Yeah but you know what I mean: In Final Fantasy VII, after defeating Hojo, Cloud says: "Shinra is destroyed." All high-ranked bosses are dead including Heidegger, Scarlet, Palmer, the Turks who fled, Reeve(who has been captured but is still able to play Cait Sith), Hojo and Rufus who is said be dead after the Diamond Weapon onslaught. They don't actually say: Rufus is dead but its obvious and his return is completely senseless as he has no important role in Advent Children(Why the HOLY SHIT should he have Jenovas remnants?) In my eyes should have died and they should have made someone else carry Jenovas remnants.