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Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« on: 2010-05-17 15:44:18 »
I have been working on extracting data from the Final Fantasy XIV dat files.  I have been able to sucessfully extract a couple of maps (which are not the maps that appear in game, but perhaps earlier drafts of them).  I have been able to extract all kinds of sounds/music which are already encoded in OGG format.

Why am I posting here?  In all my weeks of googling, this site has so far been the best match to some of my search terms.  I have not been able to successfully extract any useful images out of the dat files, such as item icons, status icons, spell icons, maps (the actual in-game maps), etc.

What have I found?  Well, here is a list of what I have been calling file headers that I have found:

    * SEDBlyb
    * SEDBveff
    * SEDBRES - looks like they contain "actor" and "actions" and stuff - maybe a "script" for cutscenes?
    * DDS
    * DDS / DXT5 - directx texture compression - contains map tiles which need to be stitched together
    * GTEX - 3d texture files
    * xml - there is some straight xml in some of these files, not sure how they are using it yet though
    * SEDBSSCF (not Ogg) appears to be icons or other images - not sure how to view them as images yet
    * SEDBSSCF / Ogg - these are sound files encoded with in OGG format - foobar audio player will play these files directly if you rename the extension to .ogg - these contain dialog, background noises, the soundtrack, etc..
    * #fileset (found in folder data\27\02\00)
    * MapLayoutResourceData
    * VfxGraphResourceData

The maps I have found so far are split up into many tiles, which I have been able to script and piece back together for a completed image.  Notice there are some headers which begin in "SEDB" which probably stands for something like "Square Enix DataBase", but then a more common header follows like "SSCF".  SSCF is what led me to this site, and while the wiki here does say it contains sounds/music for games like Crisis Core, I believe it also contains the images I am looking for.  When the SSCF dat file does contain audio, it pretty much always is followed by Ogg and is actually playable directly without any extraction/conversion with a player like Foobar.

So, I could use some help.  Anyone who might be able to point me in the right direction would be most helpful.  If someone knows how to read an image out of dat files, that would be even better!  Thanks for reading.. I guess this is pretty "cutting edge" dat mining.  Some people have already done some of dat mining against these dat files, but their findings are quickly removed by Square Enix legal notices to site operators, and I would like to be able to do this on my own.  Thanks again!
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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #1 on: 2010-05-17 18:15:16 »
There's a 14?? Are you sure?? I thought the latest was ff13. :-\

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #2 on: 2010-05-17 18:18:16 »
14 is in alpha/beta testing phase right now.  It is an MMORPG like Final Fantasy XI.

http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #3 on: 2010-05-17 19:01:04 »
Oh.. Another MMORPG?? Well I hardly think many people will help you because this game is still in early stages and that will be hard to crack. Best of Luck though. :)

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #4 on: 2010-05-17 19:03:40 »
um how do u go about signing up as a beta tester, i would like to see if this works w/ wine.

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #5 on: 2010-05-18 03:57:57 »
Some people have already done some of dat mining against these dat files, but their findings are quickly removed by Square Enix legal notices to site operators, and I would like to be able to do this on my own.  Thanks again!

Yeah, I have been following XIV info leaks pretty closely myself, and that is very true.
Yet you still decided to post this on qhimm?
I'm pretty sure the last thing this site wants is more attention from SE, and they are pretty damn quick to kill anything XIV related.
If I were you, I would delete this thread.

But I do wish yo the best of luck in your endeavor, I'm listening to the XIV soundtrack right now, and it is awesome. :)

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #6 on: 2010-05-18 06:31:58 »
Hey...  Did anybody else notice that the music playing on the FF XIV site is just a fancied up version of a part of the Staff Roll from VII?

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #7 on: 2010-05-18 07:50:10 »
That music isn't just from FFVII's staff roll, it can also be heard in FFIV and I'm sure other FF games as well. It'd kinda be like the "Final Fantasy" theme, if it didn't already have that opening thing.

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #8 on: 2010-05-18 12:29:34 »
Yeah, if you listen really careful it's in a bunch of Final Fantasy games. The first time I really realized it was when I played 12 and just thought "wow, this menu screen's music sounds just like FF7...." then search began for the the FFs with variations on the theme haha

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #9 on: 2010-05-18 17:21:11 »
Some people have already done some of dat mining against these dat files, but their findings are quickly removed by Square Enix legal notices to site operators, and I would like to be able to do this on my own.  Thanks again!

Yeah, I have been following XIV info leaks pretty closely myself, and that is very true.
Yet you still decided to post this on qhimm?
I'm pretty sure the last thing this site wants is more attention from SE, and they are pretty damn quick to kill anything XIV related.
If I were you, I would delete this thread.

But I do wish yo the best of luck in your endeavor, I'm listening to the XIV soundtrack right now, and it is awesome. :)

Well, I am not posting any findings.  I am merely posting for some assistance in the theory of extracting data from dat files.  It seems many of the file headers in XIV are the same or similar to other FF titles, so I figured if SE borrows between games, the community should be able to do the same for extracting (and I guess modding).

I assume they are using some kind of compression, which is why you dont just see a "PNG" anywhere in a dat file, although I am not sure how to learn which compression is being used. 

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #10 on: 2010-05-18 17:35:51 »
I wonder if any FFXI tools could help?
I used to have a bunch of tools for looking at FFXI images and models, many years ago.
May be hard to find though, the tools i used were Japanese too.

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Re: Final Fantasy XIV (yes, 14)
« Reply #11 on: 2010-05-18 18:00:16 »
Let's wait for this game to get released first...