[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.99994)

[AhBeng2]

Hi Sega,

I have just completed Type B of version 2.0994 and I have noticed some issues that may need your clarification.

1. I still have Tifa's dialogue at the Da Chao statue during Yuffie's sidequest swapped around with Type A.

2. No change to the EXP/AP awarded by defeating Ruby Weapon. It is ostensibly the same with previous versions.

3. After the battle with the Calamity in Disc 3, I was brought back to the screen where the battle was triggered in the first place. However, without using the ? item the second time, the battle simply restarted and the cycle just continued indefinitely. Also, there was no EXP/AP or item reward for defeating this boss.

Thanks.

[wdx]

No EXP/ Hard Mode reward

you require to play through the full game without switching between the modes, hardmode/no sp.   Regards No EXP reward  its done via a flag, it works fine.(if u did indeed have no exp throughout alongside the other conditions). most likely as the flag is only set once within start of game. if started the mod prior to that version eg 2.0993 there was only a reward for having Type/HardMode/NoSP. No additional reward for no exp, that is a new thing within 2.0994 at that may require the other conditions fufilled. 

another way to look at the never ending battle cycle. is

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 is it really a point of no return....

doubt it was the intended result thou   in versions prior to 2.0993 it was

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 simply end of game

and shown a reward of something along the lines of

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 congrats completed typeb hard mode without using sources

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[Sega Chief]

Hi Sega,

I have just completed Type B of version 2.0994 and I have noticed some issues that may need your clarification.

1. I still have Tifa's dialogue at the Da Chao statue during Yuffie's sidequest swapped around with Type A.

2. No change to the EXP/AP awarded by defeating Ruby Weapon. It is ostensibly the same with previous versions.

3. After the battle with the Calamity in Disc 3, I was brought back to the screen where the battle was triggered in the first place. However, without using the ? item the second time, the battle simply restarted and the cycle just continued indefinitely. Also, there was no EXP/AP or item reward for defeating this boss.

Thanks.

I'll check the dialogue trigger.

I looked at Ruby's rewards in the scene.bin and they're set to 50k exp (slightly more if on hard mode), 50k gil (0gil if on hard mode), and 50k AP. Previously, AP was at 5k or something like that.

wdx told me about the looping problem and I've sorted it out, so that'll be fixed in the next patch (2.0995).

[WarDamnAlto]

Playing Type B of 2.0.994, and for Aerith, the Prism Staff and Aurora Rod say they restore HP and grant Barrier/MBarrier respectively, but the barriers don't seem to be applying.  Is this expected behavior?

[Jimbo13]

Found a bug, not sure if is NT2.0 fault but it seems the likely culprit.

In the Whirlwind maze Location 704 in save editor (if that helps) if you use SP upgrade after the Seph/Jenova battle you get stuck on the save point.   I was able to reproduce it and run back and forth through the save point but if you use SP upgrade it pops you back out on the save point and your stuck.   Turning mods off didn't fix it.

Fixed it and saved my game by changing my location in Chocobo save editor.

[AhBeng2]

I looked at Ruby's rewards in the scene.bin and they're set to 50k exp (slightly more if on hard mode), 50k gil (0gil if on hard mode), and 50k AP. Previously, AP was at 5k or something like that.

Ok thanks. I'm getting 45k exp, 4500 AP and 45k gil from Ruby Weapon; it's weird.

[nirwanda]

I think I might have found a small bug or sequence break thing in mode B... or is this intended?
After you escape sector 7 with Aerith but before getting to her house you can go back to Wall Market and buy an umbrella weapon for Aerith from the battery npc in the weapon shop. (also some npc in the Honeybee entrance mentions Cloud crossdressing even though he doesn't do it in this mode)

This is more of a personal opinion... But, why is 0 gil tied to hard mode? Imo, this only either incentivizes players to grind steals/morphs/drops for cash or to ignore a lot of equipment because they can't afford it, which goes against the fun customization that is so core to the mod.

[thorium]

Hi y'all,

This mod has been really fun so far.  I am wondering about how to unlock the secret end boss without the save editor.  I'm playing though the game normally (Mode B) and about to get sent to Corel Prison.  I haven't found any enemy that drops/steals/morphs the Mute Mask needed to be used on Deathclaw.  Does anyone know where I might have missed it? Or does the Mod let you come back to the prison later after you get it from the Shinra Mansion? 

