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♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« on: 2015-10-10 17:57:06 »
Hello everyone,

Before starting my SOS and since i didn't find a presentation thread, Nice to meet you all ;)
You can call me Ichi, or Hime, whatever you like, i'm fan of FF (
among other things) and ready to try to mod them!

Some note before starting
- I'm using the steam version and i don't want to gameConvert for now.
- Excuse my english, it's not my native language..

My first question is about Tifa's thread: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14469.0
1) I wanted to know if the texture upscale include this battle background?

2) If not, where can i find it? *If this is not censored*
3) Where are localised the background (Not in battle, not in the map, normal background) in the original game, world.lgp?
4) Team Avalanche's field pack have to be used with Aali driver, Obligatory?
5) Tifa's bootleg can patch the game with Team avalanche field for us?
6) There is a difference between Ozmy field pack / Upscale texture of tifa / and Team Avalanche pack? Team avalanche and Omzy is for field, tifa is for Battle + map? correct?
7) I want to extract manually Yuffie, But i'm not sure of my method .... I have downloaded 'JKA yuffie" to see what the file correspond to yuffie in my original battle & char lgp game, but this JKA yuffie folder have a lot of file... All of these files are yuffie? Why when i downloaded APZ cloud, only 1 file was inside "rtac"...
Sooo, If i take all the yuffie file mentionned in JKA FROM my original data, i remove yuffie, correct?
9) Can you tell me if this mod work without GameConvert? http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=15215.0
10) And this one? http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=10980.0

Last) If you can just redirect me in some thread to have moding aspect without using the gameConverter or Aali driver(need gameconvert too), especially a music mod, because this forum is titanic  :'(

Done, for now xD And sorry for the seventh question, if you don't understand i can try to reformule it ^^
Just to say: FF8 is so much perfectly explain, that i already moded everything with a terrific facility .... I will share a video when i'm done with FF7 ;)

Thanks you
For your Help

and

T H A N K S - Y O U qhimm community
For all you done for us  :-*
« Last Edit: 2015-10-21 07:09:26 by Kuro Ichi »

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #1 on: 2015-10-11 11:04:02 »
As a simple rule for steam: If the texture is applied to a 3D mesh, you can replace the texture. If it is not, then you can't. This are the only restriction the rerelease have. This means videos, music and model replaces usally work. Also the game has many different models for a character, which means for you if you want to replace Cloud with a new model you have to patch many files (battle.lgp, char.lgp, world_**.lgp, high**.lgp and chocobo.lgp). And the models have to be converted for these files by the author (APZ has only made models for the battle.lgp).

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #2 on: 2015-10-11 15:32:35 »
I see ....

Soooo, after reading a lot more, the screen i linked is from Avalanche's team, correct? (pls at least just answer at this question)
This are 3d model, who can replace the original 3d model battlef field, right?
But, the release is only at png format, which need Aali...
It's mean, this battlefield are not available because the team didn't converted the file?

And for cloud, this info help me a lot ^^ But, i know there is multiple file to replace, battle.lgp & char.lgp for most of them and high.lgp (bike?) wich are model you can see in other thing like minigame. BUT, i'm trying to extract yuffie for exemple (Only the Battle & Char lgp) How can i know which file are yuffie in all the lgp extracted??
My method was to download a Moded yuffie (Like the JKA one) and see what file compose her. Then, i delete JKA since i don't need it, and i extract every file in battle&Char Of my original steam Data MENTIONNED in the JKA Battle&Char. This will work you think?

IS THERE A SUPER BIG MEGA LIST of what file correpspond inside lgp file?
Like (Coud = rtac + rma+ om + ta / Yuffie= Va + ta + to) or something like that xD

Note: Can i know why some work are in png and some are in lgp (aka TEX file, right?)
Because square enix oblige you? Because the creator want to have some sort of copyright? Because they didn't have the time to do it?

Domo Arigato Kaldarsha-senpaï!!  :-*
And sorry if some of my question are stupid, i'm modding since 1 week ><


« Last Edit: 2015-10-11 15:39:34 by Kuro Ichi »

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #3 on: 2015-10-11 15:39:31 »
To see which files correspond to what character, see the FF7 file reconstruction project by halkun. As for the difference between external files (usable through Aali's driver) and LGP-repacked files, it's mostly a matter of choice and work for both the mod creator and end user.

As for using Aali's driver versus not, I would strongly recommend downgrading your game and applying Aali's driver. You don't need any of the features the Steam version offers, and most of the mods work only on the older version.

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #4 on: 2015-10-11 15:49:13 »
Omg Thanks a lot Vgr-senpaï !!

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it's mostly a matter of choice and work for both the mod creator and end use
Oki doki...  I say that because. The person who bringed me into this site, are offering a download in rar format, this rar have a Data file from FF7, and this data actually use the battlefield i linked... it's mean, that data is illegal, because he converted them without the author approval? Because i really don't want to use something which has not the creator'
approval...

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As for using Aali's driver versus not, I would strongly recommend downgrading your game and applying Aali's driver.
Yes i'm tottaly award about it, but i really want to begin a new game like an average steam user, to begin with ^^

When i finish the game, i will backup my save and going for tifa's 7th Heaven ;)

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #5 on: 2015-10-11 15:56:55 »
What's illegal on these forums is copyrighted content, aka models ripped from another game. If that content is fully fan-made, and was converted to work with a different version without being changed, that is not outright forbidden, but the final word goes to the original mod author.

If you don't want to mod your game right off the box, nobody forces you to, and you can always add mods halfway through if you want :)

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #6 on: 2015-10-11 16:25:35 »
Fantastic  :lol:

I tried to replace all my lgp with this Data so, and everything goes fine ^^
Well, i don't have The beautifull "Background" of team avalanche, Only the "Battlefield", just like the picture.

I don't know if it's because this data doesn't have it (battle.lgp is enormous, but the char.lgp is not that big)? Or because like Kalda say, Impossible to replace 2D in steam? Or because the background can be placed only by PNG? This is my last question promise (i think)   ;)

EDIT: lol, the perfect question IS maybe, where are localized the background? World.lgp?

Thanks a lot senpaï   :-*
« Last Edit: 2015-10-11 16:29:33 by Kuro Ichi »

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #7 on: 2015-10-11 17:28:02 »
They are in the flevel.lgp. But you are not the first one who wants to replace them in the file. It's not possible to replace the files there.
There where attempts to use Tonberry for it, but haven't seen much there in the past.

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Re: ♥ Some question before starting FF7 ♥
« Reply #8 on: 2015-10-21 07:07:58 »
Sorry for my absence..
Thanks a lot for all your response! Closed topic :)