Am I reading this wrong or...

[Smurgen]

Is openGl SOOO much better than D3d



Blizzard Video Tester 1.0.7 Jun 10 2002
Copyright (C) 2002 Blizzard Entertainment. All rights reserved.

22Nov2002 19:38
Windows 98 SE (Windows Platform 1 Version 4.10  A  Build 67766446)
DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0901)
OpenGL ATI Technologies Inc. Radeon 8500 DDR x86/SSE 1.3.3413 Win9x Re
Pentium III (GenuineIntel Version 0673 Brand 0) 598 Mhz
511 MB RAM
Video 1 Vendor 0x1002 Device 0x514c RADEON 8500 / RADEON 8500LE
Audio 1 DirectSound (SB Live! Wave Out [1C00])
Audio 2 Game Compatible Device (emulated)
Audio 3 Voice Modem Wave #00 Line (emulated)

Direct3D 640x480 16 bpp 0 Hz 106 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 800x600 16 bpp 0 Hz 120 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1024x768 16 bpp 0 Hz 100 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1152x864 16 bpp 0 Hz 75 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1280x1024 16 bpp 0 Hz 75 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1600x1200 16 bpp 0 Hz 60 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 640x480 32 bpp 0 Hz 120 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 800x600 32 bpp 0 Hz 120 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1024x768 32 bpp 0 Hz 100 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1152x864 32 bpp 0 Hz 75 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1280x1024 32 bpp 0 Hz 75 BogoFps: OK
Direct3D 1600x1200 32 bpp 0 Hz 60 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 640x480 16 bpp 0 Hz 1153 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 800x600 16 bpp 0 Hz 1120 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1024x768 16 bpp 0 Hz 1161 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1152x864 16 bpp 0 Hz 1116 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1280x1024 16 bpp 0 Hz 1037 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1600x1200 16 bpp 0 Hz 709 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 640x480 32 bpp 0 Hz 1151 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 800x600 32 bpp 0 Hz 1127 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1024x768 32 bpp 0 Hz 1013 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1152x864 32 bpp 0 Hz 803 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1280x1024 32 bpp 0 Hz 621 BogoFps: OK
OpenGL 1600x1200 32 bpp 0 Hz 439 BogoFps: OK

[KojiroTakenashi]

The results don't count because you're using a screwy ATI card.

[Smurgen]

Screwy? No
Sexy? Oh yes!

[KojiroTakenashi]

Me hate stupid ATI drivers ATI drivers bad.
...Thier hardware, sadly, is very good *sigh*

[Smurgen]

I dunno...i don't have a problem with Catalyst 2.4....unless there's one that i don't know about?

[KojiroTakenashi]

It seems to me that the drivers actually hold the hardware back...It's not only bug problems, it's the lack of optimization.

[Smurgen]

ok so Nvidia makes crappy boards with great drivers
ATI makes awesome boards with crappy drivers

Who makes the good boards and the good drivers?

[KojiroTakenashi]

nVidia makes decent to very good boards with good drivers.
ATI does the same, with crappy drivers.
And Matrox is the space between.
...That is, until the GeFX comes out.

[Smurgen]

almost makes me wanna buy a console...
anyone have a spare Atari 2600? ^_^

[KojiroTakenashi]

Amen.

Anyway, to answer your main question, DX and OpenGL aren't that far apart in speed. It's mostly a driver issue, however some architectures seem to run a bit better on OpenGL.

[ficedula]

Well, ATI used to make crap drivers ... but the latest Catalyst driver sets have been fine. No bugs at all, AFAIK ... and, of course, the best card out now is a Radeon, so NVidia's not looking as dominant as they used to  We'll have to actually see the GeFX on sale before making any judgements about it...

[Mofokubik]

you people are forgetting about voodoo's
voodoo3 is a great board with great drivers....
too bad 3dfx had to go and die....

(and i think opengl is better, cause its faster)
(at least it is for me, in everything i do)

[Aaron]

Hey, hey, man, you're not reading what I said to you at the bottom of this thread.  Please don't continue to bring back topics that haven't had any posts in them for a while.

[Caddberry]

Well he did have a point.. I am suprised i havent seen Goku7 in here waving a 3dfx Flag..