Many thanks,
thorium. 

[wdx]

Hi y'all,

This mod has been really fun so far.  I am wondering about how to unlock the secret end boss without the save editor.  I'm playing though the game normally (Mode B) and about to get sent to Corel Prison.  I haven't found any enemy that drops/steals/morphs the Mute Mask needed to be used on Deathclaw.  Does anyone know where I might have missed it? Or does the Mod let you come back to the prison later after you get it from the Shinra Mansion? 

Many thanks,
thorium.

would he helpful to use the spoiler tag

anyway your answer to the question:

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 eligor has several drops way back in the traingraveyard thats where to get the mutemask from

note you can not

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 either steal or morrph to get a drop

[thorium]

Hi, thanks for replying and sorry for not using the spoiler tag!  First post here, very new. 

And yeah, took a while but eventually got one.  Thank you again. 

[gunner_1207]

anyone know how to move those 2 soldiers in the chocobo pen on the highwind? , i just morphed a guidebook and traded it for a gold chocobo, but cant ride the thing coz i cant get it on board.

[wdx]

anyone know how to move those 2 soldiers in the chocobo pen on the highwind? , i just morphed a guidebook and traded it for a gold chocobo, but cant ride the thing coz i cant get it on board.

you need to buy a chocobo stable before you can take it. the soldiers do not prevent the chocobo from boarding the highwind.

[gunner_1207]

yeah i realized after i posted lol had a brain fart , thank you for your reply tho

[tfinx]

not sure if i'm overlooking something, but i can't get New Threat to work with Reunion at all. i followed all the instructions up to "Remember to disable the new_translation option however as it is incompatible with NT", but there isn't a setting to change that in the options.ini file that Reunion provided. i'm assuming the Reunion team has changed some things since the install instructions for New Threat have been posted, but maybe i'm just messing something simple up.

i installed the "Reunion R06 Version" of New Threat, changed the custom mod_id to "New_Threat_2.0" in the .ini, and own a legal copy of the game. i think I did everything right up to this point, so any help would be appreciated.

[Sega Chief]

Playing Type B of 2.0.994, and for Aerith, the Prism Staff and Aurora Rod say they restore HP and grant Barrier/MBarrier respectively, but the barriers don't seem to be applying.  Is this expected behavior?

I'll check them, they should apply but I think it's not 100% chance.

Found a bug, not sure if is NT2.0 fault but it seems the likely culprit.

In the Whirlwind maze Location 704 in save editor (if that helps) if you use SP upgrade after the Seph/Jenova battle you get stuck on the save point.   I was able to reproduce it and run back and forth through the save point but if you use SP upgrade it pops you back out on the save point and your stuck.   Turning mods off didn't fix it.

Fixed it and saved my game by changing my location in Chocobo save editor.

It is possible to wiggle your way out of it but I've updated the coordinates so that it's not as janky; this'll be in the next patch.

I think I might have found a small bug or sequence break thing in mode B... or is this intended?
After you escape sector 7 with Aerith but before getting to her house you can go back to Wall Market and buy an umbrella weapon for Aerith from the battery npc in the weapon shop. (also some npc in the Honeybee entrance mentions Cloud crossdressing even though he doesn't do it in this mode)

This is more of a personal opinion... But, why is 0 gil tied to hard mode? Imo, this only either incentivizes players to grind steals/morphs/drops for cash or to ignore a lot of equipment because they can't afford it, which goes against the fun customization that is so core to the mod.

An oversight with the Umbrella, but might leave it as it is; I think that weapon is strong but it shouldn't be game-breakingly strong due to the character being mostly magic focused until you can start upping their stats.

For hard mode the idea was to make gil more scarce and have items/equipment be managed to either use or make gil with; the 0 gil thing has been a bit mixed though so what I'll probably do is separate it out into its own option or drop it from hard mode entirely.

not sure if i'm overlooking something, but i can't get New Threat to work with Reunion at all. i followed all the instructions up to "Remember to disable the new_translation option however as it is incompatible with NT", but there isn't a setting to change that in the options.ini file that Reunion provided. i'm assuming the Reunion team has changed some things since the install instructions for New Threat have been posted, but maybe i'm just messing something simple up.

i installed the "Reunion R06 Version" of New Threat, changed the custom mod_id to "New_Threat_2.0" in the .ini, and own a legal copy of the game. i think I did everything right up to this point, so any help would be appreciated.

