fine with NT. the only ones to avoid are jessie mod, Gameplay and difficulty. and Tifa/caitsith slot cheats, and the Beacause option of the Reunion. Menu overhaul is fine as long as you use the ff7_bc.exe included with the NT download.

blokx · « **Reply #7214 on:** 2018-08-28 18:23:15 »

Quote from: UpRisen on 2018-08-28 13:55:36

Those mods will work fine with NT. the only ones to avoid are jessie mod, Gameplay and difficulty. and Tifa/caitsith slot cheats, and the Beacause option of the Reunion. Menu overhaul is fine as long as you use the ff7_bc.exe included with the NT download.

Perfect. I'm using the menu overhaul, but not the Beacause translations. I assumed that wouldn't work since SegaChief also changed up the text a bit. Just didn't realize about the Jessie mod.

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Thanks a lot for the help, UpRisen!

cjmstate · « **Reply #7215 on:** 2018-09-01 17:04:49 »

Hello - any timing on potential adjustments to weapon damage formulas? I'm finding the Conformer is just so OP right now and then a lot of other ultimate weapons are junk. Also, I noticed that attack damage seems to drop quite a bit in ultimates such as Omnislash. Cloud at lvl 99 normally hits around 2 - 5K and then his omnislash hits are 1k.

SerathDarklands · « **Reply #7216 on:** 2018-09-01 18:56:28 »

Hey, I'm playing through the mod again, and I just got the Mega-All materia, and fought the Kaktuar (I think that's what it's called, the silver Cactuar with the retro 3D glasses).

I'm just wondering, the various key items you get for doing side quests and such - the 7777 Needles, the Pulse Ammo, the Dark Matter, the X-ATM Core, the Oversoul Shards, and so on - do they actually do anything Or do they just sit in your inventory to look pretty?

Sega Chief · « **Reply #7217 on:** 2018-09-01 22:31:51 »

Quote from: cjmstate on 2018-09-01 17:04:49

Hello - any timing on potential adjustments to weapon damage formulas? I'm finding the Conformer is just so OP right now and then a lot of other ultimate weapons are junk. Also, I noticed that attack damage seems to drop quite a bit in ultimates such as Omnislash. Cloud at lvl 99 normally hits around 2 - 5K and then his omnislash hits are 1k.

Thanks to karifean, I have notes on where those formulas are in the exe so an adjustment will likely be made to them in the future.

Quote from: SerathDarklands on 2018-09-01 18:56:28

Hey, I'm playing through the mod again, and I just got the Mega-All materia, and fought the Kaktuar (I think that's what it's called, the silver Cactuar with the retro 3D glasses).

I'm just wondering, the various key items you get for doing side quests and such - the 7777 Needles, the Pulse Ammo, the Dark Matter, the X-ATM Core, the Oversoul Shards, and so on - do they actually do anything Or do they just sit in your inventory to look pretty?

You use them to get ultimate weapons, usually it'll be 2 of the character's end-game weapons + one of those new items (so for Cloud it'd be 1x Ragnarok, 1x Heaven's Cloud, and 1x Zenogias Feather). Check in with the dude in the blue house on the world map near Gongaga, where you'd ordinarily trade in Mythril.

Zeikier · « **Reply #7218 on:** 2018-09-02 17:07:36 »

Heyo, I noticed I was using an outdated version of this mod from 2017 so I got the 2018 version. For some reason the installer isn't changing the files.

It's giving me the "The destination directory doesn't contain any files to update." I've moved the data file to the desktop, or installing the previous version, but I'm not sure what will let it update any of the files unless there's a step I'm missing.

Sega Chief · « **Reply #7219 on:** 2018-09-02 20:21:19 »

Quote from: Zeikier on 2018-09-02 17:07:36

Heyo, I noticed I was using an outdated version of this mod from 2017 so I got the 2018 version. For some reason the installer isn't changing the files.

It's giving me the "The destination directory doesn't contain any files to update." I've moved the data file to the desktop, or installing the previous version, but I'm not sure what will let it update any of the files unless there's a step I'm missing.

The installation target was changed for the new version so it could patch the game's executable. Instead of the data folder, aim it at the FF7 folder itself above it.

SerathDarklands · « **Reply #7220 on:** 2018-09-02 22:18:04 »

Another question:

I just killed the Curator on my return to Midgar. The chest behind it contained "Nothing!"

Did I do something wrong? Or is that normal?

Sega Chief · « **Reply #7221 on:** 2018-09-03 01:14:39 »

Quote from: SerathDarklands on 2018-09-02 22:18:04

Another question:

I just killed the Curator on my return to Midgar. The chest behind it contained "Nothing!"

Did I do something wrong? Or is that normal?

Other than entering the diorama room outside of the stated normal visiting hours, you didn't do anything wrong.

SerathDarklands · « **Reply #7222 on:** 2018-09-03 14:46:07 »

Quote from: Sega Chief on 2018-09-03 01:14:39

Other than entering the diorama room outside of the stated normal visiting hours, you didn't do anything wrong.

So if I enter/beat the Curator between its stated hours, there will be something in the chest?

cjmstate · « **Reply #7223 on:** 2018-09-03 21:12:51 »

Sega - got a question for you on end game as I'm wondering if my mod is working correctly.

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Sega Chief · « **Reply #7224 on:** 2018-09-03 23:52:47 »

Quote from: SerathDarklands on 2018-09-03 14:46:07

So if I enter/beat the Curator between its stated hours, there will be something in the chest?

No, no; I was just joking with you. It's an optional fight purely for the challenge of it.

Quote from: cjmstate on 2018-09-03 21:12:51

Sega - got a question for you on end game as I'm wondering if my mod is working correctly.

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Final fights against jenova / sephiroth just seem way too easy. Is there supposed to be a jenova alongside Sephiroth at the very end 1:1? I'm only seeing Sephiroth.

Maybe a balancing thing, people have said in the past that the Safer fight wasn't as hard as it could be. As for the final fight, the trigger for that was changed to check if

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. If not, then it should be the standard scripted 1v1. If yes, then the other one is used. I'm still not 100% settled on how to handle the ending.