There should be a line in the options.ini that reads:

[MAIN]
New_Translation = y

change the y to an n; if this line is missing entirely from the newest version then you may need to check in with the reunion discord to find out how to get custom mods to work.

The other thing to watch for is that the name of the mod folder matches what is written in the options.ini:

[CUSTOM]
Mod_ID = New_Threat_2.0

[gunner_1207]

is the 2x cut materia still a thing in this mod or has it been removed? im at northern crater now and have not come across it yet

[wdx]

is the 2x cut materia still a thing in this mod or has it been removed? im at northern crater now and have not come across it yet

still is a thing, location was changed and the materia itself was changed

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2x cut only not 4x now (that is another materia elsewhere)
sacred cave, part of optional sidequest for yuffie. late game.

reference to the spoiler's spoiler incase needed

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4x cut reward from kalm's traveller - trades

[gunner_1207]

ok thank you i'l keep my eyes open

[JonJon412]

I missed the Comet materia...can I still get it?

[Rumo]

Hey,

thanks for this great mod, I'm having a lot of fun playing one of my all time favorites with a decent difficulty and so much new content! I'm nearing the end (playing Type B hard), but now I have a problem: In the Emerald Weapon fight, the fight always freezes at some point. I think it is right after Emerald Weapon starts a countdown (3). No character does any action, neither mine nor the Weapon, the timer keeps ticking though. I ran into a similar problem with the gargoyles in the North Crater, where I just used the Enemy Away Materia... Any ideas what might cause the problem?

[tfinx]

There should be a line in the options.ini that reads:

[MAIN]
New_Translation = y

change the y to an n; if this line is missing entirely from the newest version then you may need to check in with the reunion discord to find out how to get custom mods to work.

The other thing to watch for is that the name of the mod folder matches what is written in the options.ini:

[CUSTOM]
Mod_ID = New_Threat_2.0

hey, thank you! it seems in the more recent reunion installation, the options.ini folder doesn't have the translation line anymore, and it's just

[MAIN]
Enabled = y
Weapon_mode = 1
Fahrenheit = n
Transparent_Battle_Hud = y

but changing "Enabled" does what "New_Translation" did in the past, and things are working properly now! i'm not sure why i didn't just try changing this value before, but i appreciate your help!

[Sega Chief]

I missed the Comet materia...can I still get it?

As of patch 2.092, Comet can now be obtained if it was missed from the North Crater (think it's in the left-down path).

Hey,

thanks for this great mod, I'm having a lot of fun playing one of my all time favorites with a decent difficulty and so much new content! I'm nearing the end (playing Type B hard), but now I have a problem: In the Emerald Weapon fight, the fight always freezes at some point. I think it is right after Emerald Weapon starts a countdown (3). No character does any action, neither mine nor the Weapon, the timer keeps ticking though. I ran into a similar problem with the gargoyles in the North Crater, where I just used the Enemy Away Materia... Any ideas what might cause the problem?

If all action stops but the battle is still technically going that usually means an attack ID has been referenced in the AI that the enemy has no set animation for. However, it looks like all attacks are accounted for with Emerald and the Gargoyles from what I can see in the AI and animation data (ran a test of them too to check all their attacks/anims and wasn't able to replicate a softlock). Are there any other mods enabled? These two have special behaviour in how they transition between one form and another (gargoyle) and interact with each other as multiple parts (Emerald) so there may be something tripping it up.

[gunner_1207]

was there a reason that aerith is able to use cid's schimitar? . i dont mind it looks cool just wondering

[Rumo]

Are there any other mods enabled? These two have special behaviour in how they transition between one form and another (gargoyle) and interact with each other as multiple parts (Emerald) so there may be something tripping it up.

No, this is the only mod on the steam edition of the game.

[wdx]

was there a reason that aerith is able to use cid's schimitar? . i dont mind it looks cool just wondering

she can use a few of his weapons. likely as very close in shape to her staffs, and to give her some new weapons as only 2 other weapons for her from the

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 point in which you made the choice.